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00:00Please, I've just come back to my flat and the door was locked,
00:03so I curled through the window and my flatmate's covered in blood in the bathroom.
00:06Is she breathing?
00:08Alice!
00:10Oh my God, she's dead!
00:12She's dead!
00:15This was one of the most disturbing killings that I've ever encountered.
00:20It was a case of true horror.
00:22We didn't think that she was the sort of girl that something like this could happen too.
00:27I just sort of thought this was just some boyfriend who wouldn't go away,
00:31and that wasn't the same as a stalker.
00:34No, I don't want to kill you. I'm not intending to kill you.
00:38It was then him that put that into Alice's mind that,
00:42wait a minute, are you thinking about killing me?
00:45I'm concerned.
00:47Friends have been telling me to call the police.
00:49I've been putting it off, but I just feel a bit like shaking up tonight.
00:52The whole situation had all the hallmarks of a disaster waiting to happen.
00:57I knew at that point, what at this, Harry had attacked and killed her.
01:04This is arresting true man Dylan on suspicion of the murder of Alice Ruggles.
01:09Are you saying that Alice is dead?
01:11Newcastle, on the evening of 12th October 2016.
01:26Maxine McGill, Alice Ruggles' flatmate,
01:28is on her way back to their shared ground floor flat in Newcastle,
01:32unaware of the shocking scene that's about to confront her.
01:34I remember so clearly driving home and dancing away to a new song that was on the radio,
01:39and then all of a sudden as I pulled up to her street,
01:42an uneasy feeling.
01:45I couldn't get in, because we had a security snub.
01:48So I started screaming,
01:50Alice, it's me, opening the door.
01:53And nothing.
01:53Alice, there's lots, it's everywhere, it's everywhere.
01:59At least if she was in the shower, she's, everything's been knocked open.
02:02At least if she's been attacked.
02:04I just knew that I had to get in that flat.
02:07I can remember getting over the back wall
02:09and seeing the living room window wide open.
02:13I remember getting in.
02:14It was just deathly quiet.
02:18And eerie.
02:19That's when I noticed Alice.
02:23She's not breathing, she's actually blue.
02:25Wait.
02:29She put on a complaint on about her ex two weeks ago.
02:32About who?
02:33Her ex-boyfriend, Harry Dillon.
02:35Right.
02:38I knew at that point what had happened to Alice,
02:41and that it was Harry,
02:44who had attacked and killed her.
02:49The prime suspect is Alice's ex-boyfriend,
02:5225-year-old soldier, Trimmon Dillon,
02:55also known as Harry.
02:57Later that night,
02:58he's arrested at his barracks in Edinburgh
02:59on suspicion of murder.
03:02You don't have to say anything,
03:03but it may harm your defence
03:04if you don't mention any questions.
03:05Some of you are relying on court.
03:07Anything you do see may be given an evidence.
03:10His clothes are removed
03:11and will be tested for traces of Alice's DNA.
03:15Samples are also taken from his hands and fingernails.
03:17His help for Hero's bracelet is removed
03:20and he's taken down to Newcastle for questioning.
03:23So, Harry, at 1834 hours yesterday,
03:41Alice Ruggles was found
03:43at her home address in Gateshead
03:45and she'd been murdered.
03:46Did you murder Alice?
03:48No, I did not murder Alice.
03:49Do you have any knowledge of this?
03:50No, I don't have any knowledge of this.
03:53Were you present when this murder occurred?
03:54No, I wasn't.
03:55Alice was, well, she was the third of our four children.
04:12Even from a young age,
04:13she was always full of mischief and fun.
04:16I think her biggest thing
04:19was that she was very empathetic.
04:21So, she'd talk to someone
04:23and she always cared about them
04:24and she'd always try and make them feel better.
04:28Say when.
04:29When.
04:33Alice was, yeah, always the life and soul of a party.
04:36She had loads of friends.
04:37She was really bubbly.
04:39Great fun to be around.
04:40She'd always make people laugh.
04:41Go, Alice.
04:46After graduating from Northumbria University,
04:49Alice decides to stay on in Newcastle
04:51and finds herself a job at Sky TV
04:53where she meets best friend Maxine.
04:57She became part of her family in Newcastle.
05:00We're university friends
05:01and then, of course, working for Sky.
05:03She came from living in a small village
05:06where not a lot round about her
05:08to living life in the city centre
05:10and she thrived.
05:14Alice's older sister, Emma,
05:15knew a different side to the bubbly 24-year-old.
05:19Everyone loved her,
05:20but she was always quite self-deprecating.
05:23But she genuinely believed it.
05:24It wasn't just a modesty thing.
05:25She didn't really believe in herself.
05:27In October 2015,
05:31a friend posted a photo of Alice on holiday
05:33on Facebook,
05:34which catches the eye
05:36of Lance Corporal Harry Dillon,
05:38a soldier serving with
05:39the Royal Regiment of Scotland,
05:41on tour at the time in Afghanistan.
05:46I had a friend in uni
05:48who was then Alice's friend.
05:49That's how I met Alice.
05:50I looked at her photograph
05:51and I was like,
05:52your friend's quite pretty.
05:53And then she's like,
05:54yeah, she's single and all that.
05:55So we stopped,
05:56me and Alice started speaking
05:57whilst I wouldn't have planned on something.
05:59When we were speaking,
06:00she used to really make me feel good
06:02about things and all that.
06:04And over time,
06:06we just really got on.
06:08For me, everything was perfect.
06:11Harry, an only child
06:12born into privileged circumstances in India,
06:15had come to the UK
06:16to finish his studies
06:17at Queen Mary's University in Edinburgh
06:19and had aspirations
06:21to get into Sandhurst Academy.
06:24At the time of his arrest,
06:25he was training to join the Special Forces.
