Why are all these concessions being given? There’s something being hidden."Nasrat Javed

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00:00Why are all these restrictions being given?

00:02There is something which is hidden.

00:04I think Mr. Faisal has said a very important thing.

00:08And with an open heart, whether you like it or not.

00:12You will have to concede, you will have to agree

00:15that when it comes to message control,

00:18there is no second to PTI in message control.

00:22Okay, sir.

00:23Okay, sir.

00:24And all the expertise is left to everyone.

00:28Now the question is, how can this be managed so properly

00:32that one person is sitting in a meeting.

00:34What was the purpose of sitting in that meeting

00:36if you have appointed a police chief there

00:39and there is a single community

00:41of which the central police chief is technically sitting.

00:45They say they were appointed on the special request of Mr. Gandapur.

00:48No, sir, this is not how it works.

00:50It happens.

00:51This was not just Mr. Gandapur's request.

00:53He had made a request somewhere else.

00:55He was not told to go to a particular office in Islamabad

00:59and then his way was made there.

01:01Request?

01:02Did he make a request in the office of Islamabad or Pindi?

01:06No, he met in the office of Rawalpindi.

01:09Mr. Gauhar Khan had made a request.

01:11He was told that if you need anything like this,

01:15then you should contact a particular office in Islamabad

01:18and maybe you will be able to meet.

01:20Okay.

01:22But I am saying that if you have a relationship with Imran,

01:28then at this time your heart is convinced that

01:32whether anyone likes it or not,

01:34but as a humble student of politics,

01:37he saw that our leader was shouting,

01:39he said that if you want to talk, then you have to be an army chief.

01:42So he opened his mouth.

01:43May Allah bless you.

01:45So, in this, I understand carefully

01:49that if you talk about the propaganda front,

01:53its repercussions…

01:54Leave the propaganda.

01:55In your opinion, was this a complete non-event?

01:59I am saying no.

02:00Why are you so confident that even if they come,

02:04you are not letting their picture run,

02:07then you are also giving them time.

02:09Exactly.

02:10You are giving them 30 minutes, 45 minutes,

02:1310 minutes standing.

02:14You don't even tell them to sit.

02:16I accept everything.

02:18Then why are all these policies being given?

02:20There is something that is hidden.

02:22So we people who are sitting here and blackening our faces,

02:26to become a so-called beggar,

02:29without anything,

02:30we should sell potholes etc.

02:32Let's ask Shehzad.

02:34Let's ask the young man.

02:36Yes, maybe he knows.

02:37Yes, young man, you tell us.

02:39Experience is more useful than this.

02:42Is Shehzad a non-event?

02:47Even this can't be a non-event.

02:49Absolutely not.

02:50No, I don't agree that this is a non-event.

02:52See, Gauhar sir being there,

02:54and now the news came from Zaray,

02:56that there was a meeting on security matters,

02:58so Gandapur sir was there,

02:59Chief Minister Khyber Pakhtunkhwa is Gandapur sir,

03:01what else did Gauhar sir have to add on security matters?

03:04Because there will be no denial.

03:05No, no, listen to Zaray's statement.

03:07Zaray says,

03:08Minister Gauhar tried to talk on political matters,

03:12Gauhar was told the answer,

03:14talk to politicians on political matters,

03:16then why did you have a separate meeting?

03:18No, if,

03:19Sir, the meeting was done.

03:20The security matters were discussed in the meeting.

03:22If this is kept secret,

03:23kept secret for 4-5 days,

03:25then it means there was something.

03:26If this was just an ordinary security meeting,

03:28then I don't think anyone would have agreed

03:30that Gauhar sir should be minused.

03:32What is the logic?

03:33That other people's name will be in the press release,

03:34but Gauhar sir's is not.

03:35Why should this be accepted?

03:36Exactly.

03:37This will already create a doubt,

03:38that what propaganda is he trying to do?

03:40Like you all are saying,

03:41there is no use of PTI in doing propaganda.

03:43Then why would anyone agree,

03:44that Gauhar sir will be in the meeting,

03:46but he will not be disclosed.

03:48And tomorrow,

03:49if Imran Khan sir takes advantage of this,

03:50he did,

03:51he gave a statement today.

03:52So, I don't think there is any,

03:54I think this is significant,

03:56but having said that,

03:57this is a meeting,

03:58this is not a negotiation.

04:00I think there is a lot of trust deficit.

04:04But anyway,

04:05what was said from one side,

04:06that look,

04:07politicians will sit and talk to each other,

04:09we know that politicians are sitting,

04:11but who has the real power?

04:12When there is a meeting in Adiyala jail on Sunday,

04:14can Maryam Nawaz do it?

04:16Do you stop the production order?

04:18Mr. Bauder was saying,

04:19that the Chief Minister has that power.

04:21The government cannot send a negotiation team.

04:23Exactly.

04:24So, I am saying,

04:25whatever happens in this,

04:26these things are controlled.

04:27This decision of £190 million,

04:28from the first day,

04:29if there is any solid case against Imran Khan,

04:31then it is this,

04:32in which those answers are made,

04:33that you took advantage of your influence,

04:34and got benefit.

04:35And this is not even that case,

04:37like Cypher,

04:38like Iddat,

04:39or like Toshakhana,

04:40in which the trial was completed rapidly,

04:41before the decision was given.

04:43Here, Imran Khan's legal team says,

04:45that the case has been heard in a year,

04:47we have been given big opportunities,

04:49our legal team has been given opportunities,

04:51and the case has been heard with great satisfaction.

04:52And the judge's decision has also been written with great satisfaction.

04:54No, no, no,

04:55when you make a decision three times,

04:57then you are saying,

04:58whether this decision is on merit or not,

05:00we control this decision.

05:02Whenever we want,

05:03this decision will be heard,

05:04whenever we want,

05:05it will not be heard.

05:06No, the problem is,

05:07that the solid case,

05:08is also made controversial in this country.

05:10Now, in this case,

05:11there was no such thing,

05:12which you made so complex,

05:14and made controversial.

05:15Why did you make it controversial?

05:16Today, it has become controversial.

05:17Everyone is talking about this.

05:18If the decision is on merit,

05:19then also it will be controversial.

05:20If Imran Khan is punished,

05:21then also it will be controversial.

05:22Whenever a decision will be made

05:23about a politician,

05:24it will be controversial.

05:25I am leaving the question,

05:26I have to take a break now.

05:27That,

05:28in power games,

05:29everyone does chess moves.

05:30It is possible,

05:31that this is the issue of the other side,

05:33that this impression should be made,

05:35that PTI is dealing with us

05:37on the back side.

05:40And,

05:41PTI has a very basic stance,

05:43that we have to talk,

05:44and we do everything on the front.

05:46But,

05:47their chairman also comes and meets,

05:49he also says,

05:50don't take photos.

05:51Then,

05:52when the matter of the meeting is confirmed,

05:53then everyone is in great enthusiasm.

05:55Like,

05:56Shah ji said,

05:57oh,

05:58we are forced to talk.

05:59This is a double-edged sword.

06:01It is also possible,

06:02that tomorrow,

06:03this will be proved,

06:04that the party has become desperate.

06:05Or,

06:06what?

06:07There has to be a two-edged,

06:08I will answer after the break.

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