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Meeting the chefs behind Preston's best pizza
Lancashire Post
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13/12/2024
To cap off the grand finale of Lancashire Post Season 3 on Preston's top pizzas, we went down to Cafe Bar to meet the gentlement behind the city's best pepperoni pizza to find out what goes into their stellar food...
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After LPE Season 3 crowned the best pizza in Preston, we went down to meet Adoni and
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Atam at Cafe Bar on Winkley Street to learn their secrets.
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Right, so I'm here with the two gentlemen behind the Cafe Bar and I'm really pleased
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to say that they are the winners of Season 3 of LPE's for the best pepperoni pizza in
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Preston. So guys, I'd just like to give you this. Congratulations.
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Thank you very much, Jack. Thank you, Jack.
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You're welcome. Here we go. How about it?
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And so when we came round to see the Cafe Bar, guys, and to try the food, the main thing
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that stood out was just how authentic it is. So just talk me through, what makes an authentic
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pizza in your minds?
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In my opinion, the most important thing on a pizza is quality of ingredients, quality
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of sauces. The most important is the cheese, in my opinion. Since COVID and since Brexit,
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things have been harder to source, so each day it's harder and harder to keep consistency,
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keep the same cheese, keep the same toppings. Sometimes it's not necessarily a bad thing,
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because sometimes you can find a new product that you wouldn't have found another way.
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Pizza is also very important because it's shared. People can share a pizza, you can
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have it on your own, but most people like to share a pizza. So it brings people together,
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it's like a coffee, in my opinion. Coffee brings people together, pizza brings people together.
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Yeah. Do you think with things like the ingredients, you've mentioned how getting the small things
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right is really crucial, and do you think other places can almost, not disregard, they
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can forget about how important it is to do the smaller things right, build your fundamentals,
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and like you've said to me in the past, get good ingredients, good price, in a good location,
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and that's it. You've got a perfect kind of recipe.
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Yeah, I mean I was always told the secret to success is location, location, location,
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good quality food, good service, and a good price. It's easy to let one of them go by
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the wayside and neglect your service, neglect your quality, and you can easily go down a
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slippery slope, so you've got to constantly keep on it, constantly keep looking for new
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things, and yeah.
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And of course it's the experience, so many years, you know, we have the recipe for us,
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so many years, Mr. George teaches us many things, you know, and we keep the same, never
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left or right, straight to the same recipe.
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That's actually a very good point Adonis, it's not something new that we're doing, we've
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had this restaurant in our family for 30 years, my father opened it and now we're running
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it, and we learn from him, we learn from the best, so it's tried and tested, and we're
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just trying to continue, and make sure we continue the good name.
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You've been doing this a long time, do you still have the same love for it that you did
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at the start?
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We wouldn't do it if we didn't, so I'll give you one example, after Covid, Adonis, we're
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neighbours from Greece, he decided to go home, back to sunny roads, fast forward two years
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later and Adonis decided to come back, because we've got something pretty special here, me,
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Adonis and Mateos, we go way back, we were working on some of the busiest tavernas and
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restaurants in Greece, and we learnt a lot of great skills there, how to work, interact
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with people, and we tried to put that in here, so we want you to feel like you're on holiday
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when you come here, and we're quite proud of what we've got here.
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Exactly that we do, we want the people to feel like they're on holiday, I have many
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customers say to me, you know if I come to your place, I feel today I'm on holiday, and
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that's good for the people, you know, to escape a little bit from the reality, you know, coming
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here, listen to Greek music, little Greek jokes of course, you know, we're like a family,
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many people feel like a family.
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I bet you get a lot of really loyal customers as well, because they're made to feel so welcome
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when they come here, it's like a family, you must get a lot of people who have a weekly
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thing where they just come along every single week and it's part of just what they do with
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the family.
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You set your watch by some people in this place, we have our Saturday ladies, we have
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our Wednesday gals, we have our Golden gals, we've seen them, when I took over the restaurant
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in 2013, there were babies born that year, and now they're sort of adults, you know,
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teenagers.
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Yeah, that's beautiful, you know.
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It makes our job all the worthwhile when we hear the good feedback that we feel like we've
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been on holiday, and we get the same satisfaction here in Preston than we did in Rhodes, which
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is nice.
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So it's about people.
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We're people's people, we like people.
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100%.
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Right, talking about the pizza now, we've mentioned how important it is to get good
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quality ingredients from good quality suppliers, and obviously doing things to the recipe which
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you've had for so long, but you've also been judged as having the best pizza in Preston,
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so what do you think makes it special, aside from those things like you're saying in the
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ingredients, is it just the love that you put into it, is it the caring and attention?
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The dough.
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The dough does need a lot of attention and care.
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There will be times when you come on out of dough on a busy Saturday night, and you will
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be tempted to make it there and then and get them last few pizzas out.
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We will never do that.
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The dough is made today and it's used tomorrow.
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It needs time to grow, it needs time to ferment and build that taste.
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You've got to respect the dough.
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Once the dough is prepared, it's not manhandled in a certain way, it's lifted and treated
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with respect, because if it's handled in a certain way and too rough, you lose that
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flavour that you spend a lot of time trying to get in there.
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You'll lose that just by mistreating it.
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Because extra doping, you know, the doping, you can find everywhere, but all the secrets,
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if you know the restaurants have name about the pizzas, all the secrets is in the dough.
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100%.
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I think that's the thing which a lot of people might just push by the waistline and say it's
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just the base of the pizza, that's it, it's what's on top.
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You can find easy, you know, now in the market you can find any doping you like.
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You can buy a flower, but the thing is how you make the dough.
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Definitely.
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Talking about the kind of USP that you're looking to create at the restaurant, you've
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already spoken about how you want people to come and feel like they're on holiday here,
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but what part of that do you think keeps people coming back?
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Do you think it is the fact that it's a family affair, it's got the good quality food, is
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it just the whole experience, it's not just the food?
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Because we don't see the customers like the customers, you know.
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We know the names, we know his children, you understand me?
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Yeah.
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So that I think will make a big difference.
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You know I come before one week in England, in Preston, and the first one hour I've been
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in Preston, I go to say hello to all my friends, you know, the butcher in the open market,
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my barber.
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After two years, and everybody recognize me in a second, you know, hands, kiss.
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Give me a start at the beginning, if you don't kiss me, I'll march on the taxi machine.
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Even the postman comes here and gets a kiss, everyone gets a hug and a kiss here, it is
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that personal touch, it's a little bit different, a little bit different.
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And everybody here wants to come to work, that's, I don't know, you can't wait to come
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to work.
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It's like you say, you look forward to Wednesday, you look forward to seeing your Wednesday
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gals, Saturday, Saturday gals, it's...
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Brilliant, excellent.
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Well guys, thank you so much for speaking to me, congratulations again.
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It's a lovely spot you've got here, and congratulations on being the winners of Best Pizza in Preston.
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Thank you, it really does mean a lot, Dan, thank you very much.
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No worries.
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Cheers guys.
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