06:28Initially, it was physical attraction.
06:32He could be perceived as a good-looking boy
06:34and I think it was excitement.
06:37And obviously,
06:38with him being in the armed forces,
06:39she was proud of the man that she had.
06:43And at the start,
06:43I really do believe
06:44she thought he was a decent man.
06:48It was very, very serious.
06:49He used to send her flowers.
06:50He used to send her gifts.
06:54She would send him gifts.
06:56In January 2016,
06:58after an intense two-month online relationship,
07:01Harry comes home on leave,
07:03where he and Alice finally meet face-to-face.
07:05Sorry.
07:12Sorry, take your time.
07:14Sorry.
07:19Sorry on the 20th of January for the first time.
07:2120th of January?
07:22Yeah.
07:22That's when I came to my RNR.
07:25It's two weeks.
07:26You get two weeks off to go back home
07:27and just see family or whatever.
07:29And I spent every single day with her.
07:31I spent two weeks with her.
07:32One week in Newcastle.
07:33One week,
07:34she came with me.
07:34I showed her Edinburgh and stuff like that.
07:36And it was perfect.
07:37I just really loved her and stuff like that.
07:42I believe if she'd have met him face-to-face
07:45in those early days,
07:46she wouldn't have gone anywhere near him
07:47and she would have sussed him in seconds.
07:51In April 2016,
07:54Harry returns from Afghanistan
07:55and their relationship excels quickly.
07:58She was absolutely besotted with Harry
08:01and almost with the kirsty ground that he walked on
08:04and truly did love him.
08:06She seemed really happy.
08:08In July 2016,
08:10Alice invites Harry
08:11on her annual family holiday to Cornwall,
08:13where the couple are inseparable.
08:16We'd never ever seen her on her own.
08:18In fact,
08:18there was only one morning of the holiday
08:20when she'd got up before Harry had.
08:22When you're in love with someone,
08:23you want to be with them all the time.
08:24So it's not necessarily anything
08:27that you'd looked at and said,
08:28this is strange.
08:30None of us would have believed
08:31what he was capable of
08:33and what in turn he'd done to Alice.
08:4424-year-old Alice Ruggles is dead,
08:47found brutally murdered
08:48at her home in Newcastle.
08:50Oh my God,
08:51she's so cute,
08:52she's dead.
08:53No!
08:54Her flatmate,
08:56Maxine McGill,
08:56discovered Alice with her throat slit
08:58and in a pool of blood
08:59and named ex-boyfriend,
09:02soldier Harry Dillon,
09:03as the prime suspect.
09:04She put on her complaint
09:05in a bit of her ex
09:06two weeks ago.
09:07About who?
09:08Her ex-boyfriend,
09:09Harry Dillon.
09:1012 hours after being arrested
09:12on suspicion of murder,
09:14Harry is being questioned by police.
09:17Were you present
09:17when this murder occurred?
09:18No, I wasn't.
09:19As Harry was spending
09:24more and more time with Alice,
09:26her relationships with her friends
09:27start to break down.
09:29Alice messaged me
09:30about falling out
09:31with the housemates.
09:32All of a sudden,
09:34the boys just stopped
09:35speaking to her.
09:37I think he'd convinced Alice
09:38that this boy fancied her
09:41and wouldn't speak to her
09:42because she had a boyfriend now.
09:43And these were lads
09:44that she'd been really close with.
09:45You know,
09:46it just didn't,
09:46it didn't really make any sense.
09:47She did ring me up one night
09:51and say, you know,
09:52Mum, I know nobody in Newcastle.
09:54I think I need to come back home
09:55because I haven't got any friends.
09:57Which is, you know,
09:58really, really sad
10:00because, you know,
10:01I knew Alice had
10:02loads and loads of friends.
10:04It's weird now,
10:05looking back on it,
10:06especially when she then
10:07fell out with another one
10:08of her really, really close friends
10:09up there who was
10:10a lovely girl
10:11that I've met as well.
10:12I was like,
10:12this is so strange.
10:14But I didn't link him
10:15into any of it.
10:17Feeling isolated,
10:21Alice moves out
10:22of the shared accommodation
10:23and into a ground floor flat
10:24on Rawling Road
10:25with her work friend Maxine,
10:27where Harry becomes
10:28a regular visitor.
10:30He wanted to spend
10:31all his time
10:33and her time
10:34within the flat.
10:35He wouldn't go out drinking
10:37or socialising
10:38and that was because
10:39he wasn't wanting her
10:41to be in the public
10:42when she dressed up
10:43and dolled up
10:44and having people
10:45look at her
10:46and perhaps find her attractive.
10:52She told people
10:53that I was really abusive
10:55and I used to swap her
10:56from doing things
10:57and it was a really
10:58horrible relationship.
11:00She didn't have a life.
11:01That's a lot of rubbish.
11:04That's not true.
11:06Later that month,
11:07Alice receives
11:08a Facebook message
11:09from an unknown girl
11:10claiming that Harry
11:11has been messaging her
11:12on Tinder.
11:14Alice said
11:15that there were problems
11:17in the relationship
11:18and she talked to me
11:19about the girl
11:20who messaged her
11:20and Alice was really
11:22upset about that.
11:23She confronted him
11:25and he made a series
11:26of completely
11:27ridiculous claims
11:29to argue this away.
11:31Alice became aware
11:31that he was
11:32a complete liar.
11:33She really started
11:34to see
11:35what type of man
11:37that he really was.
11:40Before I went to Afghanistan
11:41I had an account
11:42and I never deleted it
11:43and she saw it
11:43and she went
11:44absolutely crazy
11:44so after that
11:45I promised myself
11:46never to go anywhere
11:46close to that site.
11:48Believing Harry
11:49has cheated on her
11:50Alice ends
11:51the relationship
11:51but getting rid of him
11:53isn't going to be
11:54as easy as she hopes.
