"Negotiations Led by Bushra Bibi," Mazhar Abbas Comments on Mohammad Malik's Report

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00:00Negotiations are being held by either Ms. Bushra or by Ms. Ghalwan Bushra.

00:08I have an interesting news.

00:10It is being seriously thought that they can get one commission and that is on May 9th.

00:19This is still a thought and not a decision and I understand the reasons behind it.

00:25May be because this is the accused in May 9th and 26th is a different case.

00:34Do you think there can be a development in the third commission or third seating?

00:41If there is an indication that we can talk about it.

00:45Because in detail in my program yesterday, Mr. Rana Sinawala gave reasons.

00:49He said that it is not a question of commission.

00:52They should tell us the TORs, what will be the framing of the commission,

00:56what will be the TORs if the judge agrees.

00:59Tell us the name.

01:00I said that the name of the judge you will not even let him become the Chief Justice.

01:03Then why will they tell us the name of the judge?

01:05So there were a lot of nitty-gritty talks going on.

01:08Similarly, in the opinion of the prisoners, they said that they should give us a list,

01:12tell us how they are differentiating criminal cases, political cases, whatever.

01:18But Mr. Khan had a tampered reaction today.

01:23That talks should take place and you should go and give a written statement.

01:28But along with that, he also said in his typical style that if this does not happen,

01:32then there will be no meeting after that.

01:34Are these negotiations linked with any other negotiations?

01:39Do you think this is really going on independently?

01:43Yes, thank you sir.

01:45See, I wanted to talk about what we wanted to do before the program started,

01:49that the Ministry of Information…

01:51Leave that, we will do it again.

01:53Declared a strategic institution.

01:56Let's be afraid of the day when the media will be declared a strategic institution.

02:01But what you are saying…

02:04In that case, you will have to hang yourself.

02:08Don't do this, for God's sake, don't do this.

02:12The second thing, see, the simple thing is that what you were talking about,

02:18I was very surprised by two things from Mr. Khan's statement.

02:22On the one hand, he is telling his negotiations team to go and do the third round,

02:27it is a good thing, and give it in writing as well.

02:30But I am saying this to Kalbi Kaldochan that in this,

02:34I do not understand the core issue in the demands of the PTI,

02:38because of which all this chaos has arisen.

02:41And that is 8th February.

02:43So have you surrendered from 8th February?

02:46Is 8th February no longer your core issue?

02:50And your core issue has only been that it is important,

02:55but I think it should be linked to it.

02:58Because the real thing is that your fight,

03:01since the government of Shahbaz Sharif for 16 months,

03:04and after that, after 8th February,

03:07it is all about your mandate.

03:09So from this whole struggle, the mandate has disappeared,

03:12that our mandate should be returned.

03:14I will share a news with you.

03:16The problem is that I had kept some news in different programs,

03:20one by one,

03:22now you have asked a question like this,

03:24so I will have to share this news with you.

03:26One thing that is also being discussed,

03:28that for PTI,

03:30this facility can also be obtained,

03:32that the tribunals,

03:34those tribunals decide quickly.

03:37Look, it is going to be a year,

03:39only 27% of the cases have been decided.

03:41There is a limit of 180 days that your decisions should be made.

03:44So it has been a long time since 6 months.

03:46So only 27% cases have been made,

03:48in the whole area of Punjab.

03:50And this is also being messaged,

03:52that it is guaranteed that the big names of PMLN,

03:57their decisions will be fair,

04:00no one will influence them.

04:02Now imagine,

04:04if Nawazim's decision is on the seat of Lahore,

04:08that he has lost,

04:10then what is the need to talk about 8th February?

04:12That is what is called a cut in Punjabi.

04:15So there are way outs.

04:17If the election is not happening,

04:19then some other things are happening.

04:21Sir, this means that

04:23the above level discussions that are taking place,

04:27which we can see in front of us,

04:30these are not actually discussions.

04:33Discussions are taking place,

04:35which either Bushra Bibi is doing,

04:37because today this is also a surprising thing,

04:40that she said,

04:42although he often speaks publicly,

04:44that he does not reveal his identity.

04:46But today if he is saying this,

04:48that whatever Bushra Bibi is doing,

04:50she is doing it for her own self.

04:52So this to me,

04:54that other thing about Begum Butto,

04:56or Urso Nawaz,

04:58if it is seen in that context,

05:00then it is a different thing.

05:02But in that,

05:04what were the results of what the women did in the past?

05:07Begum Butto,

05:09which Ghulam Mustafa Jatoohi Sahib told me,

05:11that in front of Begum Butto,

05:13when she had put this condition,

05:15that I am going to meet General Zia,

05:18I need your approval,

05:21and that was a Turkish formula.

05:23But Begum Butto said,

05:25I have no objection, but he will not agree.

05:28Now here the issue,

05:30when Kulthum Nawaz Sahiba met,

05:32and then she met,

05:34the result of that was seen later.

05:36The agreement of 2000 was seen in that.

05:38Now here,

05:40this means that Imran Khan Sahib

05:42is telling his people to go and negotiate,

05:45and actual negotiations are taking place elsewhere,

05:47and they are probably negotiating as well.

05:49So this thing,

05:51within PTI,

05:53is very disturbing.

05:55What is happening?

05:57What is the response of the government on this?

05:59The government is mishandling a lot of things,

06:02and the way in which

06:04Rana S.A.W. is saying something,

06:06Ayaz Sadiq is saying something,

06:08I don't think that

06:10the negotiations that are visible,

06:13these negotiations will be proven

06:15to be successful.

06:17I don't see these negotiations being successful.

06:19Whatever will happen,

06:21will be a backdoor.

06:23If there is any relaxation in the agreement,

06:25then it will be a backdoor.

06:27And it will obviously take some time.

06:29And these negotiations,

06:31I don't think these negotiations

06:33are going too far.

06:35Because the Judicial Commission

06:37will be formed on one thing,

06:39and what will be its scope?

06:41It will be formed under the Inquiry of Commission.

06:43Its scope is very limited.

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