"Political stability is not possible without giving rightful due to PTI and its founder."

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00:00The system now realizes that the existence of BTI and Imran Khan cannot be denied.

00:07In Pakistan, social progress is not possible without political institutions.

00:12And political institutions are not possible without giving BTI and Imran Khan their legitimate rights.

00:18They are the biggest political figures in the country.

00:21BTI is the biggest political party in the country.

00:24And we are not standing apart from the statements of Pakistan.

00:29We do not politicize on the basis of religious hatred.

00:32We do not politicize on the basis of any linguistic discrimination.

00:36We are doing politics of the Middle East.

00:39And that is why we have support from Karachi to Peshawar, Lahore, Bhutan.

00:44Even in Balochistan.

00:48So, I think this is a very big step for this country at the moment.

00:50You said you have a desire.

00:51Do you have a desire or do you have news?

00:54You have reasons to believe that this is happening.

00:59Or when we are talking right now, this is only a matter of desire.

01:03I think we are moving forward in the world of possibilities.

01:09We are moving especially forward.

01:11Okay, so you are satisfied with the situation.

01:15On the one hand, you are saying this, which is absolutely right.

01:19But on the other hand, I do not know in which environment the negotiations are taking place.

01:24You will tell me that it was a pleasant environment.

01:26There was a lot of tension than before.

01:28But one thing we have seen is that after the negotiations,

01:31whatever the press conference is, a very clear and cautious attitude is adopted.

01:36Today, this was not the case at all.

01:38That is, the same Irfan Siddiqui, who used to say that we,

01:41the members of the Negotiating Committee, have disconnected ourselves from the outside world.

01:47Today, the same Irfan Siddiqui seems to be saying that there are some meaningless demands.

01:52There are some strange and strange things.

01:54The TOR is not understanding.

01:55Not every request can be fulfilled.

01:57You are in jail.

01:58That is, there are many such things.

01:59I ask you, in the environment in which the negotiations took place today,

02:02and then in the environment in which the press conference took place,

02:04you were a little surprised that why did such a serious press conference take place?

02:07Mr. Rana Sanawalla read each and every demand and rejected it.

02:10How can this be?

02:11He even said that it is not possible to become a commissioner in the eyes of the rest.

02:16Look, if he has said this, then he must have said it under some scheme.

02:22We had a good meeting.

02:24And after reading it, our Constitution, our Charter of Demands,

02:30it was read very carefully.

02:32And there was no objection that it was not possible.

02:35It was just said that we will negotiate with each other,

02:38take legal advice, and in a week, in a period of seven days, we will give an answer.

02:44So there was some kind of discussion.

02:46I think a little grandstanding is done after coming out.

02:50So I don't give much importance to this chaos when it happens outside.

02:54I think in the end, the matters will go to the side where all the parties will see

03:01that there is evidence, there is also a question of national peace and stability.

03:06This is a middleman's chaos.

03:08They did it, we answered it.

03:10I think we will move on now.

03:13Okay.

03:14Let's leave aside the harsh language they used.

03:17You are saying that it works.

03:19Something works for optics too.

03:21But when they have gone to this extent,

03:24then you do not see the possibility of this relatively less

03:29that it is possible that they will refuse to establish a commission.

03:31Or, or, there is a question in this too.

03:34Maybe there is a little news effect in this too.

03:36Or something like this comes up that okay, sir,

03:38if you want to make a commission, then do not limit it.

03:40Then a lot of things have happened in this country.

03:41A commission should be made on this, a commission should be made on that,

03:43a grand commission should be made in which this, this, this,

03:45the one of 2014, the one of 2018, and the one of 2021 should also come.

03:48And this should also come.

03:49Don't you see any threat to this?

03:55Look, nothing like this has happened so far.

03:57In the second session, we asked if you also have any demands.

04:01The commission was also discussed then.

04:03It was just said to bring it in writing.

04:06Now, if something like this is said, then we will see.

04:09If it seems that it is an attempt to avert 9th May and 26th November,

04:14if it is said that we will investigate from the year 1958 and make a commission,

04:18then it will be a joke.

04:20Then we will make our own decision.

04:22That decision is obvious.

04:24The approval of the government is not so important for us

04:28that if it does not happen, we will get lost somewhere.

04:32There are ways in front of us, political ways, legal ways.

04:38We will keep going.

04:40We think that it should still happen to create stability in the country.

04:44The truth should be revealed.

04:46The truth of the situation we are in right now should be revealed

04:49so that we can make some kind of progress.

04:52If it does not happen, then we will make progress as a political party.

04:57And sir, since you are, obviously,

04:59there is a big name in the world of law in Pakistan,

05:01so you tell me, what about the commission you are talking about?

05:04Whatever the findings of the commission are,

05:06even if it goes through the process of formation,

05:08everything happens,

05:09then its findings should also be binding on someone.

05:12Or you will say that our position has been proven true,

05:16that the commission also said that the arrest of 9th May was in these circumstances.

05:20The commission also said that there is no CCTV.

05:22Or the commission will also be eligible to punish someone,

05:24and will also be eligible to arrest someone.

05:28No, no, the commission only brings up facts.

05:32The commission is not a court.

05:33It cannot declare anyone guilty.

05:35But it can bring up its evidence.

05:38Based on that evidence,

05:40legal action can be taken.

05:42But look, a commission is made,

05:44white papers are issued,

05:46so that the truth is revealed.

05:48The truth itself is an important incident.

05:52What to do after that, what action to take,

05:55that is a matter for later.

05:57But it cannot be denied that

05:59it is important for the people to know the truth.

06:03So these white papers are issued,

06:05enquiry reports are issued,

06:07so that the people are informed of what is happening.

06:10And Mr. Rana, what would you say to this,

06:12that while discussing some of your demands,

06:14he said that it is a very simple matter,

06:16if you want a verdict on this,

06:19you can go and petition on this tomorrow morning.

06:23No, it is not like that.

06:24He says, why is there a demand for the commission to be established?

06:27Go and petition tomorrow morning, you will get a decision.

06:29Whatever facts anyone wants from the commission,

06:33it is obvious that those things can be brought to the court

06:35through testimony.

06:37We have said that the judicial system

06:39has tried to break down after the 26th constitutional amendment.

06:43It has been said that only a government-run bench

06:46will listen to all matters of constitutional nature.

06:49That is in its place.

06:51Here the thing is that a negotiation team has been formed,

06:54the government has also formed it, we have also formed it.

06:57If there is to be any benefit to the country, the nation,

07:00if there is to be stability, then we should try to achieve it.

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