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Murder She Solved S01E08
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00:00It is a brutal and horrifying discovery.
00:06Well, instantly we knew we definitely had a homicide on our hands.
00:11A male's savagely severed arm discarded in a Calgary dumpster.
00:16You are starting with a huge puzzle and you're trying to find the answer.
00:19Whose limb was this?
00:21And what kind of a monster did commit such a gruesome and terrifying crime?
00:26This was a true whodunit.
00:28Everybody was a suspect at that point.
00:31This is the story of a mother's desperate search for answers.
00:35You just think, oh my God.
00:37So where's the rest of his body?
00:40And investigators' dogged determination to unearth the truth.
00:45It's my job, my responsibility to bring someone to justice who's responsible for this horrific crime.
00:58The morning of January 18th, 2008, in a quiet neighborhood in Calgary, Canada.
01:22A homeless man collecting bottles for cash is searching through a residential dumpster when he makes a sickening discovery.
01:32Inside a garbage bag is what appears to be a dismembered right arm.
01:40That's when nearby resident John Edwards is called to the front door.
01:46And the homeless guy says, quick, quick, you have to come look, look in the dumpster.
01:51So we went back to the dumpster and it opened up the top of the bag.
01:56Inside is a human arm cut from approximately the collarbone just right across there.
02:02Edwards makes a frantic call to 911.
02:07Police emergency.
02:09Oh, hi there.
02:09I believe there's part of a body in a garbage bag in the dumpster.
02:12Like a complete arm with like blood on it and stuff.
02:15An arm?
02:15I don't think they actually believed me when I said that there was, you know, a human arm in the dumpster.
02:21I think they might have thought it was a bit of a crank call.
02:23Get him here quick.
02:24That's him in the right way, right?
02:25Oh, they'll be there very quickly, yes.
02:28Investigator Cliff O'Brien heads to the location.
02:31Initially, I thought there's no way that this is a lich yet.
02:35It's going to be a mannequin or it's going to be something that just isn't a real body.
02:41Patrol officers had already secured the scene when O'Brien arrives.
02:47And sure enough, it was, there was a human arm.
02:53And it had some tattoos all the way from the wrist, you know, right the way up to the top of the arm.
02:59So, you know, your first inclination is something to do with drugs or bikers or something like that.
03:08The forensic specialist called to the scene is Jolaine Anderson.
03:13It's my job as a sergeant in the forensic unit to gather what is left at the scene from the offender
03:19and paint that picture for the homicide investigators.
03:24And the picture is a shocking one.
03:28Instantly, we knew we definitely had a homicide on our hands.
03:33And the first thing on my mind was that we need to identify this individual as a starting point.
03:37While police comb through other containers within a five-block radius,
03:43Anderson has the dumpster containing the arm transported to the forensic unit to be searched.
03:49It's not a very glamorous job because one of my team had to suit up and go inside the dumpster.
03:57You can imagine that we have to go through every bit.
03:59That's when they make another grisly discovery.
04:05In the corner of the dumpster, we found a similar type of garbage bag that we found the original arm in.
04:13In the garbage bag, we found the second or the left arm.
04:16Certainly, when there was a second arm, now I'm concerned that, is this from the same person?
04:27Because there is that possibility that we have multiple victims here.
04:34It would have been a very violent struggle.
04:38Some of the fingers were almost severed.
04:42Anderson takes prints from what's left.
04:45Fingerprints are infallible.
04:48DNA is awesome.
04:50However, fingerprints are still what we do and what we call our bread and butter still.
04:55Police submit both sets of prints to APHIS, the Automatic Fingerprint Identification Service.
05:03While they wait for results, O'Brien turns his attention to the tattoos on the dismembered arms.
05:10I contacted our major crime analyst, Trish Pace,
05:13and I asked Trish to check our records for any tattoos that might match what I'm seeing on these arms.
05:23We log tattoos where they are, descriptions of them, so I'm able to search that.
05:27He gave me a description of the tattoos, and he said that there was some Gaelic lettering, some skulls, et cetera.
05:36So he had me looking through our databases.
05:39While the tattoos don't reveal the victim's identity,
05:42the fingerprints do.
05:46Both arms are from the same person, 22-year-old Chad Largi.
