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  • 7/20/2025
During an interview with CNN on Sunday, Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) spoke about President Trump deflecting blame for the Epstein files on the Democrats.
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00:00So right now, we're in the middle of a procedure.
00:03The president, frustrated with this issue, has asked his attorney general, Pam Bondi,
00:08to release what he calls the pertinent grand jury testimony from cases involving Epstein
00:13and his longtime associate, Ghislaine Maxwell, who's in prison.
00:16That information, however, even if it's released, will only be about crimes committed by Epstein
00:20and Maxwell, and experts say it will almost certainly not mention the other wealthy and
00:25powerful individuals who may have gotten away with crimes that they were not charged with.
00:29You're a former prosecutor.
00:31What do you think is responsible to be released?
00:34Well, Jake, this has gotten to the point because of promises made by the president.
00:41By the way, another host of promises not kept, whether he promised he was bringing prices down.
00:46He has not promised he would keep people on Medicaid.
00:50They're getting kicked off.
00:51And now promises that they're going to release these Epstein files made while they were in
00:56office, while the attorney general was in office.
00:59Promises made by the man who is now the FBI director.
01:03So you get to a point, and this is how I view it as a former prosecutor, you have to protect
01:08the victims if you release documents.
01:10That's fairly easy to do.
01:11You just redact the names of victims and you've seen documents like that before.
01:17But this has gotten to the point where they have just sown distrust in the justice system.
01:22They've promised that these documents would be out there.
01:25They literally gave people binders that said part one.
01:29And now suddenly, with a whistleblower reporting that 100,000 documents were reviewed by the
01:34FBI to look for the president's name, they've suddenly pulled back and said, no, we're not
01:40releasing them.
01:41So, to me, as a former prosecutor, there are times when you release things for the good
01:46of the country.
01:47This is one of those times, and you don't go and say, oh, we just got to see if a judge
01:51will let us do part of the evidence, part of the files that are over here in this grand
01:55jury proceeding after dissing judges forever.
01:58Give me a break.
01:59I want to play something your Senate colleague Ron Wyden of Oregon said on the Senate floor
02:03earlier this week.
02:06Somewhere in the Treasury Department, Mr. President, locked away in a cabinet drawer, is a big Epstein
02:12file that's full of actionable information.
02:17Follow the money details about its financing and operations that await investigation.
02:23JOHN YANG, JR.: Julie Brown, the investigative reporter whose Miami Herald story in 2018 really
02:29brought this Epstein case back into the forefront.
02:32She says that file of financial records would be a trove of information in terms of finding
02:37other guilty parties.
02:39JOHN YANG, JR.: Do you think the Treasury Department should release what they have on Epstein, too?
02:44LIKE I SAID, THINGS SHOULD BE RELEASED.
02:46WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT HAPPENED HERE.
02:48AND IT IS A CLAIM THAT THIS PRESIDENT HAS MADE TIME AND TIME AGAIN.
02:53AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
02:56JOHN YANG, JR.: SO, PRESIDENT TRUMP POSTED ON TRUTH SOCIAL FRIDAY, QUOTE, IF THERE WAS A SMOKING
03:00GUN ON Epstein, WHY DIDN'T THE DEMOCRATS WHO CONTROLLED THE FILES FOR FOUR YEARS AND HAD GARLAND AND COMEY IN
03:06CHARGE USE IT BECAUSE THEY HAD NOTHING, UNQUOTE.
03:09AFTER THE MIAMI HERALD STORY BROKE IN 2018, YOU SAID THERE WAS SOMETHING NOT RIGHT IN THE
03:13EPSTEIN CASE.
03:14BUT IT'S TRUE THAT THE PRESIDENT SAYS THERE, DEMOCRATS DIDN'T REALLY SEEM TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT
03:19THE EPSTEIN FILES THROUGHOUT THE FOUR YEARS OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION.
03:23I MEAN, SHOULD YOU HAVE?
03:24YOU SIT ON THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.
03:25SENATOR MARSHA BLACKBURN FOR YEARS HAS BEEN TRYING TO GET FLIGHT RECORDS AND OTHER INFORMATION ABOUT
03:31EPSTEIN RELEASED AND SHE SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN THE ONLY ONE ON THAT COMMITTEE TRYING TO DO SO.
03:37SO THE PRESIDENT BLAMING DEMOCRATS FOR THIS DISASTER, JAKE, IS LIKE THAT CEO THAT GOT CAUGHT ON
03:43CAMERA BLAMING COLD PLAY, OKAY?
03:46LIKE, THIS IS HIS MAKING.
03:49HE WAS PRESIDENT WHEN EPSTEIN GOT INDICTED FOR THESE CHARGES AND WENT TO PRISON.
03:55HE WAS PRESIDENT WHEN EPSTEIN COMMITTED SUICIDE.
03:59AND THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER CASE, AS YOU KNOW, THAT CONTINUED DURING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION.
04:04BUT HE WAS PRESIDENT BACK THEN.
04:05SO ALL OF US WOULD BELIEVE THEY KNOW WHAT'S IN THESE DOCUMENTS.
04:09THEY KNOW WHAT'S THERE.
04:10THEY'VE BEEN CLAIMING FOREVER THAT THEY SHOULD BE RELEASED.
04:12AND IT IS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION THAT GAVE A BUNCH OF BINDERS THAT SAID VOLUME ONE TO
04:17REPORTERS JUST IN THE LAST MONTH.
04:20IT IS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION THAT HAS MADE THIS PROMISE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO RELEASE IT.
04:24SO I AM BLAMING DEMOCRATS FOR THIS TO ME.
04:27I'M SORRY, THIS IS THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN FOMENTING THIS ARE RIGHT-WING INFLUENCERS,
04:32MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, PEOPLE WHO HAVE A REASON THAT THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S IN THERE.
04:36THEY BELIEVE THE PRESIDENT WHEN HE SAID THERE'S STUFF IN THERE THAT PEOPLE SHOULD SEE.
04:41WALL STREET JOURNAL, THESE ARE NOT BASTIANS OF LIBERALISM OR WILD PROGRESSIVES THAT HAVE COME
04:47OUT AND SAID THE PUBLIC HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT IS IN THESE DOCUMENTS.
04:53WHAT HAPPENS?

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