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Murdered.By.S01E02.Stabbed.In.The.Back
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00:00a 20 year old man lies in a pool of blood I just didn't know who had done it or how they've done
00:08it or why they've done it he's starting to lose consciousness it leaves the police struggling
00:14for answers that's probably one of the biggest frustrations which policing faces is that you
00:21know that someone's lying to you there's nothing you can do about that and a family struggling to
00:27survive we all felt really sick and no one's telling the truth of what happened they're
00:33just barefaced lying that's painful something doesn't add up someone's dead someone's been
00:44stabbed but they don't know who's done it
00:57emergency which service okay an ambulance please our friend just turned up at our house yeah he's been
01:11stabbed and he's shooting blood all over the floor he's bleeding out big time hello he is basically
01:18he came back he went out and he came back he's been jumped by five people and he's came in here
01:22he's actually fine next thing you know he's dropped the floor it is seriously it is it is a big big cut
01:29he's like the rolling one of Sam's other best friends is panicking my partner how close is the
01:37ambulance is not playing games I made you see now on my floor and I'm getting stressed the police have
01:44just turned up okay what's his name please it's just before three o'clock in the morning and Sussex
02:07police are responding to the 999 call yeah Chappie's in the kitchen at the moment on the floor recovery
02:24position he's been tended to at this time so far come in the kitchen about 10 minutes
02:29okay you know where he's been stuck whereabouts you've been stabbed in this house it's not day
02:39for you he's still conscious uh shallow breathing he's been intended to by officers and ambulance yet
02:44to look them soon preservation of life is is what rules any any policing so that's the first thing
02:50that we do so that's why officers went in first of all and tried to and see what resuscitation or
02:55what they could do with with Sam but he's been very sick quite a lot of blood and he's starting to
03:04lose consciousness minutes later the ambulance crew arrives the atmosphere inside the flat was quite
03:14tense Sam's friends were shouting things you know please don't let him die please but it's at that
03:22point where we where we then kind of switch from we've got someone else now looking after saving that
03:27person and we can now look at what we're faced in terms of a crime scene and and witnesses there
03:32sorry he's he's turned up yeah yeah was he here right yeah he's gone out and come back
03:38but he's been jumped yep had slugged all over him and then dropped and then he just dropped 10 minutes of being in the kitchen
03:46he just dropped any idea where he might have gone no idea okay he literally said he was leaving
03:51okay did he get any phone calls text but uh it would appear that uh whatever's happened has happened out in the
03:58street somewhere and he's come back to this address uh in the state that he's in now um i've just got
04:03in contact with my mom because obviously the tall lady said that we can't be at some point you're gonna
04:08have to go so we can treat this as a crime scene it's really important to gather all of that information
04:13evidence as quickly as possible people talk about kind of a golden hour uh within when an incident
04:18occurs and because otherwise you can lose evidence so quickly so gathering all of that is vital to any
04:24investigation they need to do as much work as they can while he's on the floor there's no point in
04:28moving him if he's not ready to go right no what's in all of my pals he died in my arms mate they're
04:35doing everything they can for him i promise you everything he's my best friend yeah i feel that
04:40right sam get out please push the past family to the best skin of the present i want to give him a
04:47cuddle bud tell you what i swear on my child's life i'm gonna kill them whoever's done this to my pal
04:54i'm going to kill them three two one ventilate the clock is ticking and sam urgently needs specialist care
05:04we did get a heartbeat back on sam that was our window to get sam out of the flat and take him to
05:09the hospital we were hoping that sam being such a young man would survive this injury
05:14meanwhile officers tracked down sam's mum about half past five in the morning police knocked on the
05:23door to tell me that sam had been stabbed and they were going to take me up the hospital
05:28but i didn't think it was serious just because you don't think of your child dying i thought he'd
05:34just been stabbed in the hand or the arm or something i thought he'd been attacked and stabbed
05:39by someone he didn't know at six o'clock in the morning i got a strange phone call from sean
05:44and i was like well that's a bit random it's really it's really early why sean calling so i answered and
05:52she was like hayley don't panic and i was like what she was like sam's being stabbed got to the hospital
05:59put in a little room and the doctor come in said that sam had been stabbed in the stomach in the side