05:54To hear that one of your children is gone, and all they found was his arms.
06:07You just think, oh my God.
06:09So where's the rest of his body?
06:13While investigators will soon be under tremendous pressure to find the monster who committed the murder.
06:19What we need to do now is go out and, unfortunately, do the next-of-kid notification to Chad's mom.
06:32I couldn't believe it.
06:34I went into instant shock.
06:38It's the most horrible experience that anybody could ever go through.
06:41She tells investigators about her son's short and troubled life.
06:50A difficult journey that began when Chad was born three and a half months premature.
06:56He was born two pounds, three ounces.
06:59He spent 121 days in the hospital fighting to live.
07:03And I was told that he was going to have all kinds of difficulties,
07:08but he grew up a fine, tall, good-looking man.
07:15An opinion shared by neighbour Aaron Lind.
07:18Chad was amazing.
07:19You know, he was a typical kid.
07:20Yeah, he got into trouble here and there a little bit.
07:23Nothing, you know, too much out of the ordinary of anyone else's age.
07:27He was very, very loyal.
07:30He'd give you the shirt off his back if he thought you needed it.
07:33He loved people.
07:35He loved all kinds of people.
07:37He just, he was a kind person.
07:40Sometimes I would get angry with him because he was just a bit too kind, you know?
07:45But there was another side to Chad Larkey.
07:50Looking at his background, he's got a couple of confrontational issues regarding drugs.
07:58Bar fights, he'd had a domestic with his parents.
08:02You could definitely see his behaviour kind of ramping up over the most recent couple of years.
08:06But what could possibly motivate someone to so brutally murder and mutilate this young man?
08:13It's a very violent, very deliberate act.
08:18And in our forensic unit, we always say anyone is capable of homicide, but it's a totally different level when someone is capable of dismemberment.
08:30And as the lead forensic officer on the case, Anderson hopes that the savage killer has left behind a clue.
08:39As a proper protocol, we used tape to make sure that we caught all of the potential trace evidence, such as fibres or hair, and ensure that if there's something there, we will find it.
08:54Meanwhile, police release a statement about the Larkey killing.
09:01All we ever told the community and the media was that we had one arm that was located.
09:07By not revealing the discovery of the second arm to the public, police create what's called holdback information.
09:15Crucial details about the murder that only the killer could know.
09:19The news of Chad Larkey's gruesome murder sets the entire city on edge.
09:38Calgary Police Staff Sergeant Patty McCallum.
09:40They're shocked because it's dismemberment, and people become afraid that maybe somebody's out there, that they too could be the next target who would be dismembered.
09:51Investigators have learned from Chad's mother that he had spent the evening of the murder at a Calgary bar.
09:58We were able to get Chad's cell phone records via search warrant.
10:03It confirmed the fact that he'd been in the downtown area prior to the homicide.
10:07We know that he had been drinking, and we were able to establish that Chad had phoned for somebody to come and pick him up.
10:17And we actually had the last known video of Chad leaving that bar.
10:24Chad's phone call was to his father, James Larkey.
10:29Police contact him.
10:31Chad's father really did not want to come and talk to us.
10:35He didn't want to know any details about his son's death.
10:38This is very strange.
10:40I don't know any parent that wouldn't want to know the details and to assist in the investigation.
10:45It is only when police threaten James Larkey with arrest that he agrees to speak with them.
10:54And on Saturday morning, 24 hours after the discovery of his son's remains, he sits down for an interview with investigators.
11:05He tells them that Chad phoned him because he was stranded at the bar, and that Larkey was taking his son home when Chad decided to visit friend Dean Commanda.
11:20Dean comes down, meets him at the back of the apartment building.
11:23They give Chad's dad some money to go buy some mix.
11:30Chad's father comes back a short time later with the mix, can't get into the apartment, makes some phone calls, and ultimately goes home.
11:40But is James Larkey telling the truth, or was this young man murdered, then brutally dismembered, by his own father?
11:52There's no doubt that we suspected Chad's father may have had something to do with it.
11:58We followed up James Larkey's story, saying that he had gone out for mix.
12:01We went and obtained the video to make sure that that's where he was.
12:04His story checks out. James Larkey is innocent, and investigators are back to square one.
