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" Nawaz Sharif Ko Insaf Mil Raha Hai To Log Kehte Hain Un Ko Relief Mil Raha Hai " Javed Latif
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12/13/2024
" Nawaz Sharif Ko Insaf Mil Raha Hai To Log Kehte Hain Un Ko Relief Mil Raha Hai " Javed Latif
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00:00
What are you saying, Mr. Javed Lateef?
00:02
No one else in your Jama'at talks like this.
00:04
I don't remember the last time Mr. Nawaz Sharif made a policy statement,
00:06
or a political statement, or made a demand on this issue.
00:09
Mr. Nawaz Sharif is making a demand,
00:11
that these four people should come to Katera.
00:14
So his political weight will be many times more.
00:17
But he is not saying this.
00:19
Is there any political compulsion?
00:21
Then, Maria...
00:23
No, no Maria.
00:25
Then you must remember the Gujranwala Jalsa,
00:27
in which Mr. Nawaz Sharif took the names of these characters.
00:32
Then you tell me,
00:34
how many years have passed?
00:36
Many years have passed.
00:38
Till date, only one Adar has arrested one person.
00:43
The rest of the Adars...
00:45
But Mr. Nawaz Sharif has stopped taking the names.
00:47
Since 2022...
00:49
Since 2022, Mr. Nawaz Sharif has stopped taking the names of Mr. Bajwa.
00:52
So then you...
00:54
Listen to me.
00:56
Your information is limited in this regard.
01:01
He did not stop taking the names in 2022.
01:04
He took the names till 2024.
01:07
But why is he not taking them now?
01:09
This is the question.
01:10
The thing is,
01:12
Maria is not taking the names of the rest of the people,
01:14
or he is not saying,
01:16
that tell me,
01:18
that after 50 years,
01:20
the verdict of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto's case,
01:23
is that he has been treated unjustly.
01:26
After 8 years, you give relief to Mr. Nawaz Sharif,
01:30
and it seems that
01:32
Mr. Nawaz Sharif has been given relief.
01:34
Whereas he got justice.
01:36
And he got justice,
01:38
that till date, he is not ready to admit,
01:42
that he has been treated unjustly.
01:44
You give me justice after 8 years,
01:47
and you say that he has been given relief.
01:50
So how can I keep you out of this?
01:52
Mr. Imran Khan himself is making statements about his community.
01:55
Mr. Nawaz Sharif himself will make statements about your community.
01:58
We can see this difference.
01:59
Mr. Nawaz Sharif is not leading those statements.
02:01
Mr. Imran Khan will be wrong,
02:03
he will be right.
02:04
It is a separate debate.
02:05
He is leading it himself.
02:06
This is the difference.
02:07
No.
02:08
No, no.
02:09
No, no.
02:10
Maria, let me clarify this a little.
02:13
Mr. Imran Khan's statements,
02:17
whether they are Islamic or against the establishment,
02:21
these statements are made,
02:23
which he has hired a lobbying firm,
02:26
and they make it in Europe or America,
02:30
and give it to him,
02:31
and Masoof speaks on it.
02:33
Now come,
02:34
because he is speaking,
02:35
I will talk on it.
02:37
It is very clear to me,
02:39
that he has no fundamental position.
02:42
Okay.
02:44
But you have a fundamental position.
02:46
You have a fundamental position, sir.
02:48
You talk on your own.
02:49
You hire a lobbying firm.
02:52
You make statements properly.
02:54
You talk on your own.
02:55
He is doing it.
02:56
He is suffering.
02:57
He is in jail.
02:58
He is in a case.
03:01
Okay, if Maria allows me to say this,
03:05
do you expect me to lie the same way
03:10
people are making statements today?
03:13
Tell me,
03:14
on one hand,
03:15
you talk about jokes with those people,
03:17
whom you used to call corrupt,
03:19
and whom you used to call
03:21
the birthplace of Farm 47.
03:24
Today, they are at their feet.
03:26
And secondly,
03:27
tell me,
03:28
on the other hand,
03:29
you are saying that
03:30
on 16th December,
03:31
there will be a civil disobedience movement.
03:33
And why this civil disobedience movement?
03:36
You had asked a question,
03:38
that people will send money from outside.
03:41
Should they send it through the government?
03:43
Should they send it illegally?
03:44
You were asking this question.
03:46
But the thing is,
03:47
even in 2014,
03:49
Imran Khan had said
03:50
about civil disobedience.
03:52
Even then,
03:53
he had said that
03:54
money should be sent through the government.
03:55
At that time,
03:56
it was in 9th or 10th May.
03:58
And this is a wrong way of acting.
04:00
This is a wrong way of acting.
04:02
It should not be done.
04:03
Nations have their own structural mechanism.