06:06and that it didn't look good but they were doing everything they could and then he left and i just
06:12sat there feeling numb come back in and i said to him he's gone hasn't he and he said yeah i knew he'd
06:22gone and sean just looked at me and she was like he's gone and i was like where's he gone she was like
06:30he's dead i was like no no he's not you're being silly she was like no he's gone i just felt numb
06:37totally numb didn't have any feelings at all just totally numb i was still numb probably didn't want
06:45to believe it sam dies at 6 45 a.m from a single stab wound to his abdomen all i wanted to do was just
06:55to hold his hand and just start bring him back it's sort of like what you see on tv you don't
07:03think that it's ever going to happen to you we didn't even know why we didn't no one was telling
07:09us anything we couldn't we couldn't figure it out
07:11tanya jones is the senior investigating officer on the case
07:20sam's four friends are brought in for questioning
07:24we spent days looking at all of the cctv and house to house and any witnesses and it was quite
07:32a built-up area so that was a very time-consuming parts of the investigation
07:36police begin to piece together exactly what happened that night
07:44sam's friends told officers that he'd been attacked in the street
07:48we spent a large amount of time trying to track down those individuals
07:58and get their accounts there's quite a few shops and fast food outlets so we looked at all of that
08:05cctv we didn't know if something had kind of kicked off or started earlier on the evening
08:10which would then result in the stabbing this could be the breakthrough they're looking for
08:16but there's still no sign of the knife attack
08:18already stretched the police search further and further away from where sam was found
08:25then they unearthed some shocking new cctv
08:30taken only eight minutes before the call for an ambulance
08:34we had footage of sam bounding up the stairs into the flat and for us that that was that was quite
08:44a turning point sam arriving at his friend's flat uninjured meaning there's only one place he could
08:49have been stabbed if he's been stabbed in the flat we know that one of those four friends are
08:53responsible for stabbing sam
09:06sam caulfield from crawley west sussex has been stabbed to death
09:10the friends he was with were saying he was attacked on the street
09:14he was here before right yeah any idea where he might have gone no idea he lives he said he was
09:21leaving but police unearthed cctv showing sam arriving at the friend's flat seemingly unharmed
09:29police haven't found the murder weapon they arrest and question his four friends
09:35macaulay lawless jessica roberts leah delgado and john mitchell
09:42thomas mackintosh a local journalist is one of the first on the scene
09:51i got a phone call i tip up from a contact who said that the car park in asda had been cordoned off
09:57which is quite unusual because the car park's massive
10:00so just where the shopping trolley bays were um one cordon was up towards there
10:06all the way down across majority of the asda car park
10:09and cordon then sort of focused all the way down here towards spencer's road
10:15closing off that side and as i came down there you can tell that they were focusing on the
10:20the block of flats just here
10:22murders in any local newspaper are probably the biggest story that you're going to cover in
10:30a short space of time and it's such a high profile crime
10:34i didn't realize it was a the scale of the murder investigation until i saw the police
10:39cordon for myself and how big it was so essentially this is what they taped off
10:43it's the cordon cut across from here
10:47all along you have one police officer who was standing here a couple of police cars that were
10:53stationary there two officers inside the house and a couple more forensic trucks that pulled up
10:59throughout the day the sort of adrenaline kicks in that this is a huge story and this is something
11:04that you can make a name for yourself in your career it's very quiet cool the sack area not many
11:11people were coming here it was mainly just residents coming going as they were and it was me who was
11:16telling them that there'd been a fatal stabbing we don't know how the stabbing had come to place
11:20how it came to be and i guess that's what made the police's job so difficult in hindsight
11:33with the new cctv the police focus moves from a random street stabbing
11:37to investigating what happened inside the flat
11:43so when sam's come back to the flat describe to us what was he doing what was he saying
11:47tell us a bit about what people were doing in the flat
11:52why did one of sam's friends become his killer
12:00hayley hillier first met sam at school and they had a daughter millie may
12:05who was just 18 months old when sam was killed bringing up millie may
12:09that's painful too because all she does is daddy or her new things like let's play hide and seek and
12:20she does she she'll run around and she'll just be daddy daddy where's daddy and then she'll stop and
12:25she'll be like daddy's gone now so this is supposed to be his home so where's he gone
