"Offering Maulana Sahib to Mediate Between Both Parties" Kamran Murtaza

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00:00Is there any possibility that the government can harm you and you don't become a part of the Grand Opposition Alliance?

00:10It is a matter of principle that since the elections did not go well, or at least from our point of view,

00:20then we will not sit with this government.

00:25As far as the relations are concerned, both the Mian Nawaz Sharif and Mian Shahbaz Sharif have personal and good relations.

00:36There is a relationship of respect between them and between us as well.

00:40We have also reconciled a relationship of respect with Imran Khan.

00:51There is also a working relationship. We do not say anything against them.

00:58In fact, when we feel that something is wrong with them, we support them.

01:06Despite the fact that we are not a part of any alliance with them.

01:11We are moving forward in a good environment.

01:16Pakistan's politics should move forward.

01:20I am sorry I am cutting you short.

01:22But you have good relations on both sides.

01:24Especially you have become better than PTI.

01:26This is a golden opportunity to bridge the gap between the opposition and the government.

01:32So if you sit on any side, whether it is the side of the government or the opposition,

01:36then the matter of bridging will be done on the side.

01:40Isn't it better for Pakistan to play that role?

01:44If both parties want, then all parties can be called and they can host it.

01:50This is my suggestion.

01:52If both sides want, and if there is a way of respect in it,

01:58in which there is good for Pakistan and some matters go ahead,

02:03then I can give this suggestion from my side.

02:06And if the parties want, then we will not have any objection.

02:10Maulana Sahib will host it.

02:12And if we come close to it, then Pakistan will have to move forward.

02:16Pakistan will not always have one election,

02:20and then half of the people will say that the election was right,

02:23and half of the people will say that the election was wrong.

02:25We have to decide a mechanism,

02:28we have to decide a method according to which the matter will be settled.

02:31So Mr. Kamran, you are committing this on air,

02:33that you will give this suggestion to Maulana Sahib

02:35that you try to make both parties sit.

02:38Without Maulana Sahib's permission,

02:43I am offering that he can make both parties sit,

02:48and he has the capacity.

02:50And if this happens, if both parties want,

02:54then it will be good for Pakistan,

02:57but for this, the rules of the game will have to be decided.

03:02So in such a situation, Maulana Sahib can play a role.

03:05You have said it very eloquently.

03:07But Mr. Senator, for that, if you sit with the Grand Opposition,

03:12or with the government,

03:14won't that somehow become a hurdle in your role?

03:18Look, for the next 10-15 days, we are not a part of the Grand Opposition.

03:25Maulana Karni will leave the day after tomorrow.

03:27He has a tour of foreign countries and he is old.

03:30So for the next 15 days, my offer is valid.

03:33After that, I will leave.

03:35Okay, for the next 15 days, your offer is valid.

03:37Point noted, at least.

03:38Mr. Umair Niazi, for the next 15 days,

03:40are you ready to take it up?

03:42Or is it still the same thing that I have explained,

03:44I mean PTI,

03:46that if we want to talk, we have to talk to the army.

03:48We have to give a message, but we have to talk to the army.

03:52Yes, where did this come from?

03:55Basically, look,

03:56the parliament is the arena for politicians,

03:59whether they fight in it,

04:00whether they accuse each other,

04:02but you are not coming to the parliament.

04:04Do you believe in the parliament?

04:06No, no, we are coming to the parliament.

04:07There is no business in the parliament.

04:09It is a matter of understanding.

04:11Look, if there is a policy related to terrorism in the parliament,

04:15it has been discussed.

04:16Interior ministers do not like to come to the parliament.

04:18When there was a national security meeting,

04:20Mr. Imran Khan did not go as the Prime Minister.

04:23Everyone's complaint will remain there.

04:25But give me an answer to this.

04:27One minute.

04:28Give me an answer to this, Mr. Bairasi.

04:30The offer that Mr. Kamran Murtaza has just given,

04:33that Mr. Maulana has the capability

04:35to sit with both of you.