12:17When Calgary police are called to the scene of a dumpster containing a dismembered arm,
12:23investigators must determine the identity of the victim and the motive for the murder.
12:29Is this some type of organized crime group that is sending a message, or trying to get revenge on somebody?
12:38Police soon discover a second arm, and lead forensic investigator Jolaine Anderson begins the grisly job of searching for clues.
12:49When we tape the arms, we're believing that the offender has left something behind on the arms,
12:54whether it be hair, fiber, potentially.
12:56Chad Larkey had spent the evening of his murder at a Calgary bar, then called his dad to pick him up.
13:11Police contact James Larkey, who reacts with indifference to his son's death, and refuses to cooperate with them.
13:19There's no doubt Chad's father was absolutely a person of interest for us.
13:23But the father's story about having dropped off Chad at friend Dean Commanda's turns out to be true.
13:34And it is by no means the first time police have heard the name Dean Commanda.
13:40Commanda had been known to us for a long time.
13:42He had a known criminal history. He had a known drug-related history.
13:46But could the 22-year-old have actually had a hand in the killing and savage mutilation of his best friend?
13:54There is nothing in their past that would indicate that Commanda would have killed Larkey.
13:59Nor, according to Commanda's girlfriend, did Dean have the opportunity.
14:04She says he was with her the night Chad was murdered.
14:07What's more, Commanda seemed genuinely worried when Larkey dropped out of sight.
14:14We were able to get access to Chad's cell phone, and Dean had left several voicemails for Chad after the murder.
14:24Back at the Calgary Police Forensic Lab, Sergeant Jolaine Anderson has come to a gruesome conclusion about Chad Larkey's dismembered limbs and the person who committed the savage act.
14:38He certainly changed the method with which he dismembered the first arm compared to the second arm.
14:44The first had been sawed off.
14:47I imagine it took a significant amount of time and force to dismember the first arm.
14:55By the time he got to the second arm, the murderer had the hang of it.
15:00Essentially cutting the tendons and the muscle and pulling the arm out of its socket.
15:05As you can well imagine, it would have to have been very violent.
15:08This ghastly evidence tells investigators that Chad Larkey's dismemberment was not the work of a seasoned killer, but of a novice unaccustomed to such a horrific act.
15:23In their appeal to the public for tips, police intentionally do not release information about the discovery of the second arm.
15:32When we found both arms in the dumpster, we kept that as a holdback.
15:38Important details only the killer would know.
15:49Police are inundated with calls from shocked Calgarians.
15:55One of the tips is from a rental company.
15:58They rented out a meat cutter, and the person that returned the meat cutter after having it for the weekend, left it full of flesh and full of blood.
16:11Could those remains be Chad Larkey's?
16:15I was tasked then to follow up with the owner of the business, find out who had rented it, and make contact and interview the people who were involved.
16:23Blood analysis reveals that the remains are not the victims, but that of a slaughtered animal.
16:34And the person who had rented the meat cutter was a butcher who had neglected to clean it before returning it.
16:44Now investigators have received a report about a woman who claims to know a great deal about Chad Larkey's murder.
16:51If true, it could provide them with a crucial break in the case.
16:58My partner and I went and met with her and interviewed her, and she tells us that she was there when it took place.
17:04She witnessed it, and she provides a lot of details.
17:08But she seems unaware that two arms have been discarded in the dumpster, proving to police that, despite her story, the woman was not a witness to the murder.
17:18We were able to determine that she was just bragging for the sake of bravado, really.
17:25So that kind of thing is very, very frustrating in these investigations.
17:30We don't have time to be chasing down these false leans.
17:33We have to identify a suspect.
17:34We need to identify, in this case, a scene, so that we can go there and get our people in.
17:40Forensics do deteriorate over time.
17:42So we need to get there as quick as we can.
17:49Investigators in the murder of Chad Larkey have come to believe that his death and grisly dismemberment was the work of an amateur.
17:59It was pretty clear that one arm had been pulled out of the joint.
18:05The other arm had been sawed off.
18:08Police are motivated to find answers for the victim's mother.
18:13They needed to know that he was not alive when they came up.
18:19Investigators have determined that the last person to see victim Chad Larkey alive was 22-year-old Dean Commanda.