11:56I was always
11:57in the relationship
11:57but she was on and off.
12:00And so begins
12:01a barrage of emails
12:02texts and voicemails
12:03as a desperate
12:04Harry Dillon refuses
12:05to believe
12:06the relationship is over.
12:11Alice, please.
12:13I'm not breathing
12:14I can't live.
12:21I called her up
12:24and I said
12:24you can't just walk away
12:25from someone
12:26and not give them answers.
12:27I've been with you
12:28for so long
12:28we've had memories
12:29together
12:29don't just bend me
12:30like this
12:31like over a text
12:31because that was
12:32kind of on the phone
12:32she just hung up
12:33and then she won't pick up.
12:35I tried calling her
12:36one or two times again
12:37but she didn't pick up.
12:39Alice, please call me back.
12:41Please.
12:42I just want to speak to you
12:43there's nothing else.
12:45I don't even know
12:45if you're getting
12:45into some wise messages
12:46but please
12:47can you call me back?
12:49His attempts
12:51to reach Alice
12:51reach a new level
12:52of desperation.
12:54There was a
12:55threatening side to it.
12:58He'd acquired
12:59some compromising
13:01photos of her
13:02and he began
13:02threatening to release those.
13:05She blocked
13:06all Harry's numbers
13:06but he just kept
13:07finding new ways
13:08of contacting her.
13:09He was messaging
13:10friends and family
13:11members to pass
13:12messages on
13:13and she just
13:14couldn't get rid of him.
13:16Sue suddenly gets
13:17this great long message
13:18from him.
13:19Dear Mum
13:20for goodness sake.
13:21I don't call my
13:22in-laws Mum
13:23and Dad
13:23you know
13:24and he hadn't
13:25known us
13:26he'd only met us
13:27a few times
13:27sort of pleading
13:28with her
13:29to persuade Alice
13:30to go back to him.
13:31We were incredulous
13:32that he would even
13:33ask Sue about this.
13:35I was just so angry
13:36about that
13:37because
13:37you know
13:38what right had he
13:39to do that
13:40and what did he
13:41think I would do?
13:43It's just ridiculous.
13:44When he started
13:47messaging Mum
13:47we were furious
13:48and I think he made
13:49a big error in that
13:51because Alice
13:52was furious about that.
13:54Harry resorts
13:55to new and alarming
13:56ways to find out
13:57what Alice is up to.
14:00She'd had her
14:01social media hacked.
14:02Harry had changed
14:03the email account
14:05on her Facebook
14:06and he'd been reading
14:07all her Facebook messages
14:08she'd been sending
14:09for a while
14:10and she didn't know
14:11how long.
14:12I think we even
14:13tracked an IP
14:14at one point back
14:15and could see
14:16that it was from
14:17Edinburgh
14:17where Harry was based
14:18but then
14:19legally that's nothing
14:21really no grounds
14:22to go on.
14:23Harry is paranoid
14:24that Alice is moving
14:25on and using
14:27online dating app
14:28Tinder
14:28which is registered
14:29through Facebook.
14:31There's something
14:32that I did
14:32I shouldn't have done
14:33but because I had
14:35her Facebook password
14:35so I went on her
14:37Facebook and changed
14:38her password
14:38because I just
14:39didn't want her
14:39to go back on Tinder
14:40and I was just
14:41desperate to not
14:42let her go back
14:42on Tinder.
14:43How do you know
14:44she was on Tinder?
14:45So one of the guys
14:47in my flat
14:48in the army barracks
14:49he was on Tinder
14:49and I found out
14:50that she was on Tinder
14:51because she showed me.
14:52So you've logged on
14:53as her
14:53and changed her password?
14:54Yeah.
14:55Obviously I'm not
14:56going to sit here
14:56and say I don't stalk her
14:57and all that
14:57but obviously I did
14:58look at her Facebook
14:59to see what's going on
15:00because I've been
15:01with her for so long
15:02through all these things
15:02so I can't just
15:04turn it off my head.
15:05This wasn't the first time
15:10that Harry had been
15:11accused of obsessing
15:12over an ex-girlfriend.
15:14I remember her telling me
15:15about this ex-girlfriend
15:17of his.
15:17Supposedly she'd
15:18reported him
15:19to the police
15:19for harassment.
15:21He'd made it out
15:21that it was all her
15:22and she was a psychopath
15:24and a bunny boiler
15:25and Alice believed him.
15:28It was later discovered
15:29that he had in fact
15:30been issued
15:31with a restraining order
15:32for harassment.
15:32By now
15:37Alice is certain
15:38she wants nothing
15:39more to do with Harry
15:40and is ready
15:41to move on.
15:42I introduced her
15:43to one of my friends
15:44to Mike
15:45I just knew
15:45they'd hit it off
15:46and they did.
15:49When Alice met Mike
15:51I think Harry
15:52was absolutely incensed
15:53he sent me a message
15:55he must have found out
15:57about it
15:57by hacking into
15:58her WhatsApp messages
16:00because Alice
16:01had never mentioned
16:02Mike
16:02on Facebook.
16:04We were convinced
16:05that there was
16:05spyware on Alice's phone.
16:07You can use
16:08WhatsApp web
16:08you can see
16:09the messages there
16:10so we either knew
16:11he was either
16:12on the device
16:13or on the WhatsApp web.