12:30i don't know
12:38sam was lovable full of life full of energy loved being center of attention a right poser for the camera
12:50sam had a happy childhood he loved sport and was passionate about fitness
12:55and he loved music and cooking
13:01he had a brother dan who was five years older than him but they were close
13:08sam did well at school in his early years
13:12but when sam was six years old he was diagnosed with adhd
13:16which was when things started to go wrong for him
13:25it wasn't until we was the end of school is when he started to sort of get into trouble
13:31he would do anything like to become part of something and i think that did get him in a lot of trouble
13:39the trouble that sam got him was like just silly teenage stuff
13:46he wants the love of my life and i know it's young people say you can't feel love but you do when
13:52you meet someone you know you just know you click i've always been really insecure about myself
13:58because he was really confident he was so yeah um the bees knees um you know god's gift
14:05he brought that out in me a little bit and it just it just worked it was perfect
14:11we suited each other like barbie and ken if you like i suppose
14:16found out quite early that i was pregnant with millie may we were shocked but it was the best decision
14:21that we made
14:24at the hospital when she was first born tears rolled down his face
14:31it was just fantastic we took her out and he wanted to push the buggy he always wanted to push
14:36push her around just to show people that millie was his sam always wanted a family he always wanted
14:43something to call his own where someone can't take it away from him she was just like his little present
14:49that had got given over 10 christmases
14:51millie may she's absolutely gorgeous it's just like sam full of life full of energy she was his
15:02world he was an absolute doting dad that's when sam decided he had to do something positive with his
15:10life he wanted to start his own business even with a small child sam kept close to his friends
15:16sam made friends really easily he was a really lovable person i think people just warmed to him
15:23they would become friends with different groups of people and he'd he'd just choose the easiest
15:29groups he made friends real quick um because he always wanted people to like him so he sort of
15:36followed the crowd if you like so people would be like oh yeah you can be my friend
15:42i think that was the beginning of it all and then you just find the easiest way to make money and
15:47then it just spiraled down the wrong people at the wrong time but little did he know that one of the
15:53four people that he befriended would become his killer sam had been living at this locker flats for a few
16:01months it appears that he had a good relationship with with those four people i think they'd met through
16:06um a social group outside of that they were quite regularly in in and out of each other's flats and
16:12texting and meeting up any idea where he might have gone no idea he literally said he was leaving
16:18we knew of macaulay lawless we knew of john metro you have jessica roberts and leo delgado were the
16:23four people who were inside the flat at the time there was very little that we knew about what was going
16:30on what was said or who these people were what their rules were macaulay's friend of yours he's
16:34a friend of my partner he was just having a little not gathering but you weren't even yeah i don't drink
16:44sam's four friends have been arrested for his killing
16:52the police question sam's friends separately but they're still sticking to their story that the attack
16:57happened in the street and not in the flat the first thing you said to the officers was he came
17:03up the stairs and stabbed up can you confirm that we're calling clients can exercise his right to
17:09silence throughout this interview do you know if there was anyone that had any um problems with sam
17:14like whether there were any ongoing problems or arguments or any sort of bad blood or anything like
17:20that we all felt really sick um the fact that no one's telling the truth of what happened they're
17:30just barefaced lying and that's painful and it reaches you right from the bottom of your stomach
17:42the police need to add pressure if they're going to get one of sam's friends to crack
17:47he's gone into the kitchen tell me what happened when he went into the kitchen
17:52you know of everyone that was there it sounds like you're the one that you might have confided in or
17:56said something to about what happened to him you know being a grass being a slitch doesn't come into
18:01it jess his family deserved to know what happened but they still are missing a crucial bit of evidence
18:07the knife he was killed with quite often we don't necessarily find a murder weapon we're not normally
18:12on scene so quickly as someone still dying um that we've got everything so contained so within this
18:18case it was really important to find that weapon we knew that it was a knife we knew it couldn't have
18:23left the flat and actually not to have found it would have left quite a hole in our investigation
18:30if they don't find the knife the killer could walk free
