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00:00Our Constitution makes that very clear.

00:02Defamation is not protected by the First Amendment.

00:04And if it's impacting Michelle Obama or anybody else,

00:07they have a right to access our court system and have a trial.

00:10In our system, that's the way we determine truth or falsity.

00:13We do it in court. We do it with rules.

00:15We do it with legal standards.

00:16And it's a place where evidence matters.

00:18And that's why we've taken Candace to court,

00:20where we can actually have a trial on the truth.

00:23You're asking for punitive damages.

00:24How much money do you want, and do you want her to apologize?

00:27Well, we'd love an apology, of course.

00:30The court can't order her to apologize.

00:32And based on her conduct, especially today,

00:34we don't expect her to do anything other than double down.

00:37We'll put forward our damage claim at trial.

00:39But if she continues to double down between now and the time of trial,

00:42it'll be a substantial award.

00:43Well, can you give me an idea?

00:44Are we talking about, I mean, the last time you were involved in something,

00:48the settlement was $787.5 billion.

00:51That was Fox News for their many, many lies about Dominion Software, Fox News.

00:58But are you looking for that kind of settlement?

01:00She doesn't have $787.5 million.

01:03Well, you look at what happened with Alex Jones.

01:06Juries understand.

01:07Juries understand that there is an inherently large value to somebody's reputation.

01:11And if you're going to say these vile things,

01:13and if you're going to repeat them to a significant audience, as she has,

01:15she has over 5 million followers, and her lies have metastasized into actual publications.

01:21So we see other publications that pick up on it, and they report on it.

01:24And when you ask them, when we reached out to them and say,

01:26what's your basis for this, they point back to her.

01:28What are the other publications?

01:30They're detailed in the complaint.

01:32We've seen Newsweek, New York Post, and others have pointed to her

01:35as the source of their reporting on this.

01:37But they're asserting it as if it's true based on what Candace Owens is saying?

01:41They repeat what Candace has said, and they cite her as a source.

01:45And so when they fall back on her, but she is at the epicenter of this campaign.

01:48That's why we picked her.

01:49That's why we're going for her, is because she is the one whose lies are metastasizing

01:53and they're spreading.

01:54And she, under our system of defamation, is liable for all those republications.

01:58Are you not worried at all that the fact is that this is a disturbed individual,

02:03Candace Owens, who loves attention, loves the fact that we're talking about her on CNN?

02:08She doesn't, whatever happened to her as a child,

02:10like she doesn't care that the attention's negative, she just likes it?

02:13Yeah.

02:14And you're bringing her more?

02:15Yeah.

02:16I mean, it obviously goes into the mix, and we did not do this as our first choice.

02:20But, Jake, if that mindset allowed the Macrons to sit back,

02:25that's how disinformation takes root.

02:27That's how disinformation wins, is you've got to take that first step,

02:30and you've got to take a principled step.

02:31And I applaud the Macrons for their courage in taking this on.

02:34All right, Tom Clarence, thanks so much for being here.

02:36French President Emmanuel Macron and his wife Brigitte are suing right-wing podcaster and

02:41conspiracy theorist Candace Owens.

02:44The defamation lawsuit filed today in Delaware claims that Owens has engaged in a, quote,

02:48relentless and unjustified smear campaign against the couple.

02:50The complaint goes on to allege that Owens spread outrageous conspiracy theory,

02:54that France's first lady could be a man,

02:59that the Macrons are related in committing incest,

03:02and that the Macrons, the couple, is being controlled by the CIA.

03:07Obviously, those are deranged claims.

03:11In response to the filing, Owens posted a screenshot of a news story about the lawsuit on her Instagram page

03:17and wrote,

03:18I will be coming for this wig today.

03:21Stay tuned.

03:22Owens has, of course, a history of all sorts of deranged conspiracy theories

03:27and vile anti-Semitic rhetoric.

03:29She was temporarily suspended from YouTube for anti-LGBTQ comments.

03:34Joining us now to discuss is Tom Clarence, the lawyer for the Macrons, Emmanuel and Brigitte.

03:39And we should note that if people recognize you,

03:41they might remember you from the Dominion case suing Fox News for defamation,

03:46which resulted in a $787.5 million settlement from Fox, but who's counting?

03:51So the lawsuit claims that this has been a year-long campaign by Candace Owens.

03:57Why are the Macrons suing now?

03:59Like, what changed?

04:01Why sue now?