18:31Commanda and Larkey were friends.
18:33And there is nothing in their past that would indicate that Commanda would have killed Larkey.
18:40Meanwhile, police lose valuable time in the hunt for Larkey's murderer on dead-end leads and false confessions.
18:48We don't have time to be chasing down these false leads.
18:51That kind of thing is very, very frustrating in these investigations.
18:54Then O'Brien gets a call from a rancher who thinks a burn site on his property just outside of Calgary could relate to the case.
19:03It had some knives burnt in this site.
19:07I thought, what are the chances of that?
19:09I mean, that didn't make a lot of sense to me, but you never know.
19:12To be certain, O'Brien sends a team to check it out.
19:16When our crime scenes unit gets out to the scene, it's an open area, it's very windy.
19:20Most of the ash from the burn site has actually already blown away.
19:23On the scene, lead forensic investigator Jolaine Anderson.
19:35In there, we found cutlery, burnt cutlery, burnt cookware.
19:42Including a collection of charred knives.
19:46And the torch site reveals other details.
19:49The scene was in January, so it was somewhat cool.
19:55There was light snow on the ground, so we were still able to recover tire impressions as well as footwear impressions.
20:03All of which could be invaluable if the burn site has anything to do with Chad Largi's murder.
20:09But there is nothing at the scene to suggest that it does.
20:14Suddenly, something catches Anderson's observant eye.
20:19Other officers were photographing and seizing as they do.
20:23And overall, I was standing back watching and I saw a receipt kind of blow by in the wind.
20:33I picked it up and had a look at it and thought, this is very odd.
20:39It is a receipt from a 7-Eleven store from two weeks before.
20:43But how could a random receipt connect this burn site to their case?
20:50I then followed up that receipt to a 7-Eleven.
20:56Then going through with the time stamp, I was able to get video evidence of the suspect buying minutes for his phone.
21:04And the man who purchased those minutes is Dean Commanda, Chad Largi's closest friend.
21:11And the last person to see him alive.
21:14Right around that same time, some of the detectives working on the case did some computer checks on our database.
21:20And they found that Dean Commanda had rented a rental truck, which had dual tires.
21:27The same kind of tires that made the marks in the snow at the Springbank burn site.
21:37That's when police are shocked to discover...
21:40That rental truck had been lit on fire.
21:42Although that fire had extinguished itself, there had been an attempt to destroy this truck.
21:51Fortunately for investigators, the cab of the truck was relatively intact.
22:01So we were able to find a pair of loafer-type shoes that were in there.
22:07Those shoes match up with footwear impressions that we find.
22:12Out at the Springbank burn site.
22:18A further search of the truck turns up what could be another important clue.
22:25Beside the driver's seat, we also find a label for a jerry can.
22:30It became my task then to take that label and find out the origins.
22:36And I went to the Canadian tire, which then suggested that that particular SKU number would go to a petrol can.
22:43And then you take the time period, which leads us to video evidence, which they had in their petrol can store.
22:50What the video shows fascinates police.
22:55We have Dean Commander going to a gas station on the western edge of our city, buying a jerry can, buying some gas.
23:05We have household items being burnt in Springbank in the western part of our city.
23:10We have the truck that Dean had rented, burnt, again an arson, but a block from where it should be returned to.
23:20Which might link Dean Commander to the burn site and burned out truck.
23:25But so far there is nothing that connects him to Chad Lardy's murder and brutal dismemberment.
23:32That's when investigators spot a strange bit of coiled wire amongst the burn site debris.
23:39We weren't sure what it was until you take a closer look at it.
23:43What it is, is a coiled doorstop.
23:46So why would a remnant of household hardware be of interest to homicide investigators?
23:53Somebody was cleaning up and somebody had thrown out pieces of baseboard, which would include this coiled doorstop.
24:02He has an idea about who that somebody is.
24:06Dean Commander and O'Brien believes Commander was cleaning up Chad Lardy's blood, then trying to destroy the evidence.
24:19So now what I need to do is to work on a search warrant to get into Dean's apartment, where he believes is where the crime was committed.
24:27Forensics do deteriorate over time, and so we need to get there as quick as we can.
