Kashif Abbasi and Meher Bokhari's expert analysis on "Caretaker PM and general elections 2023"

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00:00 The first impression was that if a professional came, then the matter could be delayed.

00:05 But now a politician has come forward.

00:07 A politician has been elected as the Nigrah Vizier-e-Azam.

00:12 So, are you seeing the elections being held on time?

00:14 The decision on the elections is too early.

00:19 As you were saying in the previous segment.

00:22 First, Shah Mehmood Qureshi's speech,

00:25 Shah Sahib did not outrightly reject it.

00:29 He said that he is a good person and we should keep meeting.

00:32 A general impression that everyone is giving about Kakar Sahib,

00:36 and everyone agrees on this,

00:38 that you will not get much voice against Kakar Sahib,

00:42 that he is unacceptable, he is a very bad person,

00:45 no one knows him, people know him, people keep meeting him.

00:49 Because people spend a lot of time in Islamabad with Kakar Sahib,

00:51 and people tend to like him.

00:53 And I think that Shah Mehmood Qureshi's speaker,

00:55 or the one who spoke to you,

00:57 I get the impression that he is not very angry or unhappy

01:01 that a name has come forward which is outrightly rejected by the Tariq-e-Insaf.

01:05 He certainly said that we should not meet.

01:07 I told him that we will see the elections,

01:09 we will decide whether we should praise him or not.

01:11 If he has made a clear election, we will praise him.

01:13 If not, then we will obviously criticize Kakar Sahib,

01:17 Shah Mehmood Qureshi or Tariq-e-Insaf.

01:19 But look, the time of the elections,

01:22 we saw the elections of Punjab and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa being held on time.

01:25 And he has given this answer to this debate.

01:30 Now, before every election, this debate will begin,

01:33 whether the elections will be held on time or not.

01:35 When you violate the constitution once,

01:39 and put it in the trash bin,

01:41 then that is the beginning,

01:43 and people end it on their own will.

01:45 This is now in the hands of some other politician,

01:48 maybe it has been announced,

01:50 that those decisions that you make,

01:52 when will the elections be held,

01:54 you open a door or a door,

01:56 the door is closed only with time.

01:58 And I am very sorry to say that

02:00 it is such an unfortunate thing,

02:02 that all those politicians who put slogans of democracy in Pakistan,

02:05 they have opened this door,

02:07 opened this door,

02:09 after which today, an election,

02:11 which is a routine election,

02:13 which should have been held at a certain time frame,

02:16 and the debate is still going on,

02:18 whether the elections will be held or not.

02:20 All the politicians are doing this.

02:22 The economic experts have not come,

02:24 if they had come, we would have been sure

02:26 that the elections would not be held on time.

02:28 It is such an unfortunate thing,

02:30 that a country like,

02:32 I was saying in the previous segment,

02:34 that a constitution is written,

02:36 we are not following an unwritten constitution like the British,

02:38 we are not following a constitution,

02:40 we are following a written constitution,

02:42 which is giving you all the time frames,

02:44 and today we are talking about whether the elections will be held on time,

02:46 or the elections will not be held on time,

02:48 and the elections will be held on time.

02:50 The people's party,

02:52 I was talking to a friend,

02:54 who is a constitutional expert,

02:56 he said that the assembly we broke three days ago,

02:58 if you go to the Supreme Court,

03:00 the Supreme Court will question

03:02 the motives of this assembly,

03:04 and will ask what is the reason,

03:06 that the three delegates,

03:08 who are going to make a time frame,

03:10 had a thought,

03:12 that the people's party,

03:14 which is a constitutional party,

03:16 will not be able to make a time frame,

03:18 they had a thought,

03:20 that if the elections,

03:22 like if the elections commission comes after two or three years,

03:24 they need time for preparation,

03:26 for which they need three months,

03:28 but this preparation is complete,

03:30 so this is not logic,

03:32 but still let's do it in three months,

03:34 they have given a latitude,

03:36 let's use that,

03:38 and I hope that the elections are not cancelled,

03:40 but when you went to the CCI,

03:42 and proved the census,

03:44 and the census,

03:46 and proved the census,

03:48 and once the threshold of three months,

03:50 was crossed,

03:52 and the restriction,

03:54 which is imposed by the constitution,

03:56 was crossed,

03:58 the fear is that after the threshold is crossed,

04:00 no one will be able to do anything,

04:02 they will go for three months,

04:04 and no one will be able to control this,

04:06 this is the real fear,

04:08 which is the reason,

04:10 why the elections are not being held,

04:12 which is not happening.

04:14 Mr. Ashok has joined us,

04:16 let's talk to him,

04:18 Mr. Hassan, you have repeatedly said on ARY,

04:20 that the names that are being run,

04:22 no one will be elected,

04:24 but the Nigrahan Vazir-e-Azam,

04:26 will be from a small province,

04:28 and the same happened,

04:30 that the name of Anwar-ul-Akkar was mentioned,

04:32 for the Nigrahan Vazir-e-Azam.