04:02Well, this was really a last resort.

04:05We have attempted to engage with her for the last year,

04:07putting evidence in front of her,

04:09request after request after request,

04:11that she just simply do the right thing.

04:12This is not a legal thing.

04:14Do the right thing.

04:15Tell the truth.

04:16Stop spreading these lies.

04:17And each time we've done that, she mocked the Macrons.

04:20She mocked our efforts to set the record straight.

04:22She refused to retract what she had said.

04:26She started a merch campaign.

04:28She's selling T-shirts, mocking and celebrating her defamation of them.

04:31And enough is enough.

04:33It was time to hold her accountable for this campaign.

04:36So your lawsuit alleges, quote,

04:38every time the Macrons leave their home, they do so knowing

04:41that countless people have heard and many believe these vile fabrications.

04:45It is invasive, dehumanizing, and deeply unjust.

04:50Some people out there might think,

04:51really, the first couple of France can't leave their home in France

04:55without worrying that people believe the deranged nonsense

04:59from this American podcaster?

05:01Yeah.

05:02What people don't really understand,

05:04and a lot of people can go on TV and talk about the president,

05:06talk about the first lady, you know,

05:08pundits can get on and talk about them.

05:10But what people forget is these are human beings.

05:12These are a married couple.

05:13They have a social life.

05:16They have a private life together.

05:18They have the same feelings and the same hurt

05:20from these sorts of defamatory statements as anybody would.

05:23And it does have a material impact on them.

05:25It is, you know, it's incredibly upsetting to have this said year after year.

05:29And this sort of falsehood is a cancer.

05:32And it metastasizes into, obviously, the media,

05:35but it also metastasizes into other circles that they're running in.

05:39They get asked about it, of course,

05:40even in the circles that they run in.

05:42They get asked about these campaigns,

05:44and they shouldn't have to go through that.

05:45It's pretty horrible.

05:46I mean, she also engages in Holocaust denial and all sorts of anti-Semitism.

05:50She just posted a video reacting to the lawsuit.

05:53She calls it a, quote,

05:54obvious and desperate public relations strategy.

05:57What's your response?

05:59Well, first of all, I'd like to thank her for that reaction to the lawsuit.

06:01She's only helping us with our claim for punitive damages by expressing no remorse

06:06and obviously doubling down on these falsehoods.

06:08But I don't think she's going to feel the same way about this being a public relations stunt

06:12after her deposition and after she has to sit for trial.

06:15So you're alleging that Candace Owen made these allegations despite knowing that they were false.

06:19I don't know that she knows they're false.

06:22I mean, she says a lot of crazy, just completely insane, hateful stuff about Jews, about the Holocaust,

06:31about, like, I don't know what she knows to be true or not.

06:33She says a lot of lies.

06:35How do you know that she's lying as opposed to a deeply disturbed individual?

06:39Well, it's one of you.

06:49That she knows it's false.

07:03We put, we allege that there's evidence that she knew it was false

07:05when she started this campaign over a year ago.

07:07She started relying on things she knew were discredited.

07:10But then, over the past year, when we have put this information directly in front of her,

07:14even if you want to give her a pass for the early crazy stuff that she said,

07:18after we put facts and information in front of her, black and white, multiple times.

07:23Like what? Like the first lady's birth certificate? Like what kind of facts?

07:27Yeah, we have laid out extensive evidence in our complaint demonstrating that she was born a woman,

07:33she's always been a woman, and the allegations of CIA control conspiracy

07:37and the incest and all the other things are demonstrably false.

07:41Putting aside the fact that they are all inherently implausible,

07:45what you said at the outset is obviously really important.

07:47In our system, if you're making an inherently implausible allegation,

07:51the standard is higher.

07:52You have to come forward with better evidence if you're going to say it.

07:55She has none of it.

07:56All she's done is mocked them and ridiculed them and repeated it.

07:58There are a bunch of these hate mongers out there that have been saying the same thing

08:02about Michelle Obama, the former first lady of the United States.

08:05Do you think she should sue?

08:06Well, I haven't looked at her claim,

08:08but I believe that everybody has a right to their reputation,

08:12and I think our Constitution makes that very clear.

08:15Defamation is not protected by the First Amendment,

08:18and if it's impacting Michelle Obama or anybody else,

08:21they have a right to access our court system and have a trial.

08:24In our system, that's the way we determine truth or falsity.