16:16I'm not a mobile geek
16:18I couldn't go on
16:19her Facebook
16:19or on her WhatsApp
16:21I couldn't hack her phone
16:22I just played that card
16:23I was like
16:23well I've got on your phone
16:25and I can see
16:25there's a guy
16:26you're speaking to
16:26tell me what his name is
16:28tell me what's going on
16:28she fell for it
16:30and she was like
16:30oh I met this guy
16:31who's this guy
16:34Mike
16:34and I was like
16:35please don't do this to me
16:36how can you move on so fast
16:37I'm still in love with you
16:38and you like
16:39you've moved on
16:39we knew he'd found out
16:41about Mike
16:42because he sent Mike messages
16:43he told Mike
16:44that Alice was still dating him
16:46and she was playing
16:46the two of them off together
16:47which was
16:48completely
16:49completely made up
16:51I spent hundreds of messages
16:55with Alice on WhatsApp
16:56and he would have listened
16:57to all those messages
16:58when Alice was talking to Mike
17:00and all the messages
17:02when she was talking to
17:03her sister about Harry
17:05and about Mike
17:06and you know
17:06it was the thing
17:07that sort of flipped it for him
17:08unbeknownst to Alice
17:12or her friends and family
17:13this increasingly obsessive behaviour
17:15is typical of that of a stalker
17:17stalking is a constellation
17:21of unwanted behaviours
17:23that are repeatedly imposed
17:25on an individual
17:27that is characterised by fixation
17:29or obsession
17:30the overwhelming majority
17:33of cases
17:34aren't high profile celebrities
17:37that are being stalked
17:38it could be anybody
17:40in fact in 2017
17:43the police recorded
17:44a record number
17:45of 8,364 cases of stalking
17:48and the National Stalking Helpline
17:50received over 7,000 calls
17:52and emails
17:53victims describe it
17:56as mental rape
17:57domestic psychological terrorism
18:00the explosion in social media
18:04in terms of Facebook
18:05and Instagram in particular
18:07has made it easier
18:09I think for stalkers
18:11to find out information
18:12and control situations
18:14the more excessive
18:17the contact was getting
18:19from Harry
18:19is the more Alice
18:21was becoming scared
18:22she would shake uncontrollably
18:27she'd lost a lot of weight
18:29she was getting more stressed
18:30and she would use the terms
18:32like stalker
18:33and psychopath
18:34and that should be
18:35the danger sign straight away
18:36but none of us would have believed
18:38what he was capable of
18:40just after midnight
18:42on 1st of October 2016
18:44Harry drives over 100 miles
18:46from his barracks in Edinburgh
18:47to Gateshead
18:48to pay Alice
18:49to pay Alice
18:49an unannounced visit
18:51the night that Alice
18:53first made contact
18:54with the police
18:55was where
18:56she was in the flat
18:57on her own
18:58she
19:00hears a knock on the front door
19:02it's locked
19:03she's worried
19:03so she goes and looks
19:04through the keyhole
19:05and there's no one there
19:06and then that was repeated
19:08to get in half an hour later
19:09a little bit later
19:10she went to bed
19:11at this point
19:12the term that she used
19:13was she was frozen in fear
19:15lying in her bed
19:16and there was a knock
19:17on the window
19:18and she opened the curtain
19:21and he was standing
19:22by the window
19:23and he put some flowers
19:24on the windowsill
19:26and some chocolates
19:26on the windowsill
19:27and he was backing off
19:28with his hands raised up
19:30it was almost a threat
19:32to say I know where you stay
19:35you can't get rid of me
19:37that easy
19:37how is getting flowers
19:46and chocolates
19:47a threatening thing
19:47it was just
19:49I still
19:49like I still love
19:51I loved her
19:51but that was my attempt
19:53to solve things
19:54between us
19:54I've been looking at
19:58over the years
19:59hundreds and hundreds
20:00of cases of homicide
20:02where stalking
20:04has been in the history
20:05and in this case
20:07at this stage
20:09we have to start
20:10to try and understand
20:11what's going on
20:12in somebody like
20:13Harry Dillon's head
20:14he will be pulling
20:16all sorts of things
20:17out of his bag of tricks
20:18so let's try begging
20:20let's try presents
20:21what has been successful
20:23in the past
20:24what works with Alice
20:25so they're in this state
20:27of trying
20:28absolutely everything
20:30to regain that control
20:32you've had no indication
20:34that Alice wanted
20:36anything to do
20:36with you ever again
20:37yeah
20:37yeah you've still
20:38come down
20:39yeah
20:39and it's not like
20:40you live in Newcastle
20:41no I know
20:42I've come
20:42you know
20:43you live over
20:43two hours away
20:44I understand
20:44so that to me
20:45makes me think
20:47this guy is like
20:49desperate
20:49you are desperate
20:50to speak to her
20:51yeah
20:51driving back to Edinburgh
20:55Harry leaves Alice
20:57a sinister voicemail
20:58and when I heard
20:59this voicemail
21:00it was chilling
21:02Alice had never
21:14made that accusation
21:16Alice had never
21:17says
21:18I feel you're
21:19going to kill me
21:20it was then him
21:21that put that
21:23into Alice's mind
21:24that
21:24wait a minute
21:25are you thinking
21:27about killing me
21:28killing you
21:29is something
21:30that I've never
21:32ever ever thought
21:33about
21:34and I will never
21:35ever even
21:35think about that
21:36when Harry
21:40Dillon
21:41drove
21:42all that distance
21:44he could have
21:45been going down
21:45to gather intelligence
21:47because he'd already
21:48made the decision
21:48at that point
21:49that he was going
21:50to kill her
21:50I'll never forget
21:56walking into the
21:57flat that morning
21:57and hearing her
21:59unbuckle
22:00all the chains