18:33there was a very methodical search which was um completed of the of the flat we've secured the
18:41scene but then it takes you quite a long time to go through each room we found a knife which had been
18:47hidden underneath the sofa and that was sent off for forensic examination we were really keen to get
18:54um the results back from from that knife
19:01without any answers as to who killed sam his family is struggling to come to terms with his death
19:07even now they say time heals it doesn't time doesn't heal anything really the pain is always there always
19:16i couldn't mourn sam not to start with brought us all together we're in constant contact with each
19:23other and meeting up with each other um letting off balloons that was really sweet especially on his
19:31birthday because he died before his 21st birthday my beautiful sam rest easy love you always
19:40sam my brother for life you saved mine and i'll never forget yours love you bro
19:46is that young love you too sam love you so much miss you too rest in peace basil of mom okay ready
20:06i love that they're all sticking together that's become like a tradition now obviously we let them off
20:13at his birthday as well and the anniversary has just become a a tradition to do and all of us to do
20:20together to send them up to him really
20:29before too long there's a new development in the case the forensic results on the knife come in
20:36that came back to say that there was um sam's and blood on the knife and there was also jessica
20:42roberts and john mitchell's and dna on that knife it wasn't the breakthrough that we were kind of
20:47waiting for because it didn't prove clearly who had been with the person responsible for stabbing sam
20:56this was jessica roberts flat and john mitchell had been staying with her so putting that in front of a
21:02jury they could quite well say of course their dna should be on there because they use those knives
21:07all the time in their flat the police focus seems to be moving away from macaulay lawless
21:13and leah delgado where did that knife come from jess that knife that was used to murder sam
21:21how did that knife that we believe was used to kill sam happen to be in your flat why would somebody
21:27stab Sam but even faced with sam's blood on the knife none of sam's friends were saying anything
21:34do you know what happened to him what reason would somebody have to do this to sam
21:42they happened in your flat what can you tell me it's nothing when we've got um people who will know
21:49know each other and are being arrested for the same offense is you've potentially got more loyalties
21:55there around the family and friends we don't know what was happening outside of when they were in
21:59police custody and what conversations we're having and and if they were still speaking to each other
22:04say we need to stick to this story they were saying that it happened outside the flat but they just
22:09kept lying so if you got stabbed in the flat how did that happen who did it what were the other people
22:17being in the flat i felt awful i just didn't know who had done it or how they'd done it or why they'd done it
22:30on the 29th of july sam's body was brought to brighton crematorium
22:34no one thinks of burying the child i don't think that you have to plan your own child's funeral
22:49i couldn't believe the amount of people that turned up we got him horse and carriages because
22:54he loved horses and his his friends um actually carried the coffin into the chapel
23:00this just seems like a blur it was such a hard day it was for me personally it's the first funeral
23:07i've ever been to so i didn't know how to act myself um i felt intrusive at times but
23:15i knew at the time i was there to be doing a job sam's funeral was beautiful sam wasn't a sad
23:21person and he wouldn't have wanted everyone to be sat there crying and sobbing like he'd
23:25he'd want you to actually be there remembering him for the good times and actually not sat there
23:31crying over him because you know he lived his life good up until when he went and that's all that
23:36matters you know the chapel inside the crematorium was absolutely rammed standing almost outside into
23:42the to the courtyard very emotionally you could see how many people sam had met and influenced and how
23:49deeply he was going to be missed there was one moment where and melanie went up to some flowers
23:57that were laying out seeing daddy and she turned around and she looks directly at the camera lens and
24:02the photographer got the photo spot on she was an angel for sam it's only fair for my little girl to
24:10know the absolute truth when she's older sam caulfield has been stabbed to death well of blood and uh he's
24:28starting to lose consciousness the murder weapon is found under a sofa one of sam's four friends must
24:35also be his killer go so we can treat this to the quarantine what did all of my pals get died in my
24:41arms he's been stabbed in this house but the police are still struggling to get his friends to say
24:47who stabbed sam so if what happened to sam happened to him in the flat was it a knife that came from
24:53the flat during that questioning we were putting to them saying we've got irrefutable evidence now that