04:37Are you ready to take it up or not?

04:41Look, the political forces should sit.

04:43There is no other way.

04:44You don't want to sit? Are you ready to sit or not?

04:47No, look, this decision will be made by the party.

04:49What I am talking about overall is

04:51that when you sit with a preconceived mind

04:54that we have to sit for an eye wash,

04:57as it happened in the previous round.

04:59There were three rounds.

05:01It was insisted again and again

05:03that these are not your demands.

05:05You are basically asking for something else.

05:07When it is given in writing,

05:09then there is no answer for seven days.

05:11In fact, there is a verbal confusion

05:13that you have made us wait for four days.

05:15How can it be on 9th May?

05:17We have also waited for 47 days.

05:19No, seven days had passed.

05:21Then we kept waiting indefinitely.

05:23Have they made a commission so far?

05:25The government can make a commission at any time.

05:27Is it bound by the opinion of the opposition?

05:29Today, it is not their responsibility

05:31to fully probe the incidents of 9th May

05:33that there is no conspiracy from any side.

05:35On 26th November...

05:37Well, this is your matter.

05:39It is right now your word

05:41against the government's word.

05:43This is right now your word

05:45against the government's word.

05:47It still has to be proven.

05:49I will come back to you.

05:51Let me come back to you on this.

05:53Minister Aqeel,

05:55are you ready to take up

05:57the offer that Kamran Murtaza

05:59is giving at this time?

06:01The clock is ticking right now.

06:03Are you ready to take it up?

06:05Will you sit with the PTI

06:07with a clear heart

06:09or will you be ready to sit

06:11with the preconceived notion

06:13that Umair Niazi is complaining about?

06:15Look, Anika Sahiba,

06:17we have no objection in sitting.

06:19You don't want to sit, right?

06:21No one has come from the other side.

06:23So, are we sitting alone?

06:25You are sitting here.

06:27Talk about sitting with a clear heart.

06:29No, we have a clear heart.

06:31We said that we want to convince.

06:33My brother, Barrister Umair Niazi

06:35also said that within 7 days...

06:37So, 7 working days,

06:39you said in the joint announcement

06:41that we will give an answer in 7 working days

06:43and then meet in the meeting.

06:45That is why 7 working days were set.

06:47You also put 42 days

06:49I can say this to you.

06:51You have the power. You wait.

06:53It is a great offer by Kamran Murtaza.

06:55And it is a very good thing.

06:57It will prove beneficial

06:59to end the political polarization.

07:01I think that

07:03the role of the bridge

07:05can be played by Maulana.

07:07That is why, in my opinion,

07:09I am not a fan of the past.

07:11I don't think that

07:13Maulana will be a part

07:15of any Grand Opposition Alliance.

07:17And the reason for that is

07:19that the situation of

07:21bridging the gap

07:23that you said

07:25to end the polarization

07:27from both sides

07:29and not from our side.

07:31Polarization is coming

07:33from PTI.

07:35So, I think that Maulana

07:37can play a critical role

07:39under his

07:41mentorship.

07:43Under his leadership.

07:45We don't have any issue.

07:47But provided,

07:49and it should be provided,

07:51provided that

07:53he will remove

07:55the direction of his cannons

07:57from the institutions.

07:59You will have to wait for that.

08:01But Kamran, very soon,

08:03before you leave,

08:05tell me this,

08:07I don't think that

08:09Maulana will be a part

08:11of the Grand Opposition Alliance.

08:13No, don't take this

08:15for granted.

08:17In that,

08:19we are united

08:21in many issues.

08:23In that,

08:25what should be the way

08:27of struggle?

08:29Can we move together or not?

08:31Can our workers come together

08:33or not?

08:35In our opinion,

08:37these are the issues.

08:39If it can be a bridge

08:41or not,

08:43then,

08:45God forbid,

08:47if we try to move together

08:49and fail, then it is a very bad thing.

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