04:06
They should be kept out of politics.
04:09
But my question is,
04:10
they are lying.
04:11
Their statement is wrong.
04:12
What they are doing with the state,
04:14
keep that aside.
04:16
And your truth,
04:17
in which you are saying that
04:19
these four people
04:20
will not go
04:21
until the civil disobedience is over.
04:23
PMLN is not able to talk about this.
04:25
You do this.
04:26
No one else is talking about this.
04:28
Look Maria,
04:30
I am saying that
04:33
it is unfortunate
04:35
that both sides
04:37
are not speaking the complete truth.
04:40
And both sides are beneficiaries.
04:43
Both sides,
04:45
if they want to get Pakistan out of this mess,
04:49
then they will have to speak the complete truth.
04:52
When you ask,
04:53
why does Mr. Nawaz Shiv not speak?
04:55
Mr. Nawaz Shiv does not speak because
04:58
until the complete truth is not spoken,
05:01
until the complete calculation is not done,
05:03
until the people who have made mistakes
05:06
are acknowledged,
05:08
then no one will believe.
05:10
Sir, no one will put you on a plate
05:12
and say,
05:13
Mr. Javed Lateef,
05:14
you have to lead these statements politically,
05:17
you did it in the past,
05:18
you gave respect to the vote,
05:19
and it was successful.
05:20
At this time,
05:21
if you lead this political statement,
05:23
then it will come into effect.
05:24
No one will put you on a plate
05:25
and give you all the justice.
05:27
He will not make a way for you.
05:28
If he makes a way for you,
05:29
then there is no need for us to do it.
05:32
No, no Maria,
05:34
you are right that
05:36
no one will put you on a plate and give you.
05:38
But tell me,
05:39
the people who,
05:41
for the protection of the law,
05:43
fought for justice,
05:47
what happened to them?
05:49
It is still happening.
05:51
Did Nawaz Sharif,
05:53
for the sake of justice,
05:55
suffer countless times?
05:58
And even today,
05:59
if it is said that
06:00
he is a beneficiary of this system,
06:02
then what can be done
06:04
to him more than this?
06:06
I say this,
06:08
the questions you are asking me again and again,
06:11
that no one will put you on a plate and give you,
06:13
then I expect from my state,
06:15
from my state institutions,
06:17
at least this expectation should be there.
06:19
Those who say that we have become apolitical,
06:21
they have become apolitical,
06:23
so at least one person,
06:26
you are charging,
06:28
you have put one person on a plate,
06:31
but the connection with him,
06:33
those who are connected,
06:35
in that scheme,
06:37
in that conspiracy,
06:39
you should at least bring them on a plate,
06:41
so that at least one case we see,
06:44
that it is decided on merit,
06:49
so that there is hope in the nation
06:51
and we can move forward.
06:53
Mr. Lateef, last question,
06:54
before concluding my segment,
06:56
the decision of the Supreme Court
06:58
to try the cases of the civilians
07:00
in the military court,
07:02
comment on this,
07:03
should this be done?
07:04
And what is said about Mr. Imran Khan,
07:06
that somewhere there is a threat
07:08
that he should not be tried in the military court,
07:10
should this be done?
07:11
What do you think about this?
07:12
Maria, tell me this,
07:14
and this too as a Pakistani,
07:16
that I am asking a question,
07:18
to you too,
07:19
and being a Pakistani myself,
07:21
I am daring to ask this question to you,
07:24
tell me this,
07:26
that in Pakistan,
07:28
if someone attacks the administration,
07:30
or the defence institutions,
07:34
then where is his trial?
07:36
And what is he called?
07:38
Is he called a terrorist or not?
07:40
Is he called an enemy of Pakistan or not?
07:43
And it has not been 18 months,
07:46
in fact it has been 18 months,
07:49
so the state is begging,
07:51
that the people who attacked me,
07:54
why didn't you put them in jail?
07:57
The state has been begging for 18 months,
07:59
that justice be done to me.
08:01
And you are seeing,
08:03
that there is international pressure,
08:05
the international groups are happy,
08:07
or not,
08:08
how much facilitation is there in Pakistan?
08:10
But Mr. Jawaharlal Nehru,
08:11
should he go to the military court,
08:12
or not?
08:13
A case of a civilian ruler,
08:15
I just want to know your position,
08:17
should he go?
08:19
When you,
08:20
when in your courts,
08:23
those who do 9th, 10th May,
08:25
will be called good to see you,
08:27
then tell me,
08:29
what will the state do?
08:31
Or what will be my and your wish?
08:33
So there is no other option,
08:34
other than going to the military court?
08:36
Will it be okay if this happens?
08:38
If there was another option,
08:41
then within 18 months,
08:43
justice would have been given to the state.
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