25:02he was stabbed inside the flat which means one of you must have done that was it one of the people
25:08that was there when the police and the ambulance got there or was it somebody else and if it happened
25:12there then you would know the answer to that question what does the weapon look like who handled it
25:19they kept with the accounts that they had um previously and and didn't give us any further information
25:25whatsoever you've got four people who are potentially standing up for a murder charge
25:37and everything's indicating that one person has done it who's standing with jess no comment was it you
25:43do you know of anyone who would have such a problem with him that they'd be willing to stab him we
25:57were hoping that someone would talk to us but they didn't asking for facts strongly
26:06and describe for me how it was that sam ended up with a stab wound that eventually has killed him
26:13we knew that they all knew what had happened and yet no one was willing to tell us and that was
26:21frustrating for us and probably even more so for sam's family hold my hand oh look it's muddy hold on
26:33come on then
26:37yeah go to the swings
26:43the best parts that millie probably enjoyed is going to the park that always went to the park
26:49ready whoa yeah she was wonderful with him she knew who her daddy was always by his side
26:57and we talk about him all the time even to millie because she has to know hold on
27:03hold on to the sides she has to know what her dad was all about he will always be a part of our lives
27:08that's it it's all right it's okay it moves mommy's here are you gonna go down the slide steady
27:16ready
27:19and her most frequent word is daddy she says that all the time she likes to play with him although he's not here
27:36the police need answers from sam's friends any idea what caused the injury what weapon was used
27:46where have you got the injury in the flat how did that happen who did he say he'd been with
27:52did you touch the weapon but still none of them were saying who killed him
27:57how do you know that no one else in the flat stabs up if he wasn't stabbed up when he came in that
28:07makes me think well he must have been stabbed after he came in tell me what happened no comment
28:12it's something we were really mindful of is it was not having sufficient evidence
28:17and whether or not i was going to be able to get justice for the family that's something which
28:20was very much the forefront of my mind despite the mounting evidence the suspects still stuck to
28:26their story sam has died and we do want to get to the truth that's probably one of the biggest
28:34frustrations which policing faces is that you know that someone's lying to you there's there's nothing
28:39you can do about that and they stick to their account and all you can do is find all the information
28:43the evidence around it to disprove it where did that knife come from jess that knife that was used
28:49to murder sam at last officers get some news we had a breakthrough in the case when we had a call
28:59from leo de garda's solicitor saying that she wanted to speak to us again potentially now we've got someone
29:08who is being classed by the police as a suspect and wanting to give us information either as a
29:14suspect or potentially as a witness this was the lead the police have been waiting for
29:22and it comes in months after sam was stabbed in that flat by one of his four friends
29:28they've all stuck to their story that sam had been stabbed before he arrived at the flat
29:33but finally leah delgado too frightened to come forward before has had a change of heart
29:50i mean if you're in that situation and you're in a room with someone that's just stabbed someone and
29:56killed them i would be scared not that i'm saying what she done with lying to the police was right but
30:02i would be scared too because well you don't want the same thing happening to you if you go and
30:06tell the truth but leah couldn't hold the secret forever leah finally gives her new statement to
30:15the police i think she actually done it on sam's 21st birthday as well it was sort of like her birthday
30:22gift to sam to say sorry for what happened and sorry the fact that she had let it go on for
30:28so long and that my little girl would be able to know the truth fully about what happened
30:33to her dad and we was grateful and we were sort of desperate to get into that courtroom and hear
30:38what she had got to say for herself groups of friends stick together one another when they're
30:43faced against police they stick together with friends but the moment it hits a trial
30:47they stop having each other's backs
30:53in september 2017 sam's four friends are brought to hove crown court to stand trial
31:00john mitchell and macaulay lawless face charges of murder and all four face charges of perverting
31:05the course of justice you're always nervous around it because um you know you've done a very thorough
31:11investigation but when you've got um four defendants with their individual barristers looking
31:16through and pulling apart each piece it's something you're always nervous about to make sure that
31:20there isn't something you've missed