24:32It has been more than a week since the discovery of Chad Lardy's arms in a Calgary dumpster, but police have yet to find the rest of his body or identify his savage killer.
24:47Despite investigators' belief that a burn site on the outskirts of Calgary has nothing to do with their case, they send a team to check it out.
24:58They find charred cookware and cutlery, including a collection of knives, and lead forensic investigator Jolaine Anderson spots a receipt.
25:11It was blowing along the prairie, and I had stepped on it, picked it up, and realized that this was, in fact, potential key evidence.
25:22Officers trace it to a convenience store and pull the surveillance video.
25:26And sure enough, we have Dean Commanda going into that particular 7-Eleven store and purchasing some minutes for a cell phone.
25:34Meanwhile, police discover that Commanda had recently rented a vehicle with the same dual tire marks found at the scene of the burn site.
25:43Although the truck has been torched, investigators are able to retrieve a pair of shoes from the cab.
25:53There was a very clear characteristic that we found on the footwear, and we were able to do a comparative chart with one footwear impression that we found at scene.
26:02They also pulled from the truck a jerry can.
26:06Police trace it to a gas station, and surveillance video shows Commanda purchasing the can and then filling it with fuel.
26:15But the evidence indicates only that Dean Commanda may be responsible for the arsonists.
26:21It's not until investigators discover a doorstop at the burn site that they begin to believe that Commanda may have killed and dismembered Chad Larkey in his condo,
26:34then ripped out and set ablaze any trace of the crime.
26:38Really, Dean is now, no doubt about it, has become our number one suspect in this case.
26:44Police apply for a warrant to enter Commanda's apartment, although they know it will take days to process their request.
26:51In the meantime, having discovered that Commanda's car is nowhere to be found, they get a search underway for it.
27:01We felt that because it had gone missing, that it may have some information that may be related to the case.
27:08Detective O'Brien had me put together a bulletin.
27:10It was sent out to our district offices, our traffic unit.
27:13It was sent out to our partner agencies around southern Alberta to see if anyone could locate this vehicle.
27:18Within hours of us putting that out and within hours of us talking to the media about it,
27:24I received a call from an RCMP officer who said that she had found a vehicle and it had been at the side of the road on fire.
27:32The license plate was missing, the BIN number was missing, and it matched the offender's vehicle.
27:38So, again, we have another link to Dean here and torching of his car.
27:45Why would Dean Commanda have set his own car on fire?
27:49Did it contain something he was trying to destroy?
27:54Cliff O'Brien tries repeatedly to contact Commanda.
27:57I am phoning him relentlessly to come in and talk to me, and I am leaving him voicemails, and I am phoning his friends.
28:08I'm going to his house, I'm leaving my business card, so he now knows that he needs to come talk to me.
28:14But when Commanda ignores investigators' calls, they park a surveillance team outside his residence.
28:22Then O'Brien calls to tell Commanda the jig is up.
28:26Within an hour of that phone call and me leaving that voicemail for him,
28:31Dean and his girlfriend come screaming out of the residence,
28:34get into a car and drive very, very quickly, very erratically, to a local hospital.
28:43Our surveillance team goes into the hospital and can see Dean being wheeled into an emergency
28:49with some type of bandage on his hand, and Dean is screaming.
28:53And investigators think they know how their suspect injured himself.
28:59During the attack on Chad, and during Chad's murder, that Dean cut his hand, likely from the knife slipping.
29:07So why was Commanda admitted to the hospital not for a knife wound, but a third-degree burn on the palm of his hand?
29:14Police have a theory.
29:16But when he knew that we were coming for him, he put on a frying pan onto his stove,
29:23and he put his cut hand right onto the frying pan to cover up the fact that he had this knife wound.
29:31And with his girlfriend clearly involved in the ruse,
29:34Dean Commanda's alibi for the night of the murder goes out the window.
29:39It is the behavior of a desperate man.
29:44He's burning his own hand. He's burning property.
29:47He's taking all these large steps to conceal evidence.
29:50But in retrospect, what he's doing is pointing right at him.
29:54But investigators still don't have enough of a case against Commanda to arrest him.
30:01And their warrant to search his apartment has yet to come through.
30:06Police decide to keep a team on Commanda's tail.