08:27We do it in court.

08:27We do it with rules.

08:28We do it with legal standards, and it's a place where evidence matters,

08:31and that's why we've taken Candace to court

08:34where we can actually have a trial on the truth.

08:37You're asking for punitive damages.

08:38How much money do you want, and do you want her to apologize?

08:41Well, we'd love an apology, of course.

08:44The court can't order her to apologize,

08:46and based on her conduct, especially today,

08:48we don't expect her to do anything other than double down.

08:51We'll put forward our damage claim at trial,

08:53but if she continues to double down between now and the time of trial,

08:56it'll be a substantial award.

08:57Well, can you give me an idea?

08:58I mean, the last time you were involved in something,

09:02the settlement was $787.5 million.

09:05That was Fox News for their many, many lies about Dominion Software, Fox News.

09:12But are you looking for that kind of settlement?

09:14She doesn't have $787.5 million.

09:16Well, you look at what happened with Alex Jones,

09:19and there are significant...

09:20Juries understand.

09:21Juries understand that there is an inherently large value to somebody's reputation,

09:25and if you're going to say these vile things

09:26and if you're going to repeat them to a significant audience, as she has.

09:29She has over 5 million followers,

09:31and her lies have metastasized into actual publications.

09:35So we see other publications that pick up on it,

09:37and they report on it,

09:38and when you ask them,

09:39when we reached out to them and say,

09:40what's your basis for this?

09:41They point back to her.

09:42What are the other publications?

09:44They're detailed in the complaint.

09:45We've seen Newsweek, New York Post,

09:47and others have pointed to her

09:49as the source of their reporting on this.

09:51But they're asserting it as if it's true

09:53based on what Candace Owens is saying?

09:55They repeat what Candace has said,

09:57and they cite her as a source.

09:58And so when they fall back on her,

10:00but she is at the epicenter of this campaign.

10:02That's why we picked her.

10:03That's why we're going for her

10:04is because she is the one

10:05whose lies are metastasizing and spreading.

10:07And she, under our system of defamation,

10:10is liable for all those republications.

10:12Are you not worried at all

10:14that the fact is that this is a disturbed individual,

10:17Candace Owens,

10:18who loves attention,

10:19loves the fact that we're talking about her on CNN?

10:21And she doesn't, whatever happened to her as a child,

10:24like, she doesn't care that the attention's negative.

10:26She just likes it.

10:27Yeah.

10:27And you're bringing her more?

10:29Yeah.

10:29I mean, it obviously goes into the mix,

10:31and we did not do this as our first choice.

10:34But, Jake, if that mindset allowed the Macrones to sit back,

10:39that's how disinformation takes root.

10:41That's how disinformation wins,

10:42is you've got to take that first step,

10:44and you've got to take a principled step.

10:45And I applaud the Macrones for their courage

10:47in taking this on.

10:48All right, Tom Clarence, thanks so much for being here.

10:50French President Emmanuel Macron and his wife Brigitte

10:53are suing right-wing podcaster

10:55and conspiracy theorist Candace Owens.

10:58The defamation lawsuit filed today in Delaware

10:59claims that Owens has engaged in a, quote,

11:01relentless and unjustified smear campaign against the couple.

11:04The complaint goes on to allege

11:06that Owens spread outrageous conspiracy theory,

11:08that France's first lady could be a man,

11:13that the Macrones are related in committing incest,

11:16and that the Macrones, the couple,

11:18is being controlled by the CIA.

11:21Obviously, those are deranged claims.

11:25In response to the filing,

11:27Owens posted a screenshot of a news story

11:29about the lawsuit on her Instagram page

11:30and wrote,

11:32I will be coming for this wig today.

11:34Stay tuned.

11:35Owens has, of course, a history

11:37of all sorts of deranged conspiracy theories

11:40and vile anti-Semitic rhetoric.

11:43She was temporarily suspended from YouTube

11:44for anti-LGBT comments.

11:47Joining us now to discuss is Tom Clare,

11:49the lawyer for the Macrones,

11:51Emmanuel and Brigitte.

11:53And we should note that if people recognize you,

11:55they might remember you from the Dominion case,

11:57suing Fox News for defamation,

12:00which resulted in a $787.5 million settlement

12:03from Fox, but who's counting?

12:05So the lawsuit claims

12:07that this has been a year-long campaign

12:09by Candace Owens.

12:11Why are the Macrones suing now?