22:00at the front door
22:01and the tremble
22:02and the fear
22:03in her eyes
22:03it'll haunt me
22:05forever
22:05after more than
22:08two months
22:09of feeling
22:09harassed
22:10Alice
22:11plucks up
22:11the courage
22:12to report
22:13Harry to the
22:13police
22:14hi there
22:19I just
22:20need a bit
22:20of advice
22:21really
22:21more than
22:22anything
22:23so I
22:25split up
22:25with my
22:26boyfriend
22:26about
22:26three months
22:27ago
22:27I know
22:28that he's
22:28hacked into
22:29my
22:29Facebook
22:30and also
22:31my phone
22:32and then
22:32tonight
22:33he's
22:33come round
22:35the back
22:35he's like
22:36left
22:36some flowers
22:38and chocolates
22:39on the
22:39outside
22:40windowsill
22:41and he
22:41walked off
22:42he's not
22:42done anything
22:43but I'm
22:43just
22:44like my
22:45friends have
22:46been telling
22:46me to call
22:47the police
22:47I've been
22:47putting it
22:48off
22:48but I just
22:48feel a bit
22:49shaken up
22:50tonight
22:50it's a huge
22:52step
22:52for anybody
22:53to contact
22:54the police
22:54and report
22:55stalking
22:55so that
22:56for the police
22:57is a real
22:57opportunity
22:58to get a
22:59grip
22:59of the
23:00situation
23:00and prevent
23:01further
23:02escalation
23:03the police
23:04call handler
23:05offers Alice
23:06two options
23:07to attempt
23:08to put an
23:08end to
23:09the harassment
23:09we'll do
23:10solicit her
23:11and take
23:11out an
23:11injunction
23:12or we
23:13can issue
23:14one with
23:14a PIN
23:14notice
23:15which means
23:16if I
23:17comes near
23:17you again
23:18I contact
23:18you and
23:19he'll be
23:19arrested
23:19can I
23:21try that
23:22option please
23:23yeah of course
23:23you can
23:24police information
23:26notice
23:27is a piece
23:28of paper
23:28with no
23:29basis in
23:30law
23:30certainly
23:31when you've
23:31got somebody
23:32fixated
23:32or obsessed
23:33a piece
23:34of paper
23:34isn't going
23:35to make
23:35much difference
23:36pins
23:37should be
23:38abolished
23:39there is
23:40no bite
23:41to them
23:42it is so
23:43ineffectual
23:44that it actually
23:45is a mistake
23:46it will tell
23:47the officer
23:48he's done
23:48something
23:49when he hasn't
23:49and it will
23:50tell the victim
23:51they're safer
23:51when they're not
23:52the problem
23:53is that if
23:54stalking is not
23:54properly understood
23:55and properly
23:56tackled
23:56it is actually
23:58one of the rare
23:58situations in which
23:59it's possible
24:00to make the matter
24:00worse
24:01the whole situation
24:02had all the hallmarks
24:04of a disaster
24:05waiting to happen
24:06Alice Ruggles
24:15has been found
24:16brutally murdered
24:16at her home
24:17in Newcastle
24:18less than 24 hours ago
24:20prime suspect
24:21is ex-boyfriend
24:22soldier Harry Dillon
24:24he's being interrogated
24:26by police officers
24:27over his relationship
24:28with Alice
24:28and about his actions
24:30the night before
24:31did you murder Alice
24:32no I did not murder Alice
24:33two weeks previously
24:35he was issued
24:36with a police information
24:37notice for harassment
24:38and agreed to cease
24:39all contact
24:40with Alice
24:41she believed that
24:43that was going to be
24:44the end of it
24:45and you started to see
24:47the old Alice
24:48the vibrant
24:49happy-go-lucky
24:51girl that she always was
24:53come back
24:54and she had a spring
24:55in her step every day
24:56until the Friday
25:00of that week
25:00where we got home
25:01just a week
25:04after making her
25:05complaint about Harry
25:06Alice receives
25:07a package from him
25:08including a letter
25:09and old photos
25:10which is in direct
25:12violation of the
25:13police information
25:14notice
25:14in the last two weeks
25:16you've had no indication
25:17that Alice wanted
25:18anything to do
25:19with you ever again
25:20yeah
25:20I'm not trying to
25:21justify that
25:22you couldn't accept
25:23your relationship
25:23was over
25:24that's the crux
25:25of it isn't it
25:26yeah I think
25:27that'll be right
25:28one of the
25:31key ways
25:32of finding out
25:34how fixated
25:35or obsessed
25:35somebody is
25:36is the way
25:37they respond
25:38to authorities
25:39telling them to stop
25:40if they don't stop
25:42that means
25:43the stalking
25:44is more important
25:46to them
25:46than
25:48them getting
25:49into trouble
25:49at this point
25:50she just looked lost
25:51she just thought
25:53well
25:53I thought
25:54this was going to stop
25:55seven days
25:59after that first
26:00phone call to police
26:00Alice calls them
26:02a second time
26:02but on this occasion
26:04the response
26:04is less sympathetic
26:05what Alice said
26:07was that the lady
26:08said well
26:08what do you want
26:09us to do about it
26:10arrest him
26:10she didn't want
26:12to ruin his
26:12military career
26:13or get him
26:14thrown into prison
26:15all she wanted
26:16to do was to
26:16stop it
26:17well that's
26:18not a responsibility
26:19that should have
26:19been left with her
26:20it should be
26:22an extraordinarily
26:22rare occasion
26:23when the police
26:24say do you want
26:24somebody arrested
26:25it's a police
26:26decision
26:26the exact words
26:28that I mean
26:28how serious
26:29is it going to be
26:30is it going to be
26:31when he comes
26:32around and kills
26:33me
26:33for them to
26:34take it serious
26:35I read lots of
26:37stuff about
26:37the dangers
26:38of stalking
26:39but somehow
26:40I just sort of
26:41thought
26:42this was just
26:43some boyfriend
26:43who wouldn't
26:44go away
26:44and that wasn't
26:45the same as
26:46a stalker
26:47one of the last
26:49things I said
26:49to Alice
26:50before she died
26:50was just
26:51ignore him
26:52and eventually
26:52he'll leave you