30:11Dean and his girlfriend go to a movie theater.
30:14Sorry, I asked our surveillance people to go in and to see if there was any cast-off DNA.
30:21Our surveillance unit was able to seize a straw that Dean had been using,
30:25and we were able to send that to the crime lab and get Dean's DNA off of that straw.
30:34Then, on January 30th, investigators are finally granted the warrant to search Commanda's residence.
30:41This has taken us somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 days.
30:46So I'm very, very worried that maybe Commanda has cleaned up the apartment so well
30:52that our crime scenes people will have difficulty finding evidence.
31:03When police discovered Dean Commanda's burnt-out car,
31:07they suspected contained incriminating evidence.
31:10Perhaps the blood of murder victim and close friend, Chad Largi.
31:16Then, the 22-year-old Commanda badly burns his own hand with a frying pan,
31:22and police believe he's trying to hide the knife wound he received struggling with Chad.
31:27The burns obliterate what we suspected was a cut from a knife fight.
31:32Police put a surveillance team on Commanda, follow him to a movie theater,
31:39then lift his DNA from a discarded drinking straw.
31:44It's not until 10 days after Largi's death and gruesome dismemberment
31:49that police are granted the warrant to search the site
31:52that they believe to be the scene of the crime, the suspect's condo.
31:57That's allowed Commanda a lot of time to destroy evidence.
32:03Lead forensic investigator Jolaine Anderson will have her job cut out for her.
32:09When the door opens to the apartment-style condo,
32:13immediately we see that there's carpets been removed,
32:18underlays been removed, and the condo is in somewhat disarray.
32:23I can see that baseboards are missing.
32:25I can see lots of cleaning supplies around.
32:28It's very, very evident to me, just standing in the hallway,
32:31looking in, that there had been a substantial amount of cleanup.
32:33Anderson records video evidence of the crime scene
32:38and considers where to best concentrate her search.
32:42Just by looking at the pattern with which the carpet
32:45and the baseboards were removed,
32:48the scene of the homicide would have been just outside the bathroom
32:51in the hallway area,
32:54and probably the dismemberment in the bathtub bathroom area.
32:58The first thing that we did was a basic white light exam.
33:08Pure white light in a slow, methodical method
33:11will give you lots of information.
33:18We would go through the different wavelengths of light
33:21with different types of filters on our eyes to protect our eyes,
33:26as well as filters on the camera so we can capture what we're seeing,
33:30so we can present it later in court.
33:32While forensics officers examine every inch of the bathroom,
33:37in the kitchen, they discover bloody bandages in the garbage.
33:42So, which of course is very unusual because it's a homicide scene.
33:46Obviously, it wouldn't have helped the victim to have a bandage.
33:48Police compare DNA from the blood
33:52to the DNA found on Commanda's drinking straw.
33:57It's Dean's profile, so it's Dean's blood.
34:00Evidence of the wound he received during the attack on Chad Larkey.
34:05But without proof of Commanda having murdered Larkey,
34:09their case against him is largely circumstantial.
34:13It is a difficult thing to sit there
34:15and wait for the updates from crime scenes.
34:18And I am on pins and needles
34:20waiting to see if we have the evidence that we need.
34:25Anderson's painstaking process pays off.
34:28We found the blood stain on the back of the toilet in the bathroom.
34:35Clearly a place that Dean forgot to clean.
34:37I was very, very excited.
34:41The CSI program is somewhat glamorous and somewhat glorified.
34:46This was far from that.
34:48We were crawling behind someone's toilet
34:50and looking for forensic evidence.
34:53But does the blood belong to Chad Larkey?
34:58If so, investigators will finally have the evidence they'll need
35:03to convict Commanda for the murder and brutal dismemberment of his best friend.
35:08While they wait for DNA results,
35:13forensics officers continue to search Commanda's apartment.
35:18And in a box of clothes, find a stained pair of jeans.
35:24Is it blood?
35:25We used a little test strip where we would use distilled water
35:32and introduce the blood or the evidence that we found to it.
35:36If it turns a greeny-blue,
35:38then that's a positive presumptive test for blood.
35:44They quickly confirmed that the blood found in the bathroom
35:47and on the clothing is Chad Larkey's.