12:13Like, what changed?

12:14Why sue now?

12:16Well, this was really a last resort.

12:18We have attempted to engage with her

12:20for the last year,

12:21putting evidence in front of her,

12:23request after request after request,

12:25that she just simply do the right thing.

12:26This is not a legal thing.

12:28Do the right thing.

12:29Tell the truth.

12:30Stop spreading these lies.

12:31And each time we've done that,

12:32she mocked the Macrones.

12:34She mocked our efforts to set the record straight.

12:36She refused to retract what she had said.

12:40She started a merch campaign.

12:41She's selling T-shirts,

12:42mocking and celebrating her defamation of them.

12:45And enough is enough.

12:46It was time to hold her accountable

12:49for this campaign.

12:50So your lawsuit alleges, quote,

12:52every time the Macrones leave their home,

12:54they do so knowing that countless people have heard

12:56and many believe these vile fabrications.

12:59It is invasive, dehumanizing,

13:01and deeply unjust.

13:03Some people out there might think,

13:05really, the first couple of France

13:07can't leave their home in France

13:09without worrying that people believe

13:11the deranged nonsense from this American podcaster?

13:15Yeah.

13:16What people don't really understand,

13:18and a lot of people can go on TV

13:19and talk about the president,

13:20talk about the first lady.

13:21You know, pundits can get on and talk about them.

13:23But what people forget is these are human beings.

13:26These are a married couple.

13:28They have a social life.

13:30They have a private life together.

13:31They have the same feelings and the same hurt

13:33from these sorts of defamatory statements

13:35as anybody would.

13:37And it does have a material impact on them.

13:39It is, you know, it's incredibly upsetting

13:41to have this said year after year.

13:43And this sort of falsehood is a cancer.

13:46And it metastasizes into, obviously, the media,

13:49but it also metastasizes into other circles

13:51that they're running in.

13:52They get asked about it, of course,

13:54even in the circles that they run in.

13:56They get asked about these campaigns,

13:57and they shouldn't have to go through that.

13:59It's pretty horrible.

14:00I mean, she also engages in Holocaust denial

14:02and all sorts of anti-Semitism.

14:04She just posted a video reacting to the lawsuit.

14:07She calls it a, quote,

14:08obvious and desperate public relations strategy.

14:11What's your response?

14:12Well, first of all, I'd like to thank her

14:14for that reaction to the lawsuit.

14:15She's only helping us with our claim

14:17for punitive damages by expressing no remorse

14:19and obviously doubling down on these falsehoods.

14:22But I don't think she's going to feel the same way

14:24about this being a public relations stunt

14:26after her deposition and after she has to sit for trial.

14:29So you're alleging that Candace Owen

14:30made these allegations despite knowing

14:32that they were false.

14:34I don't know that she knows they're false.

14:36I mean, she says a lot of crazy,

14:39just completely insane, hateful stuff

14:42about Jews, about the Holocaust, about, like,

14:45I don't know what she knows to be true or not.

14:47She says a lot of lies.

14:48How do you know that she's lying

14:50as opposed to a deeply disturbed individual?

14:53She could be both, of course.

14:55It's one of the reasons why our complaint

14:56is 219 pages long.

14:58We wanted to lay out exactly that.

15:00We wanted to explain to the court,

15:02and we wanted to explain to the people

15:03that will see our lawsuit

15:04how we can prove that she knows it's false.

15:07We put, we allege that there's evidence

15:09that she knew it was false

15:10when she started this campaign over a year ago.

15:12She started relying on things

15:13she knew was discredited.

15:15But then, over the past year,

15:17when we have put this information

15:18directly in front of her,

15:19even if you want to give her a pass

15:20for the early crazy stuff that she said,

15:23after we put facts and information

15:24in front of her, black and white,

15:27multiple times.

15:27Like what?

15:28Like her, like the first lady's birth certificate?

15:30Like what kind of facts?

15:31Yeah, we have laid out extensive evidence

15:33in our complaint demonstrating

15:35that she was born a woman,

15:37she's always been a woman,

15:39and the allegations of CIA control conspiracy

15:42and the incest and all the other things

15:44are demonstrably false.

15:46Putting aside the fact

15:47that they are all inherently implausible,

15:49what you said at the outset

15:50is obviously really important.

15:52In our system,

15:53if you're making an inherently implausible allegation,

15:55the standard is higher.

15:57You have to come forward with better evidence

15:59if you're going to say it.

