"Hum Sirf 2 Cheezen Chahtay Hen Kay...", Faisal Chaudhry

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00:00What will be the bare minimum?

00:01All your talks will not be accepted.

00:03You have to meet somewhere in the middle.

00:05Neither their demands will be accepted, nor yours.

00:08What is the bare minimum?

00:09This is the starting point.

00:10Look, we want two things.

00:13The first thing is that we do not want any settlement for our prisoners.

00:17We want you to either conclude their trial from 9th May.

00:22Now there is a penalty of one year for the crime of which you have kept them in custody for a year and a half.

00:27Along with that, you have to either conclude their trial or give them bail.

00:31Because this is their right.

00:33If you keep them in custody for two years, then they become prisoners of murder.

00:37So we are not asking for a settlement.

00:39We are not saying that you will withdraw.

00:41We are ready to face.

00:42But it will be a political settlement.

00:43It is not a legal settlement.

00:44Let's be very honest.

00:45It is political.

00:46Secondly, we want you to make a judicial commission.

00:49Look, we think and we say that 9th May is a politically motivated action by the government.

00:58There are reasons for that.

01:00Those who have left PTI have been declared prisoners.

01:04And those who have not left PTI, there are 40 cases on each person.

01:10They have weakened their case themselves.

01:11Yes, they have weakened their case.

01:12Along with that, we will punish some people in the military court tomorrow.

01:20I do not endorse it.

01:21I think that is…

01:22Principally, I am also against the trial of civilians in the political court.

01:25But the Supreme Court has a very big fault in this.

01:27The Supreme Court has dealt with this case through temporary orders.

01:31This is the most important case of fundamental rights.

01:33This is the case of the Saini Bank and the old Supreme Court.

01:35But Mr. Faisal, what you are talking about is technically legal.

01:38But this is not a technical and legal case.

01:40This is a political case.

01:41Even if you are not asking for any leniency, you will go towards a political solution.

01:46The decision of a £190 case is not coming tomorrow.

01:49Is this a legal issue?

01:50This is a political issue.

01:51We are talking about the Al-Khadr Trust case.

01:52Yes, this is the problem that was supposed to come tomorrow.

01:55This is a political problem.

01:56This is not a legal problem.

01:57Tell me, there are about 300 cases on Imran Khan.

02:02Or he has kept Busha Bibi in jail for 10 months.

02:05Or there is a case on Alima Bibi.

02:09This is a legal case.

02:10This is also a political case.

02:11Yes, this is a political case.

02:12I am telling you that you will get a political relief.

02:14You will also have to give them a political solution.

02:16This is a win-take.

02:17The first thing is that their counter-agenda has come.

02:20What do they want?

02:21What are their demands?

02:22They want the government of Form 47 to be forgotten.

02:26We should be endorsed.

02:28Parliament should be endorsed.

02:29That's a good question.

02:30When their political demands will come to light.

02:32Let's ask them.

02:33Mr. Barise, what are your counter-demands?

02:36They have two simple demands.

02:37That they should make a commission.

02:38And release our politicians.

02:39What are your big demands?

02:41Don't tell me specific TORs.

02:44Which have not been decided.

02:45What is the understanding in the government?

02:47What will they have to do?

02:49To meet you halfway.

02:50Look, Mr. Barise.

02:53We will first look at their demands.

02:55Because this is a two-point agenda.

02:56These are two demands.

02:57These are not the real demands.

02:59We are also very cognizant of the fact.

03:01We are well aware.

03:03That the real demand here.

03:05Will be the release of Baniya PTI.

03:07That's why I endorse them.

03:10That they should go.

03:11Meet this committee.

03:12And get their demands from there.

03:14Because the real thing is.

03:16This cat should come out of the bag.

03:18And should be visible.

03:19To the public and to us.

03:20That here.

03:21Under the pretext of jokes.

03:23If there is a deal or a deal.

03:25Is being asked.

03:26Then that we can.

03:27Because the cases they talked about.

03:30They said.

03:31£190 million is a political case.

03:33Do you really think.

03:34£190 million.

03:35Or Tushakhana.

03:36Tushakhana.

03:37200%.

03:38I want to know.

03:39Mr. Birbal.

03:40Why is the decision not coming tomorrow?

03:41And why did some people find out earlier?

03:42And in the court.

03:43In the evening.

03:44The decision is not coming.

03:45It was coming yesterday.

03:46So when there is such a manipulation.

03:47Then it is a political case.

03:48Legally.

03:49Then the decision was made yesterday.

03:50It is not being made.

03:51They are taking it forward in January.

03:52If.

03:53If.

03:54I will definitely say.

03:55If this was really a political case.

03:58Then.

03:59Then.

04:00Money wouldn't have changed hands.

04:01Then.

04:02In closed envelopes.

04:03Approval is not taken.

04:04From the entire cabinet.

04:05And after that.

04:06There was nothing to present.

04:07Now.

04:08This is the.

04:09£190 million is a political case.

04:10And then it was said.

04:11That if anyone from my party.

04:12Give me a proof.

04:13That anyone from my party.

04:14Or office bearer.

04:15Or someone.

04:16My supporter or voter.

04:17If I am involved in 9th May.

04:18Then I will take him out of the party.

04:19Right.

04:2025 people.

04:21It will be decided.

04:22Similarly.

04:23At the same time.

04:24You see this.

04:25That.

04:26The whole.

04:27It was curated.

04:28All this.

04:29It was carefully planned.

04:30May 9th.

04:31It is in front of you.

04:32It is not possible.

04:33The handling of this.

04:34Sir.

04:35From the state.

04:36There is no political angling in it.

04:37Let's come to May 9th.

04:38Those who did press conferences.

04:39They are still doing politics.

04:40Those who did not do it.

04:41Cases against them also went on.

04:42They are also in jails.

04:43Some decisions have also come to the military court.

04:44Why were there different scales.

04:45If this was not handled politically.

04:46Look.

04:47Mother.

04:48This is a political case.

04:49This is a political case.

04:50This is a political case.

04:51This is a political case.

04:52This is a political case.

04:53This is a political case.

04:54This is a political case.

04:55There should be no different scales at all.

04:59If someone has done a press conference.

05:00It does not mean that.

05:05Absolutely.

05:06Definitely they should be driven to their role.

05:10Yeah.

05:11Definitely.

05:12Let's say.

05:13Let's do it.

05:14I am your brother.

05:15And we will tell you.

05:16A few people have done a press conference.

05:17And, some story.

05:18And then those who did this.

05:19That all.

05:20This is done here.

05:21Oh, I don't know who is in charge here.

05:23If they were actually aiding and abetting, or they were part of the May 9th events,

05:30and it was just a press conference, then it shouldn't have happened.

05:34It shouldn't have happened, but unfortunately it did happen.

05:38That is why I am saying that the way it has been dealt with, the way it has been treated,

05:42it has a political angling.

05:44Al-Qadir case will undoubtedly have a lot of life, but the way it is being dealt with

05:48is a political case.

05:50If the judge has to write a decision, if all the arguments from both sides

05:54regarding the defense and prosecution have been completed,

05:56then it will take time for him to write a decision.

05:59Of course, it can also be said that if he has announced a date tentatively,

06:03and then he wants to change it, then there is no such thing.

06:07We wait for an IRO's wait for order, and that day,

06:11Mr. Faisal will also tell you that the decision does not even come from the High Court.

06:16The next day or two days after the wait for order,

06:20there is no such thing.

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