"Phone Tapping Na Pasandeeda Amal hai Magar..." Khurram Dastagir's Statement

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00:00Towards the end, I would like to talk briefly about the notification that has come that

00:05sensitive institutions will have the authority to make calls and tapes.

00:09Similarly, I was reading Owen Bennett Jones' book the other day.

00:13He writes about how in the early days, he invited other institutions,

00:19taking the name of the army, to check the meters and heaters of Wabda.

00:23And how later on, the same Mr. Bennett Jones kept regretting

00:27that the work of the civilian agencies was handed over to the military agencies.

00:31And later on, their intervention was so great that we lost everything,

00:34despite having two units.

00:35So, aren't we traveling in circles?

00:37I mean, if you complain after five years that,

00:39look, they have entered, there is no space, civil.

00:42So, you invite yourself.

00:44So, obviously, when you give someone space,

00:46then he fills the vacuum, rightly or wrongly.

00:48The thing you said about the Peoples' Party,

00:51it is a just thing that during the Peoples' Party government in 1996,

00:55a law was passed, which is called the Pakistan Telecommunication Reorganization Act, in 1996.

01:02Actually, at that time, under Article 54.1,

01:07this authority was given to the federal government by that law,

01:1128 years ago,

01:12that the government of loyalty, I read this,

01:14that notwithstanding anything contained,

01:16in the interest of national security,

01:19and in apprehension of any offense,

01:21the federal government may authorize any person or persons

01:24to intercept calls and messages,

01:28and to trace calls through any telecommunication system.

01:32This is that law, 28 years old,

01:35under which that notification was passed.

01:37So, what has changed since then?

01:38Its photo is still there.

01:39So, what has changed since then, if it already existed?

01:41No, what has changed is that,

01:44instead of giving authority to different agencies,

01:49the federal government, under Section 54.1 of the Telecommunication Reorganization Act,

01:55has authorized a specific agency,

01:57that only they can do this work.

01:59This is just a full notification.

02:01This is the result of this law, which was passed by the Peoples' Party government 28 years ago.

02:05Earlier, which agencies had this authority,

02:08which is now exclusively given to the ISI?

02:11Yes, this is not in my knowledge.

02:13But, in my opinion,

02:14there must have been notifications from time to time.

02:16This notification was made public.

02:18And, I also believe that,

02:20if such a public document is issued,

02:23then all these subjects,

02:25which were still hidden in the dust,

02:28well, after all,

02:29some or the other law has started to shine a light on it,

02:33which will make us capable,

02:35in the coming years,

02:36not just now,

02:37that the parliament,

02:39the intelligence agencies,

02:41and such related matters,

02:43can also monitor them,

02:44as it is done in other countries.

02:46So, you are saying that,

02:47in a way,

02:48this has been reformed,

02:49that if such a thing happens,

02:51data leakage,

02:52then at least,

02:53there will be a law,

02:54which can be referred to,

02:55and in the years and months to come,

02:56someone can be held accountable,

02:58that sir, this law has been violated.

03:00Yes, look,

03:01this Act of 1996,

03:03this was hidden in the dust,

03:05no one knew about it.

03:07When this thing,

03:08this SRO came out,

03:10people searched for it,

03:13I also searched for it,

03:15where did this notification come from,

03:17all of a sudden?

03:18So, this was told,

03:19and then today,

03:20I am happy that,

03:21in the parliament,

03:22even the law,

03:23by quoting this law,

03:25presented its interpretation.

03:28So, when all the things will be transparent,

03:31and instead of these rumours,

03:33and rumours against each other,

03:35now if this thing has become public,

03:37then this is the first step,

03:39with time,

03:41towards which we want to go.

03:43In the whole world,

03:44such agencies,

03:45this authority is given,

03:47and its procedure is improved.

03:49The procedure is that,

03:50any agency,

03:51every federal government,

03:53has a designated judge,

03:55in front of that designated judge,

03:57that agency takes its petition,

03:59that we have to monitor these people,

04:01and if the judge thinks that this is right,

04:03then he gives permission,

04:04if he does not think so, then no.

04:05So, in your opinion,

04:06this is a very happy presentation.

04:07This does not happen in other countries.

04:09This is a very happy presentation.

04:10I am not saying that,

04:11I am not, see,

04:12phone tapping can never be happy,

04:15this is an unpleasant practice,

04:17but in any case,

04:18this is necessary,

04:19and in today's time,

04:20when a lot of communication,

04:22is happening electronically,

04:24on mobile phones,

04:26or through the internet,

04:27phones are being used,

04:29in that it is necessary

04:30that this work should be done.

04:31I have said that

04:32all the agencies of the world

04:33are doing this work.

04:34I just think that

04:35instead of us being alarmed,

04:36now the matter,

04:37now everyone knows about

04:38the Telecom Organization Act,

04:40everyone knows about

04:41the work that is being done.

04:43In the coming years,

04:44even if not in today's parliament,

04:46if some people are interested in this,

04:49and really want

04:50that there should be

04:51a serious discussion on this,

04:52then we have achieved

04:53a starting point.

04:55A starting point.

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