15:59She has none of it.

16:00All she's done is mocked them

16:01and ridiculed them and repeated it.

16:03There are a bunch of these hate mongers out there

16:05that have been saying the same thing

16:06about Michelle Obama,

16:08the former first lady of the United States.

16:09Do you think she should sue?

16:11Well, I haven't looked at her claim,

16:13but I believe that everybody

16:15has a right to their reputation,

16:17and I think our Constitution

16:19makes that very clear.

16:20Defamation is not protected by the First Amendment,

16:23and if it's impacting Michelle Obama

16:25or anybody else,

16:26they have a right to access our court system

16:27and have a trial.

16:28In our system,

16:29that's the way we determine truth or falsity.

16:31We do it in court.

16:32We do it with rules.

16:33We do it with legal standards,

16:34and it's a place where evidence matters,

16:36and that's why we've taken Candace to court

16:39where we can actually have a trial on the truth.

16:41You're asking for punitive damages.

16:43How much money do you want,

16:44and do you want her to apologize?

16:46Well, we'd love an apology, of course.

16:49The court can't order her to apologize,

16:51and based on her conduct, especially today,

16:52we don't expect her to do anything

16:54other than double down.

16:55We'll put forward our damage claim at trial,

16:57but if she continues to double down

16:59between now and the time of trial,

17:01it'll be a substantial award.

17:02Well, can you give me an idea?

17:03Are we talking about,

17:04I mean, the last time you were involved in something,

17:07the settlement was $787.5 billion.

17:09That was Fox News

17:10for their many, many lies

17:12about Dominion Software, Fox News.

17:16But are you looking for that kind of settlement?

17:19She doesn't have $787.5 million.

17:21Well, you look at what happened with Alex Jones,

17:23and there are,

17:25juries understand,

17:26juries understand that there is

17:27an inherently large value

17:29to somebody's reputation,

17:30and if you're going to say these vile things,

17:31and if you're going to repeat them

17:32to a significant audience,

17:33as she has,

17:34she has over 5 million followers,

17:36and her lies have metastasized

17:37into actual publications.

17:39So we see other publications

17:41that pick up on it,

17:42and they report on it,

17:43and when you ask them,

17:43when we reached out to them and say,

17:45what's your basis for this?

17:46They point back to her.

17:47What are the other publications?

17:49They're detailed in the complaint.

17:50We've seen Newsweek,

17:51New York Post,

17:52and others have pointed to her

17:54as the source of their reporting on this.

17:56But they're asserting it as if it's true

17:57based on what Candace Owens is saying?

17:59They repeat what Candace has said,

18:02and they cite her as a source,

18:03and so when they fall back on her,

18:05but she is at the epicenter of this campaign.

18:07That's why we picked her.

18:08That's why we're going for her,

18:09is because she is the one

18:10whose lies are metastasizing and spreading,

18:12and she, under our system of defamation,

18:14is liable for all those republications.

18:16Are you not worried at all

18:18that the fact is

18:19that this is a disturbed individual,

18:22Candace Owens,

18:23who loves attention,

18:24loves the fact that we're talking about her on CNN?

18:26She doesn't,

18:27whatever happened to her as a child,

18:28like, she doesn't care

18:29that the attention's negative.

18:31She dislikes it?

18:32Yeah.

18:32And you're bringing her more?

18:33Yeah.

18:34I mean, it obviously goes into the mix,

18:36and we did not do this as our first choice,

18:38but, Jake,

18:40if that mindset allowed the Macrons to sit back,

18:44that's how disinformation takes root.

18:46That's how disinformation wins,

18:47is you've got to take that first step,

18:49and you've got to take a principled step,

18:50and I applaud them.

18:52Got 99 things.

19:02Conspiracy theorist Candace Owens.

19:04The defamation lawsuit filed today in Delaware

19:06claims that Owens has engaged in a, quote,

19:08relentless and unjustified smear campaign

19:10against the couple.

19:11The complaint goes on to allege

19:12that Owens spread outrageous conspiracy theories,

19:15that France's first lady could be a man,

19:19that the Macrons are related in committing incest,

19:23and that the Macrons, the couple,

19:25is being controlled by the CIA.

19:27Obviously, those are deranged claims.

19:31In response to the filing,

19:33Owens posted a screenshot of a news story

19:35about the lawsuit on her Instagram page

19:37and wrote,

19:39I will be coming for this wig today.