31:24at this um trial the atmosphere was very tense we had family and friends from all four defendants
31:31plus sam's family and friends there i went to the trial never done that sort of thing before
31:38and didn't know what to expect
31:43listen to the evidence was really hard as the prosecution put forward their case
31:48sam's family and friends watched the cctv for the first time seeing sam when he's alive
31:55there is last moments before he died so if you want to grab him from the camera and sort of bring him
32:03back and then take him away and not ever go back there again
32:11the four friends stick to their original story
32:17that sam was attacked in the street
32:21they all seemed genuinely scared and worried macaulay he had tissues and um scrunched them in the palm of his
32:30hands and held them quite tight and he was quite fidgety and was like leaning his posture wasn't very
32:38very good at all and jess was exactly the same she pulled her sleeves down um to her hands and clenched
32:45it with tissue and leah she was just she was different she had her arms open lean on the side
32:53uh she stood straight and dressed really smart and she was just a normal girl just like me if you like
33:04according to the prosecution sam and macaulay had been arguing about drugs
33:09one hypothesis could be that sam had stolen some drugs and either not return them or not return the
33:16cash that should have come in its place and potentially that is what has caused the murder of sam
33:23finally leah takes to the witness stand leah delgado um took the sand and and gave a very full account
33:30of everything that had happened um that evening leah said to us that she had seen macaulay lawless
33:37withdrawing the knife from sam that she'd seen um macaulay lawless handing the knife to john mitchell
33:47who'd wiped the knife and then handed it to jessica roberts leah delgado said that um it was something
33:56she couldn't live with that lie and that if that had been a member of her family she would have
34:01expected someone to come and come forward and tell the truth i would say it was it was a brave thing to
34:09do to come in to speak to us to tell us that and that was the piece of evidence that made me a lot
34:14more confident but forensic evidence hasn't been pointing to macaulay lawless we never got mcaulay
34:23lawless's dna on the knife although quite often you can touch or handle something for a brief period of
34:29time and not not necessarily leave any dna on there and but we still had this witness who was saying to
34:34us i've seen him pulling a knife out of sam leah was the one that changed her statement and told the
34:42truth which could have caused her serious consequences but she done it because she knew that otherwise
34:54that was going to be on her conscience for however long when it comes to his defense macaulay lawless goes
35:02on the attack blaming sam i watched macaulay lawless give his evidence at a court and his account that
35:10he gave was that there'd been an argument beforehand there was a knife flying in the kitchen he had seen
35:17sam looked to the knife and he felt it was best for him to pick up the knife before sam did and then he
35:24stabbed him i think when you compare his reaction in the flats that we've got in the body cam video
35:32which is shouting i'm gonna get whoever did this to my friend and then you've got someone giving
35:42evidence at court saying actually none of that's happened at all i think that's really telling them
35:46and i'm sure the jury would have been able to see the truth
35:49when macaulay was cross-examined he does have a little girl and it was actually her birthday
36:01on the day that he was cross-examined and at that point i i just wanted to jump up
36:07and scream him because well you don't deserve to have anything to do with your child and rightly so
36:13she doesn't deserve to have a dad like you neither it's just it's so sad that more than one kid has
36:20had their parents taken away from them through their own fault it's just not fair on them i feel
36:27for everyone that's in this sort of in this position and the only person that i blame for all of this is
36:34calling finally family and friends are getting closer to justice the trial was harrowing it was hard
36:47and it was three to four weeks of just non-stop information things that we didn't know footage
36:55that we'd never seen statements that we'd never heard there was so much to it and the waiting to
37:04find out the verdict was just the worst
37:16sussex police had been investigating a reported street stabbing
37:21yet the victim sam caulfield died from a single stab wound
37:25from near the outset it's been a difficult murder investigation to follow for the police um there
37:32were numerous leads that i was aware that they were following and then they get hold of the cctv and find
37:38out that he wasn't stumbling in so something's not right something doesn't add up something's happened
37:45someone's dead someone's been stabbed but they don't know who's done it
37:49the murder must have happened inside the flat but none of his four friends are saying what happened
37:57finally one of the suspects comes forward leah changing her statement was crucial it's some
