"No Gathering or Political Conference Can Take Place Inside Jail," Rana Ehsan Afzal's Comment

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00:00Mr. Badami, I have an innocent question for you.

00:02Don't you want to hold a meeting or are you unable to hold one?

00:06Now they are making fun of you.

00:08They are saying that the government can't hold a meeting,

00:10so what is the use of holding a meeting?

00:12What is the solution to this?

00:14Thank you very much.

00:16Look, Mr. Badami, we have already held a meeting.

00:18Earlier, Mr. Gandapur was also holding a meeting.

00:22Today, Mr. Gauhar will also hold a meeting.

00:25There is no committee, right?

00:27Look, you can't hold a meeting in jail, right?

00:31You have to set up a conference table.

00:34If you want to hold a political meeting,

00:37you will have to change the jail manual.

00:40You will have to change some matters.

00:43So, according to the rules of the law,

00:45the meeting has already taken place.

00:47The committee has given a commitment.

00:49At that time, they said that we are jail superintendents

00:52who have to facilitate the meeting.

00:54At that time, they said that they will do it.

00:56Can't you hold a meeting?

00:58Look, the first thing is that the meeting has already taken place.

01:02Now, if you want to hold a meeting there,

01:05the recommendation was that everyone should be able to meet.

01:09Obviously, it takes a little time to process.

01:12The meeting is still going on.

01:14The message that has been sent,

01:16and the feedback that has been received from Mr. Khan,

01:18has also been received.

01:20And you saw that the PTA was very worried

01:22that we would not give it in writing.

01:25Sir, the meeting has already taken place.

01:29They have put another condition.

01:31Mr. Khan said that if the Judicial Commission is not formed

01:34in the next meeting, then the negotiations will end.

01:37So, what will happen in the next negotiations, Mr. Rana?

01:40Look, the condition they have put is that

01:43if the Judicial Commission is not formed,

01:46then the negotiations will not move forward.

01:48Look, the government has tried to move forward

01:52in the negotiations.

01:54And look, we want this polarization to be reduced.

01:58There is an economic turnaround in the country.

02:01And the political instability should end.

02:05And the country should move towards improvement.

02:08Our intention is very clear.

02:10But if you put such conditions in it,

02:12that if this does not happen, then this will happen,

02:14if this does not happen, then I think

02:16they need to rethink it again.

02:19Because in the negotiations,

02:21time can go up and down.

02:23Is it practical that the Judicial Commission

02:25is announced in the next session?

02:27No, I don't think the negotiations

02:29will be able to move forward like this.

02:31There is no problem in our intention.

02:33We want to take it forward in the best way.

02:35And things will not happen with timelines like this.

02:38But how would you respond to what Mr. Bhatti is saying?

02:41He says, and many people say that

02:43it will be very naive of us

02:45that if we understand that the government

02:47loses, Mr. Khan gains,

02:49Mr. Khan can come out,

02:51Mr. Khan can leave the government,

02:53then the government will lose its political grip.

02:56Why will it lose?

02:58What is the answer to this, Mr. Rana?

03:00Let's review this.

03:02Why haven't the negotiations been done yet?

03:04The government said,

03:06write it down in writing.

03:08They have not written it down yet.

03:10The decision has been made today.

03:12They will write it down.

03:14Earlier, there was no debate on this.

03:16It has been three to four weeks

03:18since this matter was finalized.

03:20Their demands have not been finalized yet.

03:22Then where is the delay here?

03:24From whom is the delay?

03:26The delay is from the PTI.

03:28If such a large community

03:30could not agree on their demands

03:32and could not bring those demands

03:34in a written format,

03:36then where is the seriousness?

03:38Where is the lack of seriousness?

03:40It is not towards the government.

03:42Okay, this is fine.

03:44It is the PTI.

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