04:34 Yes, thank you very much,

04:36 may Allah keep my sources,

04:38 so I was confident about this,

04:40 that these people,

04:42 the names that are being run,

04:44 no one from them will be the Nigrahan Vazir-e-Azam,

04:46 the day people started giving congratulations,

04:48 on the name of Jaleel Abbas Jilani,

04:50 so even then,

04:52 it was known,

04:54 that this will be their connection,

04:56 with Balochistan.

04:58 Anyway,

05:00 the matter is,

05:02 the choice that has been made,

05:04 it has been done by chance,

05:06 and as Mr. Kakar is saying,

05:08 they are from the Baap party,

05:10 all political parties,

05:12 have voted on their name,

05:14 all political parties,

05:16 before their election,

05:18 they were taken in confidence,

05:20 and after taking,

05:22 because the fame,

05:24 that they have,

05:26 can be said,

05:28 that they are a capable personality.

05:30 Mr. Hassan, there was no doubt,

05:32 but what is the reason,

05:34 that we did not see Anwar-ul-Akkar's name,

05:36 being heard anywhere,

05:38 48 hours before the election?

05:40 Anwar-ul-Akkar's name,

05:42 was kept hidden,

05:44 on purpose,

05:46 because,

05:48 many names,

05:50 were being made,

05:52 on the basis of wishes,

05:54 many people were wanting,

05:56 that their name should be,

05:58 on the media,

06:00 for the fame of their company.

06:02 But, Anwar-ul-Akkar's name,

06:04 was discussed,

06:06 and if I tell you,

06:08 according to the information,

06:10 he had met,

06:12 with the leadership of,

06:14 Muslim League Noon,

06:16 and probably,

06:18 he met with,

06:20 Maryam Nawaz Sharif,

06:22 and he had a good impression,

06:24 on all political parties,

06:26 and the Peoples party,

06:28 and Muslim League Noon,

06:30 and Jamait ul-Islam,

06:32 and Anklum.

06:34 And, they have their consent,

06:36 on their name.

06:38 So, basically, he is a doer,

06:40 a capable person,

06:42 and for the interim period,

06:44 he was a doer,

06:46 because, the future of Pakistan,

06:48 the economic situation,

06:50 keeping that in mind,

06:52 he was elected.

06:54 His team,

06:56 has done some homework,

06:58 on the selection of the team,

07:00 and Anwar-ul-Akkar,

07:02 who will announce his cabinet,

07:04 and the information is,

07:06 that some political figures,

07:08 will be made,

07:10 a part of his cabinet.

07:12 Now, let's see,

07:14 if the final decision is made,

07:16 but the information is,

07:18 that some names,

07:20 are already known,

07:22 by the media,

07:24 and the nation,

07:26 and such people,

07:28 will be made,

07:30 the elections will be,

07:32 after the delimitation,

07:34 whether it goes to the Supreme Court,

07:36 or not.

07:38 In both cases,

07:40 the elections,

07:42 will be held,

07:44 after the notification,

07:46 and after that,

07:48 the 54 day election,

07:50 will be held,

07:52 and the elections,

07:54 will be held,

07:56 in January,

07:58 and if the elections are held,

08:00 later than that,

08:02 then it will be held,

08:04 in March,

08:06 and the elections will be held,

08:08 and the situation is,

08:10 that the elections will not be held,

08:12 and that is not true,

08:14 the elections will be held,

08:16 after the delimitation,

08:18 and the election commission,

08:20 will announce the program.

08:22 Okay, so the elections will be held,

08:24 but after the delimitation.

08:26 Anwar ul Haq Kakar's name has been finalized,

08:28 for the Nigrah Wazir-e-Azam.

08:30 What will you say?

08:32 Yes, it was quite unexpected,

08:34 out of the blue,

08:36 the expectations,

08:38 and the names the Jamaats were forwarding,

08:40 the name of Anwar ul Haq Kakar,

08:42 was not finalized, so it is quite a surprise,

08:44 you have become a senator,

08:46 from Balochistan,

08:48 in 2018,

08:50 and your term will end in March 2024,

08:52 which is interesting,

08:54 because before the elections,

08:56 it is very important,

08:58 to have the elections done.

09:00 So, in a situation,

09:02 which was quite unexpected,

09:04 but it is good,

09:06 that the Wazir-e-Azam was elected,

09:08 from a small province.

09:10 Anwar ul Haq Kakar,

09:12 those who know him,

09:14 he is a very nice person,

09:16 he is an avid reader,

09:18 he is very fond of reading books,

09:20 he is very articulate,

09:22 and he has good relations with everyone,

09:24 he has also

09:26 headed many standing committees,

09:28 the senate standing committees,

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