Bushra Bibi's Secret Negotiations: What Was Presented to Her? Muneeb Farooq Reveals Everything

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00:00I will try to reflect on what I think later.

00:05The news basically, as Ustad-e-Muhtara Munsir Javed Sahib said or as you said,

00:11the meetings of Bushra Bibi Sahiba, I have been saying for the last 8-10 days that what she is doing,

00:18she is really doing it for her husband and today Ibrahim Khan confirmed it as well.

00:22In those meetings, there is a focus on one thing, only one thing.

00:26It is not a discussion of what you are offering and what we will offer you, basically it is not like that.

00:34If you allow me to say, it is a more instructive kind of discussion that your position is such that you do not have leverage.

00:42So if you want to get your husband out of jail and normalize the situation, then your husband has to concede.

00:50You will have to concede on some things.

00:52The basic thing is revolving around this.

00:54All the things, the commission, the fundamental thing which is more focused on by Bushra Bibi Sahiba is that what is there for us in this.

01:02It is the same thing again and again that what is there for us.

01:05And Bushra Bibi Sahiba is a loyal wife, as you said, as Ustad-e-Muhtara Munsir Javed Sahib said.

01:12And her fundamental point is that Imran Khan should come out.

01:16And she said to Imran Khan, in so many words, whenever they met, that it is important for you to come out.

01:23You can always bounce back, but for that, new things, new terms will come.

01:27The important issue is that this case of the tribunal, Mr. Malik, the important thing in this is that if someone agrees on this,

01:37that this should be done without influence and decisions should be made on this, then nothing else is left.

01:43Then, as you said, if a decision of one seat or two seats is made, then the perception is also a big matter.

01:51The second thing is that this commission thing, I would like to tell you very cautiously that it is not that you take the commission on 9th May.

02:02It is not like that.

02:03If that is there, then its TORs will be made in such a way that its limbs will be cut off.

02:07And it is the same thing that came out of it in 2014, the commission that was received in 2015,

02:12that the result was such that the one who came to the Tariq-e-Insaf, they killed him from top to top.

02:18But that is a matter of later, Muneeb.

02:20Your initial victory is obtained by the PTI, that yes, we have made a commission.

02:24Like you say in negotiations that look, we have forced it,

02:30whether the government is doing it or whatever, but the establishment is at least talking to you, indirectly.

02:36So you have to give your spin.

02:38If the government will give its own, they will give theirs.

02:40This is the problem, Mr. Malik.

02:42This is the issue.

02:44That here, the government does not matter to them.

02:48In fact, they would like the negotiations to end, everything falls apart.

02:52Because naturally, the government is benefitting.

02:54It is a beneficiary of the situation.

02:56The issue is that if we look at any politician in that way,

03:00if the political party has leverage, then it will do a good deal or a good negotiation.

03:06The question is whether Mr. Imran Khan or Mr. Tariq-e-Insaf have leverage.

03:10I think we all know that they do not have leverage at the moment.

03:14If you say about the commission, they will say that the commission is not important for them.

03:20Mind you, sir, the most important for them, you know, the be-all and end-all is Mr. Imran Khan's release.

03:26The release from jail.

03:28In what terms does that happen?

03:30That is what we have to see.

03:32Sir, I am talking about leverage.

03:34Yes, I agree that the PTI is not in a state of protest right now.

03:40What happened on 26th November, what happened before that, especially in Punjab,

03:44what happened here,

03:46how many workers are held inside,

03:48who died, who did not die,

03:50that is also not complete yet.

03:52The party is fatigued.

03:54But this is also a fact that two things are very unquestioned.

03:58One, Imran's support base is intact.

04:00Secondly, whoever is angry at PMLN,

04:04whoever is angry at the PPP,

04:06whoever is angry at the army,

04:08they are all standing with Imran Khan.

04:12One is their own support base,

04:14the other is the anti-base.

04:16And that is why their popular support is intact.

04:20This is a very big leverage

04:22because they have succeeded in making an anti-establishment,

04:26and this government has not made a counter-establishment.

04:30So this is not a lot of leverage.

04:32Sir, please don't mind what I am saying.

04:34There is no doubt,

04:36all the leverages you have made,

04:38they are absolutely valid.

04:40Let's be honest.

04:42But boss,

04:44you should also be able to use it.

04:48If I give you the latest iPhone,

04:50and you don't go beyond the limits,

04:52then what can happen?

04:54Right?

04:56Here, you can easily find Mullah Vikta Sajan on Kani Mukdi.

04:58By selling Jinn in Lailama.

05:00This is a basic thing.

05:02Whatever you are doing, you are doing it for me.

05:04The second thing is,

05:06please,

05:08I agree with Munir,

05:10and you and I,

05:12while living in Islamabad,

05:14have seen at least three governments go.

05:16You must remember,

05:18when Respected Benazir Bhutto's

05:20second government,

05:22Farooq Laghari, was breaking,

05:24then you had food.

05:26I came there late.

05:28All of you were after me.

05:30And those days,

05:32Senator Raza Rabbani,

05:34was the minister of Parliamentary Affairs,

05:36I said, sorry, I came late.

05:38I got the news that

05:40Farooq Laghari is going to break the government.

05:42And you remember,

05:44you were shouting at me,

05:46being a friend of Respected Benazir Rabbani,

05:48that I came after giving

05:50a speech at the National Assembly.

05:52You remember, don't you?

05:54Keeping the same thing in mind,

05:56it is possible that

05:58the thinking of the current government

06:00is wrong.

06:02But the current government,

06:04religiously, thinks that

06:06on 26th November,

06:08they broke their back.

06:10Therefore, you think that

06:12after that,

06:14when we have displayed

06:16our state power,

06:18now we have the leverage

06:20and not him.

06:22This can be a wrong perception.

06:24I am forced to give an example.

06:26So, they think that

06:28they will have to concede.

06:30And unfortunately,

06:32the way this committee

06:34that we can see,

06:36it seems to be

06:38conceding.

06:40For example,

06:42they say,

06:44we have two demands,

06:46what is there to write?

06:48Today, Barrister Gauhar

06:50came together and said,

06:52Imran Khan said,

06:54if you want to write,

06:56then write.

06:58Fawad Chaudhary has posted

07:00that this leadership,

07:02Imran Khan agreed to it.

07:04Otherwise, Imran Khan said,

07:06finish it.

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