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" Founder has given tasks to different people." Barrister Ali Zafar gave the inside news
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4/5/2025
" Founder has given tasks to different people." Barrister Ali Zafar gave the inside news
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00:00
Mr. Khan knew that the meetings would be halted and that is why he has given different tasks to different people.
00:07
Even if you are not present, you should implement what I have just said and follow it.
00:16
So those who have been given tasks, as far as I know, they are doing their job.
00:22
If someone is not doing it, I think the workers will not forgive him.
00:26
Mr. Sen, will you shed some light on who has been given what tasks?
00:31
Look, there are some things that I may not be able to tell you.
00:35
There are a lot of tasks, important tasks.
00:38
And what to do, who has to do it, all that has been told.
00:43
Since the meetings are not taking place and we are not able to give our statements,
00:51
so when the time comes, we will tell you who is doing what.
00:56
But for example, you gave an example.
00:58
If this was a strategy that after Eid, we have to go into a protest mode,
01:06
then the preparation should be complete and it should be implemented.
01:11
But the preparation is not complete, Mr. Sen.
01:14
Neither is the preparation complete nor is the leadership ready.
01:17
Because what I was told, my off-the-record sources,
01:20
they told me that no such protest is being prepared that Islamabad will come and there will be a protest.
01:25
And there is no such thing at the moment.
01:27
Yes, this is not at all.
01:29
I can also tell you that this is not the strategy at the moment.
01:34
This strategy was not there before.
01:35
There was no intention to protest in Islamabad after Eid.
01:41
But there is a different strategy and it should be implemented.
01:46
And you will see soon that it will be implemented.
01:49
What is the strategy?
01:51
Is it a conversation?
01:52
Is it a negotiation?
01:53
Is it to reach out to others, Mr. Sen?
01:55
As far as reaching out is concerned, it is news.
02:03
And the news that I have, I will treat it as news.
02:10
What is the authenticity of it or what is the real thing?
02:14
I have a meeting in the next two days.
02:17
So when I find out directly what it is and what is the strategy on it, I will be able to tell you.
02:24
But personally, I think that you should keep the door of dialogue open for a political party.
02:35
The strategy that was made for it, which has been implemented more than half,
02:41
is that we have to form an alliance with the opposition first.
02:47
And then as a demand of the joint opposition, if we get a chance to negotiate, we will negotiate.
02:54
So as far as the alliance is concerned, work is being done on it.
02:59
100% has not been successful yet.
03:02
Work is being done on it.
03:04
It reaches 100% to 98%.
03:07
Mr. Maulana is very happy and gives statements.
03:10
Then there is a statement by Ali Amin Gandapur sahib.
03:12
The water spills.
03:13
So what is happening?
03:14
Why is this happening?
03:18
This is also something that has happened.
03:22
But to look at it in this way,
03:25
I will tell you about our positive side.
03:30
The positive side is that on many principles,
03:34
we have one common ground with Mr. Maulana.
03:40
That is, we trust each other on those grounds.
03:44
For example, selling the democracy, re-election,
03:47
becoming the new chief election commissioner,
03:51
becoming independent, making a good chief election commissioner,
03:56
making clean electoral reforms,
04:00
we have an agreement on these democratic principles.
04:05
Our decision has been made.
04:08
But there are some things on which there are still issues.
04:12
And you pointed out something.
04:14
I can also point out something else.
04:16
On which our confidence-building measures have increased the chance of an agreement.
04:24
But those things have not been completed yet.
04:27
After confidence-building measures,
04:29
what should we expect?
04:31
Should we expect that there will be an alliance?
04:33
Or will you still go on your own terms?
04:40
Look, to a large extent,
04:42
because we have different parties,
04:44
and ultimately both these parties stand in front of each other in elections.
04:49
Especially in the KPK area,
04:52
they do not have an election alliance.
04:57
Candidates are always against each other.
05:00
Workers also stand against each other.
05:02
So it is not possible that both parties,
05:05
both political parties merge in one place.
05:08
They will do their own politics.
05:10
But as I said, there are some principles on which we can sit and oppose.
05:15
And I think those principles are very important.
05:18
Once those principles are decided,
05:21
then I think this alliance can go ahead to that extent.
05:24
Now we are talking about principles.
05:26
Mr. Behraz, you are a lawyer.
05:28
There is a Government Servant Conduct Rule of 1964.
05:30
It says that no Government Servant can participate in politics,
05:33
or any political rally, or political chanting,
05:36
or even his family cannot participate in it.
05:39
Here we have CM of KPK,
05:41
who is doing very well with Wifaq on many issues.
05:44
He is saying that we will come and protest
05:46
if the issue of NFC is not solved by April.
05:48
He will bring the Government Servant,
05:50
he will bring the Government Officers,
05:52
he will bring the Police.
05:54
Will this matter be legal, Mr. Behraz?
05:58
I think you have answered your question.
06:01
Clearly, this law is very clear
06:04
that Civil Servants cannot participate in such protests.
06:08
And this is the law.
06:11
Let them do their work.
06:13
I think it is not right to involve them in such politics.
06:18
This is my clear view, my opinion.
06:26
But I would also like to say that
06:29
as far as the NFC is concerned,
06:31
this is something that has been disputed for a long time.
06:38
It is very important that it is solved in a way
06:42
that you do not deprive a province of its rights
06:47
through the NFC award.
06:51
That I agree with.
06:53
That I agree with.
06:55
Mr. Behraz, last question.
06:57
Bilawal Bhutto Zardari,
06:59
his party, Pakistan People's Party,
07:01
and PMLN are having a water dispute
07:03
regarding the Cholistan Canal.
07:05
You must remember that before the government was formed,
07:07
the People's Party reached out to PTI
07:09
to form a government together.
07:12
So let's form a government together.
07:14
Now, there is a small dispute between the government and PTI.
07:17
Does PTI have any intention of exploiting this dispute?
07:20
Let's reach out to PTI again.
07:22
The matter is not being resolved from where you want to talk.
07:25
They are saying that if you want to do politics,
07:27
then the politicians will have to talk to each other.
07:29
So let's see if the politicians can come up with a solution.
07:32
Look, in my opinion,
07:35
the first step is to form a joint opposition.
07:39
The People's Party is in the government,
07:41
so let's treat it as a government party.
07:45
So, first of all, it is necessary
07:47
that your joint opposition becomes an alliance,
07:50
which can form TORs,
07:53
and we can decide how we want to proceed.
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