26:54alone
26:54and go away
26:55CCTV footage
27:00of Harry parking
27:01up outside
27:01Alice's house
27:02late at night
27:03proves that
27:04he was there
27:04three days
27:05after she received
27:06the unwanted
27:07package
27:07you have delivered
27:11some presents
27:12to us
27:12that's the last
27:13time you were
27:14there
27:14the last time
27:20other than
27:21this incident
27:22for which you
27:22were under
27:22arrest for
27:23so that was
27:24the last time
27:24you were at
27:25Harry
27:25no there was
27:25one in the
27:26middle as well
27:27I've just asked
27:30you that question
27:30when was the
27:31last time
27:32sorry I didn't
27:33catch that
27:34but I'm
27:34I'm saying
27:35and you said
27:35was the chocolate
27:36incident
27:36no I
27:37yeah
27:37I never
27:38I'm sorry
27:39I just didn't
27:40think
27:40I'll tell you
27:41now
27:41so when was
27:42it
27:42so it was
27:43I think it
27:44was Monday
27:45evening
27:45Richard Wright QC
27:48is a barrister
27:49specialising in
27:50criminal law
27:51representing the
27:52prosecution
27:52in the murder
27:54case of Alice
27:54Ruggles
27:55I think one of
27:56the most sinister
27:57pieces of evidence
27:59that was available
28:00to the prosecution
28:01was a photograph
28:02that demonstrated
28:04he'd made another
28:05240 mile round trip
28:07and he'd photographed
28:09the bathroom window
28:10which is the very room
28:12where Alice died
28:13the only sensible
28:14conclusion
28:15is that he was
28:16reconnoitering the property
28:17he was working out
28:19how he could get in
28:20because he was determined
28:22he was going to break in
28:23CCTV footage
28:27also reveals
28:28that 48 hours later
28:29Harry is en route again
28:31stopping for petrol
28:32before continuing
28:33his journey
28:34towards Alice's flat
28:35in Newcastle
28:36at 5.17pm
28:44Alice finishes work
28:45and chats with a colleague
28:47before getting a lift home
28:48something in work
28:50kept me back
28:51an extra hour
28:53so she had
28:54hitched a lift
28:55off of her friend
28:57Paul
28:57meanwhile
29:01Harry parks his car
29:02up the road
29:03from Alice's flat
29:04whilst waiting
29:05for her to return home
29:06he contacts another girl
29:08on Tinder
29:095.31pm
29:13and a neighbour's
29:14dash cam footage
29:15shows Alice being
29:16dropped off
29:17outside her flat
29:17this is the last time
29:19Alice is seen alive
29:21at 5.46pm
29:27Harry's car
29:28is spotted
29:29driving towards
29:29Alice's flat
29:30can you tell me
29:33what you were doing
29:34yesterday then
29:35from 10am
29:36until the time
29:36you were arrested
29:37last night
29:37I drove down
29:39towards Newcastle
29:41and
29:42because I was
29:44I just
29:45I just wanted
29:46to answer
29:46all we know
29:48is that
29:49she was
29:50having
29:50a whatsapp
29:51conversation
29:52with Mike
29:52in fact
29:52at the time
29:53suddenly her
29:59messages stopped
30:00how do you
30:04end up in the house
30:04no I wasn't in the house
30:06I was outside
30:06she came
30:07you've never been outside
30:08yeah I've been
30:09I never stepped
30:11inside her house
30:12the crime scene
30:15was one of the most
30:16disturbing crime scenes
30:18I've ever seen
30:19one of the most
30:20disturbing killings
30:21that I've ever
30:22encountered
30:23what must have been
30:24the terror of her
30:25final moments
30:26as she was
30:27effectively hunted
30:28down and executed
30:29this was a case
30:31of true horror
30:33so you've knocked
30:35so you've knocked on the door
30:35and there's been no reply
30:36did you go back to the car
30:37or did you go straight
30:38round the back
30:39straight round the back
30:39I jumped over the wall
30:41so you've jumped over
30:42yeah
30:42so I've jumped over
30:43and she then started saying
30:45what are you doing here
30:46I'm going to call the police
30:47leave now
30:48and I'm like
30:48Alice please calm down
30:50stop panicking
30:50I'm just here to speak to you
30:52you've not given me my answers
30:53I just want my answers
30:54she said
30:54I don't want to speak to you
30:56I see you
30:57because I've heard stories
30:58about how guys like you
30:59end up killing their girlfriends
31:00and I've got a feeling
31:02you'll probably do the same
31:03and I don't want to die
31:04I want to live
31:04the bathroom where Alice died
31:10was extensively
31:11covered in blood
31:13he knelt on her back
31:14pulled back her hair
31:16and slit her throat
31:17six times
31:19we're looking for fingerprints
31:21we're looking for blood transfer
31:23from the scene to the car
31:25see the thing is
31:26sorry I'm interrupting
31:27there won't be any blood transfer
31:28because there was no blood on me
31:29when I left that place
31:30so are you saying
31:31when you left her
31:32she had no injuries
31:33or anything
31:33oh no no
31:34absolutely nothing
31:35no injuries
31:36nothing
31:36she was perfectly fine
31:37fit
31:37healthy
31:38Alice's phone is missing
31:41the police want to find out
31:43if Harry has any knowledge of this
31:45she had her phone on
31:47I think it was
31:48no her phone was on the left hand
31:49with her thumb
31:51on the call button
31:52she's like
31:53I'm going to call 999
31:54I'm like okay I'm leaving
31:55I don't want any trouble
31:56with the police again
31:56I'm leaving
31:57at the time when Dylan
31:59was saying he hadn't been involved
32:01one of the crucial pieces of evidence
32:03was that he'd taken her phone
32:05Alice's phone
32:05from the crime scene
32:07and he'd driven it
32:08back up to Scotland
32:09so we have been doing
32:11some telecoms work
32:12alright
32:13can you remember
32:16that you saw
32:17Alice's phone
32:19in her hand
32:20when you left
32:21yep
32:21yep