38:04honesty that have come from these four for the first time leah says she saw macaulay lawless removing
38:10the knife from sam the fact that it was done in writing just shows how scared leah was as a person
38:19to be given this crucial bit of evidence to police after 17 days of evidence the jury retires the jury
38:26out for several days which is quite rare and you can imagine the tensions that build up and the
38:31atmosphere that builds up finally the verdict
38:40unable to prove macaulay lawless intended to injure sam he's found guilty of manslaughter
38:47he's sentenced to eight years and another three years in prison for perverting the course of justice
38:51john mitchell gets three years for perverting the course of justice jessica roberts and leah delgado
39:00get two years each for perverting the course of justice but we're all so thankful to leah for the fact
39:08that she eventually gave out the truth because leah actually has a good heart whereas just john
39:15mitchell and macaulay just they don't give up they don't care i don't feel like they showed any remorse
39:20at all they didn't look sorry for what they done and to be fair i don't think they ever will be sorry
39:26because they've i feel like they've all gotten away with it really lightly whereas sam he's obviously no
39:31longer here in my opinion 11 years i just don't think it's acceptable it's more of a life sentence
39:37for millie may than what macaulay ever got punished with i think from from the family it was um was
39:46relief that someone had been convicted there was potentially some frustration because the verdict
39:51was manslaughter and not murder and from a policing perspective we're just happy to try and get some
39:58justice and for the family although no matter what the verdict is or whatever the sentence is we are
40:03never going to bring sam back and that is something that hangs over all of us i was devastated because
40:12of the sentences i got i mean macaulay lawless has only got served five years and he's out
40:18but then i don't think any length of time would be enough when macaulay gets released millie's going
40:23to be at the age where she's going to understand more the fact that he's going to be roaming the
40:28streets one day when she's going to be out there that doesn't sit comfortably with me at all at all
40:35i still don't feel like it's proper closure because there's still so many unanswered questions
40:40it was summed up in the judge's comments to say this was undoubtedly caused by
40:44a drugs debt realistically we'll never know exactly what's happened and only those four people in the
40:49flat will ever know the circumstances that surrounded sam's death with the case closed
40:56there's even an opportunity for hayley to meet leah's parents we all cried together
41:01they were really sorry we were sorry for the position that they were in because i was seeing
41:08leah's mum and dad they didn't deserve it nor did leah i just feel like it was the wrong place at the
41:13wrong time for her
41:17the feeling for me was that it was the end of the journey i'd gotten to know the family and friends of
41:24sam really well i've grown to respect him in particular hayley someone who's got the absolute
41:29voice of a lion and an incredibly strong person who the daughter can grow up to and look up to as a
41:36really strong role model there's nothing more that comes after the trial it's sad to have to not have sam
41:4524 7 in your life right should we put to daddy i love you from millie may yeah but you just have to
41:53learn to move on you just gotta grab your family and just appreciate every single one of them i put to sam
42:03i love you for sam's family and friends there are lessons on friendship they can pass on to millie may
42:09if you're friends you're you're you're supposed to protect one another you're supposed to be loyal
42:16you're supposed to be there for when they really need you at the worst times or even at the good times
42:22for me coolly was a friend to sam sam's always with us and it's brought us all a lot closer
42:29sam was all about family and all about friends and to know that his family and his friends have all
42:34stood together by his name really i think he'd be really proud of that obviously at that time the
42:40friends weren't thinking of the friend who was injured they were thinking about each other how can
42:47we get away with this how can we get off with this it's almost as if sam was forgotten in their minds
42:52from the moment that he was stabbed that's perhaps the biggest betrayal of the lot
42:57it's the first time that i've seen this this plaque down here it's perhaps the weirdest thing
43:08about all to be honest is you get to know so much about someone but i've never met them
43:17you have to live a life without them but make sure that they're constantly there still
43:21and talk about them reminisce about the good times
43:25and the bad time because that was all a part of sam and obviously watching millie may grow up
43:31she's more like him so we've got sam here anyway maybe not in person but he's still here
43:38let that one go yay say bye bye daddy say bye
43:43say love you
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