35:52Finding the blood on Commanda's jeans
35:55was crucial to us.
35:57It told us, you know, what Dean was wearing at the time.
36:03Police apprehend both Commanda and his girlfriend
36:06at a Calgary bar.
36:09She is held for having provided the suspect with a false alibi.
36:14He is charged with second-degree murder.
36:18The first time I met Dean Commanda,
36:21I told Chad that he would be the death of him.
36:25And those were my exact words,
36:29that Chad, he's going to be the death of you.
36:34But will the killer confess to his crime?
36:37And will he reveal what he did
36:39with the rest of Chad Larkey's butchered body?
36:45I had some of our best interviewers conduct the interview with Dean.
36:51And I monitored from another room.
36:55Dean said nothing, and this was a long interview.
36:58I had been keeping Chad's mom, Lorraine, updated as to the status of the interview.
37:06She asks for the chance to speak with Commanda face-to-face.
37:10I've never done this before, and I've never done it since, but I drove out.
37:15I picked up the victim's mom, Lorraine,
37:18and we drove down to headquarters where I allowed Lorraine and Chad's sister to go in
37:25and see if they could talk to Dean,
37:28and at the very least try to figure out where the rest of Chad's remains were.
37:31Police record their conversation.
37:36Please, Dean, please.
37:38I need to know where his body is.
37:42I need to put him together.
37:44I need to put him together.
37:46I just kept on saying, please, you know,
37:50just tell me where his parts are so we can put him together
37:52and I can have a proper burial.
37:54That's all I'm asking you.
37:57That was probably the most intense thing I've seen
38:01in one of our interview rooms where we have
38:03a grieving mother pleading with her son's killer,
38:08who she knows, to give her son a proper burial.
38:17It was heart-wrenching.
38:21I need to know what happened because I'm going to die.
38:24I don't know what happened.
38:27Please.
38:27Please.
38:28I don't know what happened.
38:31I don't know what happened.
38:31I don't know what happened.
38:32I don't know what happened.
38:35Despite the mother's pleas,
38:38Dean Commander refuses to confess to what he did
38:41with the rest of Chad Largi's body,
38:44nor will he reveal why he murdered him.
38:47Dean had no soul.
38:49He was empty.
38:51His eyes were empty.
38:52You know, at the end of these cases,
38:56sometimes we just don't have all the answers
38:58because the only person that knows is Dean
39:00and he's not talking.
39:04Investigators suspect that Commander left Chad Largi
39:07stranded at the bar.
39:09Then Largi had his father take him to Commander's
39:12so he could have it out with him.
39:14The two fought and Dean Commander stabbed his friend to death,
39:20then butchered him to get rid of the body.
39:25After using his car to distribute Largi's body parts
39:29in dumpsters around the city,
39:31Commander set the vehicle on fire
39:33to destroy any evidence left inside.
39:36Then he tore apart his condo
39:41to get rid of the enormous amount of blood,
39:44loaded the materials into a rental vehicle
39:46and drove them to the outskirts of Calgary.
39:52After torching the garbage at the Springbank site,
39:55Commander returned to town
39:57and set the rental truck on fire
39:59in order to destroy any DNA
40:01and to try to cover his tracks.
40:06Lead forensic investigator Jolaine Anderson
40:10is proud of the work she and her team
40:12contributed to the investigation.
40:15This truly was a forensic case file
40:19and just for us to be able to link
40:22all of these very diverse scenes,
40:25everything from the west outdoor burn scene
40:28in Springbank to the condo to the U-Haul,
40:32everything fell into place almost systematically.
40:36In court, Commander maintains that Chad Largi
40:41was the aggressor
40:42and that he killed his friend in self-defense.
40:48And on February 13, 2007,
40:52a little more than a year
40:53since Chad Largi's gruesome death,
40:56Dean Commander pleads guilty to manslaughter.
40:59He is sentenced to 10 years less time already served.
41:04Commander's girlfriend is not charged.
41:11Chad Largi's remains have never been found.
41:17In 2009, Sergeant Jolaine Anderson
41:20was promoted to the rank of Staff Sergeant
41:23and is now in charge of Calgary's
41:26Forensic Crime Scene Unit.
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