32:22you don't want to change your mind
32:23do you
32:24no
32:24before we show you this
32:25no
32:26it was
32:27pretty much in her hand
32:28yep
32:29I'm going to show you something
32:31that will suggest otherwise
32:32it was
32:33so
32:34can I speak about the solicitor first
32:38and then I'll speak to you
32:39we'll pause the interview
32:43it is 1.34pm
32:45we have Alice's phone
32:54pinging off her mast
32:56because the connector masts
32:57alright
32:57that's what the GPRS is about
32:59on the A1
33:00near the Kenton area
33:02the route you've told us
33:03that you have driven
33:04after you've left her house
33:06yeah
33:06what I'm saying to you is
33:08you have taken Alice's phone
33:10what have you got to say about that
33:12no comment
33:14as he was confronted with evidence
33:17that demonstrated he was lying
33:19he would fall back on making no comment
33:22so that I may suggest you a line about
33:24the altercation with Alice
33:27in the back yard
33:28is that right
33:29no comment
33:30we know exactly what you did
33:33we've been told exactly what happened to her
33:38and how you
33:40you
33:41cut her throat
33:42no comment
33:44are you looking back
33:46are you
33:47do you remember what happened
33:49no comment
33:50do you remember what you did
33:51no comment
33:52do you remember how bad I was
33:53no comment
33:54do you remember the blood spraying
33:55no comment
33:56I'm being told that she suffered
33:59she must have known
34:00what was happening
34:01because she didn't die straight away
34:06you've got four tiny little scratches on your face
34:11her throat is slit open
34:13through the voice box
34:14back to her spine
34:17I hadn't been prepared for what the body would look like
34:26and as they cover it up
34:29you can see a lot of
34:30there was a lot of injuries
34:32you know and obviously
34:33the main injury
34:34I sat with her for ages
34:36when everyone else had gone
34:38and yeah
34:39I just
34:39I just apologised to her
34:44because
34:44I felt just
34:46enormously guilty
34:48honestly
34:49I've never found anything like it
34:50you've sat at you for two days
34:55showing no remorse whatsoever
34:57you said you loved her
34:59you didn't love her
35:01you thought
35:02if you can't have her
35:03no one else can have her
35:05that's exactly what you thought
35:06because she doesn't want you
35:07is that the truth
35:08no comment
35:09why are you no commenting now
35:11because you're guilty
35:14how can you do that to someone you love
35:17because you're jealous
35:23possessive
35:24controlling
35:24stalker
35:25murderer
35:26army soldier
35:38harry dillon
35:39is being questioned
35:40in police custody
35:41on suspicion of murdering
35:43his ex-girlfriend
35:44alice ruggles
35:4524 hours earlier
35:47she was found
35:48with multiple stab wounds
35:49to the neck
35:50in a pool of blood
35:51at her home in Newcastle
35:52phone records prove
35:55that harry has taken
35:56alice's mobile that night
35:57and evidence is mounting
35:59against him
36:00you have taken
36:01alice's phone
36:02what have you got to say
36:03about that
36:03no comment
36:04results from the dna tests
36:06taken earlier
36:07confirm traces of alice's blood
36:09on harry's
36:10help the hero's bracelet
36:11as well as on his steering wheel
36:13there won't be any blood transfer
36:15because there was no blood on me
36:16when i had left that place
36:17the blood on the wristband
36:21and the blood in the car
36:22they were very important
36:24strands of evidence
36:25at an early stage
36:27when he was denying
36:28that he'd had anything to do
36:29with her death
36:30they revealed him
36:32to be lying about that
36:33in april 2017
36:38six months after the brutal murder
36:41of alice ruggles
36:41the case goes to trial
36:43at newcastle crown court
36:44where harry continues to plead
36:46not guilty
36:47when i seen him for the first time
36:52in the court
36:53it was like somebody
36:56stepping all over my heart
36:58i couldn't take my eyes off him
37:00it's just like
37:05pure hatred
37:06i've never hated
37:07anything so much
37:09in my entire life
37:10and i'm just
37:11staring at him
37:12i wanted him to look over
37:15at us
37:16so that he could see
37:17how angry we were
37:20but he didn't ever have
37:22the bravery
37:23to look at us at all
37:25so we went into the trial
37:28expecting
37:29that he was going to
37:30spin a web of lies
37:31forensic evidence
37:34placed harry at the scene
37:35of the murder
37:35contradicting his version
37:37of events in custody
37:38forcing him to change
37:40his story in court
37:41the defense case
37:43was that
37:44the defendant
37:45had come down
37:46to the flat
37:47he'd come to collect
37:49his possessions
37:50he had had to
37:52access the flat
37:54through a window
37:54and that there had been
37:55a violent argument
37:56between him and alice
37:57attacking him
37:59with a knife
38:00and that in the course
38:01of trying to attack him
38:03she had inflicted
38:05all of the injuries
38:07upon herself
38:08the lies that he spun
38:12i sat with my mouth open
38:14the full time
38:15like
38:15are you
38:17are you being serious
38:18this case
38:21in my view
38:22was all about
38:22control
38:24his killing of alice
38:25was about controlling
38:26her ultimately
38:27and my view was
38:29that he had that trial
38:30to exert
38:31a final element
38:32of control
38:33over her
38:34and her family
38:34in the trial
38:36he made up
38:37all sorts of things
38:38she'd said
38:39as she was lying
38:40dying
38:40about how horrible
38:42the family was
38:43it's frustrating
38:44because he came out
38:45with some
38:45very very
38:48unpleasant things
38:49he was asked a question
38:51as to how he'd felt
38:53when he'd looked down