19:41Stay tuned.

19:42Owens has, of course,

19:43a history of all sorts of deranged conspiracy theories

19:47and vile anti-Semitic rhetoric.

19:49She was temporarily suspended from YouTube

19:51for anti-LGBT comments.

19:54Joining us now to discuss is Tom Clare,

19:56the lawyer for the Macrons,

19:58Emmanuel and Brigitte,

19:59and we should note that if people recognize you,

20:01they might remember you from the Dominion case,

20:04suing Fox News for defamation,

20:06which resulted in a $787.5 million settlement from Fox,

20:11but who's counting?

20:12So the lawsuit claims

20:13that this has been a year-long campaign by Candace Owens.

20:17Why are the Macrons suing now?

20:20Like, what changed?

20:21Why sue now?

20:22Well, this was really a last resort.

20:25We have attempted to engage with her for the last year,

20:28putting evidence in front of her,

20:30request after request after request,

20:31that she just simply do the right thing.

20:33This is not a legal thing.

20:34Do the right thing.

20:35Tell the truth.

20:36Stop spreading these lies.

20:38And each time we've done that,

20:39she mocked the Macrons.

20:40She mocked our efforts to set the record straight.

20:43She refused to retract what she had said.

20:46She started a merch campaign.

20:48She's selling T-shirts,

20:49mocking and celebrating her defamation of them.

20:51And enough is enough.

20:53It was time to hold her accountable for this campaign.

20:57So your lawsuit alleges, quote,

20:58every time the Macrons leave their home,

21:00they do so knowing that countless people have heard

21:03and many believe these vile fabrications.

21:05It is invasive, dehumanizing, and deeply unjust.

21:10Some people out there might think,

21:11really, the first couple of France

21:14can't leave their home in France

21:16without worrying that people believe

21:18the deranged nonsense from this American podcaster?

21:21Yeah, what people don't really understand,

21:24and a lot of people can go on TV

21:25and talk about the president,

21:27talk about the first lady,

21:28you know, pundits can get on and talk about them.

21:30But what people forget is,

21:31these are human beings.

21:32These are a married couple.

21:34They have a social life.

21:36They have a private life together.

21:38They have the same feelings and the same hurt

21:40from these sorts of defamatory statements

21:42as anybody would.

21:43And it does have a material impact on them.

21:45It is, you know, it's incredibly upsetting

21:48to have this said year after year.

21:50And this sort of falsehood is a cancer.

21:53And it metastasizes into, obviously, the media,

21:55but it also metastasizes into other circles

21:58that they're running in.

21:59They get asked about it, of course,

22:01even in the circles that they run in.

22:02They get asked about these campaigns,

22:04and they shouldn't have to go through that.

22:06It's pretty horrible.

22:07I mean, she also engages in Holocaust denial

22:09and all sorts of anti-Semitism.

22:11She just posted a video reacting to the lawsuit.

22:13She calls it a, quote,

22:14obvious and desperate public relations strategy.

22:18What's your response?

22:19Well, first of all, I'd like to thank her

22:20for that reaction to the lawsuit.

22:22She's only helping us with our claim

22:24for punitive damages by expressing no remorse

22:26and obviously doubling down on these falsehoods.

22:29But I don't think she's going to feel the same way

22:31about this being a public relations stunt

22:33after her deposition and after she has to sit for trial.

22:35So you're alleging that Candace Owen made these allegations

22:38despite knowing that they were false.

22:41I don't know that she knows they're false.

22:43I mean, she says a lot of crazy,

22:45just completely insane, hateful stuff

22:49about Jews, about the Holocaust, about, like,

22:51I don't know what she knows to be true or not.

22:53She says a lot of lies.

22:55How do you know that she's lying

22:56as opposed to a deeply disturbed individual?

23:00It could be both, of course.

23:01It's one of the reasons why our complaint is 219 pages long.

23:05We wanted to lay out exactly that.

23:07We wanted to explain to the court

23:08and we wanted to explain to the people

23:10that will see our lawsuit

23:11how we can prove that she knows it's false.

23:14We put, we allege that there's evidence

23:15that she knew it was false

23:16when she started this campaign over a year ago.

23:19She started relying on things she knew was discredited.

23:21But then over the past year,

23:23when we have put this information directly in front of her,

23:25even if you want to give her a pass

23:27for the early crazy stuff that she said,

23:29after we put facts in...

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