kya tehreek insaaf ke khilaaf bara operation honay ja raha hai ?Ather kazmi

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00:00What next? There are only two situations, two possibilities.

00:02Either the government thinks that they have tried their best,

00:08they didn't cooperate,

00:10Sanjani, if I'm pronouncing the name correctly,

00:15they didn't stop there, they came to D-Chowk,

00:17I've been saying Sanjani, Sanjani since yesterday,

00:19then I remember, that's an old story.

00:20So, they've come to D-Chowk as well,

00:22but they've failed now.

00:24Now, okay, we'll also do our part,

00:26we'll be strict with them.

00:29Or, they'll come now,

00:32they'll talk to us,

00:34we'll talk to them and find a way out.

00:36Which of the two do you think is more likely?

00:39The crackdown will be even stricter.

00:40Not to forget,

00:41that the assemblies are gathering resolutions

00:43to impose restrictions.

00:45Mr. Wawda is again making promises about restrictions.

00:47Are you getting any signals

00:48of a strict crackdown against PTI, Mr. Kazmi?

00:52Look, the crackdown is already happening

00:53with Pakistan's Tariq-e-Insaf,

00:55everyone can see that.

00:57Now, the government has not allowed

00:58Tariq-e-Insaf to come here.

01:00The workers of Tariq-e-Insaf

01:01have broken all the restrictions

01:03and come here.

01:04So, this is one thing to understand,

01:05that the government,

01:06they didn't have an angel's role in this,

01:09the people saw their indifference.

01:12The second thing is,

01:14what's next?

01:14They'll decide where we'll take things.

01:17Look, if you don't accept the court's decisions,

01:21you'll be in trouble in the elections,

01:23you won't be able to act on specific decisions,

01:26and when you're not ready to give them anything in the system,

01:29things automatically come to the streets.

01:31Just like the government is saying today,

01:33that Islamabad has opposed the High Court's decisions,

01:36so we're going to court.

01:38So, on the issue of Reserve C2,

01:40you should also agree with the Supreme Court's ruling.

01:43So, this is the issue,

01:44that as long as we don't stay within the system,

01:47on both sides,

01:48things will continue to go on like this.

01:49It's possible that a red light comes,

01:51and we stop for a while,

01:52but I feel that

01:54in 3-4 months, we'll be back to this position.

01:56And what do you think, Mr. Rana?

02:00I feel that,

02:01just like the Supreme Court in Punjab,

02:03brought down the corruption laws,

02:04and after that, the Punjab government,

02:06which was Mr. Buzdar's,

02:07did they make any decisions?

02:09What happened?

02:10These are special sessions,

02:11it's okay, the Election Commission will bring them back next week.

02:14The Supreme Court is here,

02:15let them act.

02:16We've been saying this for a long time,

02:17that when you get rid of the system for one party,

02:21then this is what will happen to you.

02:23If you bring them back,

02:24then why don't you put them in court?

02:26Those who don't agree,

02:27if you put them in court,

02:28then at least dare to do it.

02:29We all sit here and beat each other up.

02:32You will have to step back one step at a time.

02:35You have to use your last resort.

02:37I'm not saying that the PTI is going to end,

02:39or that restrictions are going to be imposed.

02:40The amount of effort you put in,

02:44when you had to talk about the committee,

02:46then you would have agreed.

02:48You were building a political path.

02:50Today, Imran Khan's terms have expired,

02:53the cases are due on 9th May.

02:54For him, for whom you are coming,

02:56you have put him in a difficult situation.

02:58He had a fight in his family,

03:00he had a fight in his party,

03:01and the people who fought him have left him.

03:04Shah Mehmood Qureshi is sitting here and saying,

03:06I'm sitting here too,

03:07ask me too, I've been doing politics for 50 years.

03:09Chaudhry Parvez Alai has been sitting at home for so many years,

03:12tolerating the circumstances.

03:13Did any of these people visit?

03:14These nine leaders,

03:16I'm saying this because they are at stake.

03:18All of them are saying,

03:19they are gone, let us go.

03:21That's what's going on right now.

03:22Is the ban on PTI just an incitement,

03:24or could it be something else?

03:25Last question, Mr. Rana.

03:28I don't think so.

03:29There is a lot of pressure,

03:31there is a story,

03:32there is a story of Governor Raj too,

03:33but I don't think these two,

03:34I don't think these two,

03:35Shabaz Sharif has come here for the first time in a fit of rage,

03:38I think whatever he has done,

03:38I think that's enough.

03:40Do you also think so, Mr. Rana?

03:41Mr. Kazmi?

03:43No, he has a government in one province,

03:45most of them are MNAs,

03:47so the ban on PTI means,

03:48that you are putting a ban on political action,

03:50it's not that easy.

03:52Right, thank you sir.

03:53Thank you very much to both the guests.

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