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00:00all right so you know sam what's your take on what's going on in illinois um you know a couple
00:03of the different operators sped mgm hard rock are raising the minimums on on sports bets like
00:11my theory i think is completely wrong my theory was that they were just tired of people dropping
00:16a buck and throwing down like 20 team parlays i i'm probably wrong on that because they want money
00:23but what what am i missing here with this you know i definitely don't think you're completely wrong
00:29that's always part of it if they can get people to bet more they will bet bet mgm just announced a
00:34250 minimum for any bet and hard rock the same thing with a two dollar minimum but this all comes
00:40because uh it's only in illinois so this all becomes because the state has uh chosen to raise sports
00:45betting taxes tremendously over the past year uh they just added a new 25 cent per bet fee to every
00:53bet that an operator will take and then after the first 20 million uh of bets that an operator takes
01:00that increases to 50 cents so uh if you're bet mgm or hard rock you want people to bet larger amounts
01:06because then part of that is going to go in the fee you get to keep more of the money we saw draft
01:11kings and fanduel introduced their surcharges which essentially just passes the fee directly to the
01:16customer now interestingly enough uh draft kings and fanduel are the only companies that qualify for that
01:22kind of higher 50 cent per bet fee that's why you haven't seen the other companies do it but um
01:27it's going to be a case of we we're going to see how betters respond is this going to change their
01:31behavior i tend to agree with you craig that i think that kind of people are just going to bet
01:36uh you know two dollars instead of one it's not that big of a difference and the companies at the
01:40end of the day while they are absorbing you know a higher tax burden it's also going to allow them to
01:45kind of get away with um you know taking more bets and squeezing more money out of people which
01:50at the end of the day is all kind of what this comes down to for the sports books uh certainly
01:54other states will be watching we've seen plenty of others consider raising their tax rates but
01:59illinois is going to be a really great test case where we see these new policies actually implemented
02:03that change the betting behavior and then we'll have to see how that actually impacts things and
02:08kind of where we go from there across the rest of the country

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