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  • 8/20/2023
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00:00 So, Hamid Mir sir, first of all, what is your assessment to the President of Pakistan
00:04 that why is it necessary to tweet this from his personal account?
00:07 Because I have seen that when there are unsigned bills, he keeps tweeting from his official account.
00:13 Look, to get an answer to this, first of all, you tell your viewers
00:17 what is the date of this Gazette notification?
00:20 It is 18th August, 2023.
00:23 We can show this on the full screen.
00:24 So, today's date is 20th August.
00:27 If this Gazette notification was issued on 18th August,
00:31 then the President must have got to know about it yesterday.
00:35 My information is that he was asking the day before yesterday
00:40 that the bills that I had sent back, they left.
00:44 So, the day before yesterday, he was being told that they left.
00:47 But when he got to know about the Gazette notification yesterday,
00:50 he was a little worried.
00:52 And then when he talked to some of his staff again,
00:56 he got to know that they had done some mischief with me
01:01 and they sent it back late.
01:06 Okay?
01:07 It was not sent back within the specified time frame,
01:09 but it was sent back late, both the bills.
01:11 And then today, when Shahabud Kuraishi was arrested yesterday,
01:15 and today, Asad Umar was also arrested,
01:17 and the media also said that he was arrested under the Official Secret Act.
01:25 So, he realized this and he confronted some of his staff again on Sunday.
01:32 And after that, he did this with his personal account.
01:36 I think, I personally talked to some legal experts,
01:40 I don't see any confusion in this.
01:43 This is a straightforward matter that President Arif Alvi had received these two bills.
01:48 There were many other bills as well.
01:49 He thought that these bills,
01:51 there are some things that are still questionable,
01:53 that should be removed, but because he thought that the assembly period was ending,
01:58 and because he was a politician before,
02:01 he did politics on his own,
02:03 that send it back, the assembly period will end,
02:06 the bill will be lapsed and nothing will happen.
02:08 But maybe his staff did not follow his instructions,
02:14 which is an illegal act.
02:16 And when the President felt that now he has been used,
02:22 and he did not follow his instructions,
02:23 he told the world through a tweet.
02:26 I think this is a gazette notification,
02:30 but if you keep the law of Pakistan in front of you,
02:35 and if you do a very honest investigation,
02:38 then these two laws are questionable,
02:40 and any final decision about them will be taken by the court.
02:43 The matter is that the politicians repeatedly send their issues to the court.
02:48 We have seen for the last one and a half years,
02:50 what is the political issue that the politicians have solved themselves.
02:53 I do not remember, whether it is the Punjab Assembly,
02:55 or the Fakir Assembly, or the assembly,
02:58 whatever these matters are.
02:59 Another technical debate is that,
03:02 the bills before this,
03:03 the President wrote down his exact reasons and objections,
03:07 and sent back the bills.
03:08 On this, verbally, he gave empty instructions.
03:11 Now these bills are of such a serious nature,
03:13 maybe he did not find it appropriate to write them.
03:15 This is also the reason.
03:17 He verbally said, "Let's do it, let's do it, let's do it."
03:20 "And this should not be recorded."
03:21 So, is there any importance of verbally saying,
03:24 is there any legal standing,
03:25 that you send it back,
03:26 and if it is sent or not sent,
03:28 will the court accept it as a witness?
03:30 We can talk about all these things.
03:33 And on this, the interpretation of Article 75,
03:37 on that, very serious and very legal questions can arise.
03:43 That, if the President of the country,
03:45 signs it without sending it,
03:47 then the assent,
03:50 the procedural acceptance of those bills,
03:55 can we construe that it has been done?
03:59 But, at the same time, Article 75 is quiet,
04:02 on whether this acceptance has been done or not.
04:06 I see in all these matters,
04:09 that the way we are running the state of Pakistan,
04:15 the situation that has been going on for the past year and a half,
04:18 the constitutional crisis, political crisis,
04:22 economic crisis that has been created,
04:25 in all this, we have lost a lot.
04:28 And now, the country,
04:31 I am sad to use this word,
04:33 but we are moving towards implosion.
04:37 There is no such institution of the state,
04:39 whose sanctity is still intact.
04:41 If you look at the judiciary, the constitution,
04:43 the parliament, the political parties,
04:46 everywhere you will see such a state of panic,
04:50 that no one knows what will happen tomorrow.
04:54 And all of us stakeholders, in all this situation,
04:58 we are not able to come together,
05:02 we are not able to end this crisis,
05:04 this crisis is getting deeper every day.
05:06 And the victims are the people of this country.
05:10 This political uncertainty,
05:12 you can see where your economy is standing today.
05:15 A foolish person can expect,
05:19 that in this political uncertainty,
05:20 that in a country where there is no sanctity of the constitution,
05:24 in a country where there is no sanctity of the constitution,
05:27 that the government system,
05:28 which has to be elected after 90 days,
05:31 will there be elections or not?
05:34 Or judges are fighting among themselves,
05:38 or there is a visible grouping,
05:40 will someone invest in that country?
05:42 You will see what reaction your stock market will give tomorrow.
05:46 So the role we have to end this political uncertainty,
05:49 we are completely immersed in this power politics,
05:55 that those parties,
05:56 now these bills,
05:57 like Mir sahab said,
05:59 the democratic credentials of our political parties,
06:04 there is a big question on them.
06:06 But they don't care about the consequences of the bills we have passed.

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