38:55and seen alice
38:55fatally
38:56injured
38:57he very deliberately
38:59directed his answer
39:00at the family
39:01and said that he
39:03felt sorry
39:04for her father
39:05because
39:06her father
39:07hadn't been able
39:07to protect his daughter
39:08in that final moment
39:10of her life
39:11i mean you know
39:15these people are cold
39:16you know
39:17you know that
39:17there's no emotion
39:18but how he can just
39:20stand up there
39:22and just come out
39:22with all this
39:23i don't know
39:24i suppose i was just
39:25numbed by it
39:26i thought one of the
39:28most telling
39:29pieces of evidence
39:30came from his friend
39:32who he'd met in the park
39:33in edinburgh
39:34a few days before
39:35the killing
39:36and he talked
39:37incessantly
39:38about the fact
39:39that alice was
39:40seeing someone else
39:41effectively that
39:42alice
39:43wasn't going to have
39:44somebody who was
39:45better than him
39:46on the 26th of april
39:492017
39:50following an 11 day
39:52trial with harry
39:53sticking to his
39:53not guilty plea
39:54the jury retire
39:56to decide their
39:57verdict
39:58there's a lot of
39:59fear that he might
40:01get off in some
40:02technicality
40:04you trust in the
40:06common sense of
40:07juries to see
40:07through liars
40:09and harry dylan
40:10was one of the
40:11most accomplished
40:12but ultimately
40:13one of the worst
40:14liars that i've
40:15ever encountered
40:16the jury
40:18deliberates for
40:19less than two
40:20hours before
40:21finding harry dylan
40:22guilty of murder
40:24when the jury
40:27had came back
40:29with a guilty
40:29verdict
40:30it was pure
40:32relief
40:32he is jailed
40:34for life
40:34with a minimum
40:35of 22 years
40:36for what the judge
40:37called an act
40:39of utter barbarism
40:40if you have taken
40:42a knife or other
40:43weapon to the scene
40:44of the murder
40:45that's 25 years
40:46starting point
40:47this was not a case
40:49in which the defendant
40:50had taken the knife
40:51to the scene
40:52because the knife
40:53was picked up
40:54inside the flat
40:56so he had not come
40:57armed with the weapon
40:57he can get out
41:01when he's in his 40s
41:02meet someone
41:04get into a relationship
41:06with someone
41:06and potentially do
41:09what he did to
41:11Alice
41:12to somebody else
41:13there's no such thing
41:17as normality
41:18you can't go back
41:19to normal
41:20it doesn't exist
41:21anymore
41:21I'm hoping that
41:23one day
41:23it'll go to a stage
41:24where my memories
41:26are nice memories
41:27of her
41:28and not just
41:29the horrible stuff
41:31that happened
41:31in the end
41:32no one's the same
41:34no one's the same
41:35nothing is the same
41:36I'm not the same
41:39I don't think
41:40I'll ever go back
41:41to what I was
41:41I think
41:45I just feel a bit empty
41:51speaking outside court
41:53Alice's family
41:54bravely faced
41:55the waiting media
41:56we believe
41:57there are important
41:58lessons to be learned
41:59from what happened
42:00to Alice
42:01we didn't think
42:02that she was
42:03the sort of girl
42:04that something like this
42:05could happen too
42:06I think Alice
42:08has really let down
42:09because
42:10I don't think
42:11the law on stalking
42:12has been used
42:13effectively
42:14or correctly
42:15and I don't think
42:17people even understand
42:18what stalking is
42:19we all hope
42:20to do as much
42:21as we can
42:21from now on
42:22to learn lessons
42:24to raise awareness
42:25and ultimately
42:26as we all
42:28sincerely hope
42:29to help prevent
42:30what happened to Alice
42:31happening to others
42:33thank you
42:34I think that the history
42:38of stalking
42:39just like domestic abuse
42:40is that the police
42:41have historically
42:42much less now
42:43have undervalued it
42:45and so haven't responded
42:46with sufficient alacrity
42:48and severity
42:49to complaints about it
42:51now they'll be able
42:52to do it
42:52or after the next year
42:54with a stalking protection order
42:55and if you aren't warned off
42:56you're at risk of five years
42:58since Alice's death
43:01the stalking protection bill
43:03is in the process
43:04of being passed in parliament
43:05the bill's aim
43:07is to introduce
43:08stalking protection orders
43:09to provide earlier protection
43:11for victims
43:12if we can step in
43:14at an earlier stage
43:16then perhaps
43:16we have a better opportunity
43:18to prevent stalking
43:19before the behaviour
43:20can become so deeply ingrained
43:23we give lots and lots
43:26of advice
43:26about how
43:27to get
43:28Mr. Right
43:29we don't give anyone
43:31any advice
43:32on how to get rid
43:33of Mr. Wrong
43:34and that is really
43:36where the crux
43:37of this lies
43:37the best prevention
43:40is to educate people
43:42about this sort of behaviour
43:44so that victims
43:46are able to understand
43:48the danger that they're in
43:50and take appropriate action
43:52we've set up a trust
43:54in Alice's name
43:55the end game
43:56is to stop this
43:57happening to other people
43:57stalking is really serious
43:59it's really damaging
44:00to the victim
44:00even when it doesn't
44:01end in tragedy
44:02it's a horrific experience
44:04for anyone to go through
44:05if it saves one person
44:08and Alice hasn't died in vain
44:10say when
44:12when
44:12he may think
44:20he's ruined lives
44:21but Alice will never die
44:23Alice will live forever
44:25because of what we're doing
44:27in her name
44:28on behalf of the trust
44:30she'll never die
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44:43Britain's most notorious
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44:45Ian Huntley
44:46and which ultimately
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