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  • 7/20/2025
On Sunday, Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) spoke to CNN's Jake Tapper.
Transcript
00:00So right now, we're in the middle of a procedure.
00:03The president, frustrated with this issue, has asked his attorney general, Pam Bondi,
00:08to release what he calls the pertinent grand jury testimony from cases involving Epstein
00:13and his longtime associate, Ghislaine Maxwell, who's in prison.
00:16That information, however, even if it's released, will only be about crimes committed by Epstein
00:20and Maxwell, and experts say it will almost certainly not mention the other wealthy and
00:25powerful individuals who may have gotten away with crimes that they were not charged with.
00:29If you're a former prosecutor, what do you think is responsible to be released?
00:34Well, Jake, this has gotten to the point because of promises made by the president.
00:41By the way, another host of promises not kept, whether he promised he was bringing prices down,
00:46he has not, promised he would keep people on Medicaid, they're getting kicked off, and now
00:51promises that they're going to release these Epstein files made while they were in office,
00:57while the attorney general was in office, promises made by the man who is now the FBI director.
01:03So you get to a point, and this is how I view it as a former prosecutor, you have to protect
01:08the victims if you release documents.
01:10That's fairly easy to do.
01:11You just redact the names of victims, and you've seen documents like that before.
01:17But this has gotten to the point where they have just sown distrust in the justice system.
01:22They've promised that these documents would be out there.
01:26They literally gave people binders that said part one, and now suddenly, with a whistleblower
01:31reporting that 100,000 documents were reviewed by the FBI to look for the president's name,
01:38they've suddenly pulled back and said, no, we're not releasing them.
01:41So, to me, as a former prosecutor, there are times when you release things for the good
01:46of the country.
01:47This is one of those times, and you don't go and say, oh, we just got to see if a judge
01:51will let us do part of the evidence, part of the files that are over here in this grand
01:55jury proceeding after dissing judges forever.
01:58Give me a break.
01:59I want to play something your Senate colleague Ron Wyden of Oregon said on the Senate floor earlier
02:03this week.
02:06Somewhere in the Treasury Department, Mr. President, locked away in a cabinet drawer
02:10is a big Epstein file that's full of actionable information.
02:17Follow the money details about his financing and operations that await investigation.
02:24JOHN YANG, JR.: Julie Brown, the investigative reporter whose Miami Herald story in 2018 really
02:29brought this Epstein case back into the forefront.
02:32She says that file of financial records would be a trove of information in terms of finding
02:37other guilty parties.
02:39Do you think the Treasury Department should release what they have on Epstein, too?
02:42Like I said, things should be released.
02:46We should know what happened here.
02:48And it is a claim that this president has made time and time again, and the American people
02:54have the right to know what happened.
02:56So President Trump posted on Truth Social Friday, quote, if there was a smoking gun on Epstein,
03:01why didn't the Democrats who controlled the files for four years and had Garland and Comey
03:06in charge use it because they had nothing, unquote.
03:09And after the Miami Herald story broke in 2018, you said there was something not right
03:13in the Epstein case.
03:14But it's true that the president says there, Democrats didn't really seem to do anything
03:19about the Epstein files throughout the four years of the Biden administration.
03:22I mean, should you have?
03:24You sit on the Senate Judiciary Committee.
03:25Senator Marsha Blackburn for years has been trying to get flight records and other information
03:30about Epstein were released, and she seems to have been the only one on that committee
03:34trying to do so.
03:37So the president blaming Democrats for this disaster, Jake, is like that CEO that got
03:43caught on camera blaming Coldplay, OK?
03:45Like, this is his making.
03:49He was president when Epstein got indicted for these charges and went to prison.
03:55He was president when Epstein committed suicide.
03:59And then there was another case, as you know, that continued during the Biden administration.
04:04But he was president back then.
04:05So all of us would believe they know what's in these documents.
04:09They know it's there.
04:10They've been claiming forever that they should be released.
04:12And it is the Trump administration that gave a bunch of binders that said volume one to
04:17reporters just in the last month.
04:20It is the Trump administration that has made this promise that they're going to release it.
04:24So I am blaming Democrats for this to me.
04:27I'm sorry.
04:28This is the people that have been fomenting this, our right-wing influencers, members
04:33of Congress, people who have a reason that they want to know what's in there.
04:36They believe the president when he said there's stuff in there that people should see.
04:41Wall Street Journal, these are not bastions of liberalism or wild progressives that have
04:47come out and said the public have a right to know what is in these documents.
04:53You visited New Hampshire last weekend to campaign for Congressman Chris Pappas in his Senate race.
04:58New Hampshire, of course, an early primary state.
05:01Now that Joe Biden is no longer in office, New Hampshire goes back to the front of the line.
05:06Are you considering at all a presidential run in 2028?
05:09And what do Democrats need to do to get their – to get your dismal approval ratings up?
05:15REP.
05:16I think every Democrat, national Democrat, including myself, is focused on this upcoming
05:21election, which is the midterms, OK?
05:24That's why I was there to help Chris Pappas, who is a tremendous candidate.
05:28And what you have seen is we have got now incredible candidates that are running all over the country.
05:35We are going to be focusing on a forward-looking agenda to counteract all the crap that's been
05:40going on with this administration.
05:43And when you look at the enthusiasm of our voters that are showing up, the people in the
05:47middle, moderate Republicans, independents, that hate the chaos and the corruption and
05:52the costs going up, I am feeling better and better about how Democrats are doing every
05:57single day.
05:58And the polls show that the president, some of them, including one Fox News poll, similar
06:04to some of the things that you've been showing, the president's approval ratings are way under
06:09water when it comes to his handling of the economy.
06:13And that's what people are talking about in New Hampshire and Minnesota, any state across
06:17the country.
06:18They go in the grocery store, and the president can tell them inflation isn't a factor, but
06:22they just see the prices going up, a doubling of the price of coffee.
06:27That's what they're seeing out there right now.
06:29And he can say what he wants, he can do what he wants on Truth Social, and blame Fox News
06:36when they put a post on and say, hey, we don't like them, except maybe some of their inkers
06:41are great, and bully on the media.
06:43But the facts are there for the American people the minute they walk into a grocery store.
06:48So, 2028, you're not ruling it out, fair to say?
06:51No.
06:52I am focused on my job in the Senate, and I'm really focused on our great candidates that
06:57are up all across the country.
06:59And anyone else that's not doing that right now, I think that they better look at what
07:04Donald Trump is doing to our economy and doing to our democracy and our Constitution.
07:09Senator Amy Klobuchar, the great state of Minnesota, thanks so much.

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