Noon League Pechay, Peoples Party Agay?? Zair-e Gardish Khabron Mein Kitni Sadaqat Hai??

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00:00Mr. Muneeb, before this, the politicians were talking to us, and I want you to come to this point.

00:05Yesterday, I also spoke to some of my friends, well-known political friends.

00:09They said, no, no, sir, this system is not going to work anymore.

00:11And the composition of this system is going to change.

00:13Either the National Government will come, or the Noon League will come later,

00:16People's Party will come later, maybe a little PTI will come later.

00:18This can't go on like this.

00:20And they also refer to Mr. Bawda's statement,

00:22that Mr. Bawda said that the system is carrying the funeral of the Noon League.

00:25The system should be divorced, the Noon League and all.

00:28Personally, I don't think this is the case.

00:30What is your opinion on this?

00:34Thank you very much, Mr. Naveen.

00:35Look, the request is that our country's politics is events-driven politics.

00:41If an event happens, then we cannot really predict where the matter will go.

00:46But if I talk about today,

00:49then the problem is that the matters of Pakistan's establishment and this government,

00:56as I used to say, I gave you an example earlier,

01:00that there used to be the same page, the same page, the whole system used to run.

01:04Now there is no page.

01:06Now there are syllabus on which the government is working.

01:09In fact, it is reading them.

01:11So when there is such a situation and there is so much fanaticism,

01:15about which the Prime Minister himself,

01:19Mohammad Sahibaz Sharif Sahib,

01:21says that he is one life, two kalib,

01:23about himself and the commander-in-chief,

01:25with reference to General Asim Munir Sahib,

01:27this tells you how much fanaticism there is.

01:31And the position of Pakistan's establishment at the moment,

01:36look, there are two signatories of this system.

01:38One is Mian Nawaz Sharif Sahib,

01:40and the other is Asif Zardari Sahib.

01:42The rest of the personalities, their importance is in their own place.

01:45But the situation that is going on, is because of all these personalities.

01:51Now, no doubt, Asif Zardari Sahib would definitely want,

01:54and should want, that his sons become the Prime Minister of this country.

01:58Because he checks all the boxes.

02:00That he is educated, he has been a foreign minister,

02:03he is following his grandfather's pedigree, everything is there.

02:06But I think he would want that.

02:09But at the moment, the system,

02:11the things that have been fitted in it,

02:13I don't see any change in it.

02:15We have, our fellow passenger,

02:17friend Faisal Wada Sahib,

02:19his observations, his talks,

02:21are of great importance in their own place.

02:23But in my opinion, at the moment,

02:25I don't see anything like that happening.

02:27Maybe our brother has made it a little sweeter in his own way, in your opinion.

02:31Yes, look, I have my own assessment too.

02:34I have my own talks too.

02:36But I think that whatever has been decided,

02:39is a little above my, your, Atar Bhai's or Faisal Wada Sahib's matters.

02:43Right.

02:44It is above our pay grade.

02:45Right.

02:46Mr. Kazmi, I have one more question for you.

02:48But if you want to comment, then comment.

02:50And you tell me, is there any comparison to this?

02:52If someone says that, sir, that is fine,

02:54but it is a matter of yesterday.

02:55Khan Sahib also used to say,

02:56I have not seen a journal like Mr. Bajwa.

02:59Yes, they tape my phone.

03:01So it's a good thing.

03:02Every establishment does it.

03:03And then how did that page become Riza, Riza, Zara, Zara?

03:05So this can happen today too.

03:07This is not in your opinion.

03:08These are two different matters.

03:09And here the matter has gone far ahead.

03:12So one thing is that Muneeb Sahib counted everyone's pay grade

03:15and said that it is a matter above them.

03:17So I think in between,

03:18he would have also counted Shahbaz Sharif

03:20that it is a matter above them too.

03:21The issue is that, I mean,

03:25as much as Mr. Shahbaz Sharif's sacrifice,

03:27Mr. Shahbaz Sharif's pay grade is not there.

03:29Mr. Shahbaz Sharif's pay grade is not there.

03:31That, that pro bono work,

03:33that, what do they say,

03:34works without salary.

03:36Without compensation.

03:37Okay.

03:38So their services will be taken care of in the case of Mr. Shahbaz.

03:40Atar Bhai.

03:41Exactly.

03:42Their services,

03:43the services they have,

03:45I don't think that in the current scenario,

03:47any other Prime Minister can serve the country and the nation

03:49in the same way as they are doing.

03:51So this desire may be there

03:53that Mr. Bilawal should be brought.

03:55We have been listening to this kind of talk for a long time.

03:57It has been emphasizing it for two or three months.

03:59There are also talks that it may be that

04:01there may be a patch-up with Tehreek-e-Insaf.

04:03But I don't think this is more than a desire.

04:06The current situation is that

04:08neither Imran Khan's affairs can be fixed with the establishment

04:12nor is there any desire of the establishment.

04:14And look, there is an issue of personalities at the moment.

04:18The real issue is of Khan's personality.

04:20It is not just an issue of the Jamaat that

04:22this is a Jamaat and it has an opinion.

04:24Similarly, there is an issue of personalities on the other side as well.

04:26So I think this is just a matter,

04:28a desire, nothing more than that.

04:30Atar Bhai, how do I move forward from here?

04:32I will ask this question to Munir Bhai.

04:34I was saying today that

04:36I think that the power and anger on one side is a fact

04:41and it is not going anywhere in the times to come.

04:44And on the other side, the popularity among the public is a fact

04:46and it is not going anywhere in the near future at least.

04:48Now how do we move forward from here?

04:50If not a month, then it will be a call in four months.

04:52Again a stick, then a stick, then tears.

04:55So is it like this?

04:57How will the situation move forward from here?

04:59Atar Bhai, first you tell us.

05:01Look, the political parties will also have to play their role in this.

05:05The parliament plays its role.

05:07Here we mention the parliament again and again.

05:09Yesterday we saw that there was a march in South Korea.

05:12The role played by the parliament was seen by the whole world.

05:15The parliament opens here at night as well.

05:17But unfortunately, for the interests of the powerful,

05:20it opens for their protection.

05:22So this is the difference between the 45th form parliament of South Korea

05:25that they have solved the problems.

05:27We say that the 45th and 47th here,

05:30as Maulana Sahib stood up and said,

05:32whoever is here, is here now.

05:34So if you look at these matters,

05:36I feel that until the matters are settled in some places,

05:40among each other,

05:41as long as they have a chance,

05:43look, this is not an unlimited window

05:45that if these matters are not fixed,

05:47then the matters will continue to go on like this.

05:49You saw that there was a very unfortunate incident here in Islamabad.

05:52The situation can also be bad.

05:54So all of them should realize this thing.

05:56For some reason, I don't know what the issue is,

05:58that it is a deadlock.

06:00These people are not understanding.

06:02So for now, I can't see things moving forward.

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