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Stephen A. Smith Speaks To CNN's Jake Tapper About Potential 2028 Presidential Campaign
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5/5/2025
On Sunday, sports analyst and television personality Stephen A. Smith spoke to CNN's Jake Tapper about a potential presidential campaign.
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What was your reaction when he said that the other night?
00:05
I was aghast, to be quite honest with you.
00:07
I wasn't looking for any kind of endorsement from anybody, especially him.
00:11
But he is the president of the United States.
00:13
There's a bit of flattery that comes with getting such words from the man who holds the highest office in the land,
00:19
and I can appreciate that.
00:20
But in the same breath, I'm saying to myself, you know what, evidently I'd have no chance
00:25
because if somebody like that is throwing out my name, clearly they'd think that, yeah, go ahead and do it so we can beat you.
00:31
We can romp you, too.
00:32
So I'm not falling for it.
00:33
It was nice.
00:34
It was nice to hear, and I appreciated it.
00:36
But obviously, it is what it is.
00:38
I hear where he's coming from, but I wasn't thinking about it any more seriously than that.
00:44
President Trump's been in office now for more than 100 days.
00:48
What's been your reaction to his administration so far?
00:53
I think it's been a bit haphazard.
00:54
That's something I've been on the record as saying.
00:57
Certainly, we understand that waste, fraud, and all of that stuff needs to be addressed,
01:01
but the manner in which he went about it with Elon Musk gave me cause to pause with Doge,
01:06
so I certainly wasn't happy about that.
01:08
The tariff wars, I thought he was going to focus first on lowering taxes.
01:11
That's what I would have liked to have seen, because that was something that he campaigned on,
01:15
even though he campaigned on tariffs a lot as well.
01:17
I certainly expected him to—I would have liked, rather, to see him focus more on lowering taxes first
01:23
as opposed to engaging in a tariff war, particularly a tariff war that didn't just include China,
01:28
but practically everybody else, at least for a short period of time before folks got in his ears
01:33
and got him to sort of retract a little bit.
01:36
So I see that.
01:37
I have no problem with what he's done with the borders.
01:39
I thought it was absolutely necessary, so I definitely think that that was a plus,
01:43
because I was never a proponent of open borders.
01:45
But outside of that, I take a wait-and-see approach, because, you know, history has taught me
01:51
that the prism of history is how you determine the success of a president as opposed to looking
01:56
at things in the moment in real time, because usually that's going to garner extreme reactions
02:01
one way or the other, and I try not to lean in either direction of the extreme.
02:06
I'm a centrist and a moderate at heart, and I try to make sure I'm as balanced in my thinking
02:11
as I possibly can be.
02:12
If you were to run for president, though, it would be as a Democrat or no?
02:18
You know what? I'm an independent. I'm a registered independent.
02:21
I would lean at who leans left. I'm fiscally conservative when it comes to my money.
02:26
I'm socially liberal. I'm liberal when it comes to social issues pretty much across the board.
02:31
I believe in living and let living. So I'm a moderate, and I would say if I had to run,
02:35
it would be as a Democrat, but I'm not happy with the Democratic Party.
02:39
So the Democratic Party is presently constructed. It would pretty much need to be purged in order
02:44
for me to assume that I would want to be associated with them and I would garner their support,
02:50
because I don't like the way they've gone about doing a lot of things for a very, very
02:54
long period of time. And I think that I don't view Donald Trump as winning the election.
02:58
I view the Democrats as losing the election, as absolutely positively blowing it with some
03:04
of their actions. And that's why I think that, you know, again, if somebody was to associate me
03:09
with that, the party has presently constructed where Lee's so extremely left, or at least
03:14
has spent the vast majority of time doing that, oh, that is not something that I would vibe with
03:18
at all. I would definitely be looking to be a game changer in that regard.
03:22
What are some of the things that Democrats have been doing that have turned you off and
03:27
that make you say the party needs to be purged? Who needs to be purged from it, first of all?
03:31
Do you have any names? Well, I'm not going to name names. I'm not going to do that to a lot
03:37
of people. But we know who the extreme left is. We know how they go about operating.
03:42
We know what we lean towards when it came to open borders. We know that the spending was
03:48
excessive, even though it's excessive on the Republican side as well. I think a $37 trillion
03:52
budget, when Republicans try to act like it's just the Democrats, that's not true. But the
03:57
Democrats certainly shouldn't be absolved from blame in that regard, certainly with identity
04:01
politics, woke culture, cancer culture. I thought that that was something that ravaged our nation
04:06
psychologically, because you had people literally scared they were going to lose their jobs if
04:10
they pronounced the wrong pronoun for crying out loud. It got that bad. And I think that that's
04:16
one of the reasons that Donald Trump is in office today, because so much stuff, a lot is focused
04:22
on the individual, as opposed to actual policies itself. I'm talking about what they preached and
04:27
what they talked to the American people about more so than what they're doing. The kind of messages
04:32
that they were disseminating was incredibly uncomfortable to listen to and to hear. And
04:36
I thought that it wasn't emblematic of what most Americans are thinking about. They're trying
04:41
to pay their mortgages, rent, buy food and groceries, pay gas, and deal with the prices, you know,
04:47
the cost of living. And they want safety in the streets. That's primarily what most American
04:52
citizens are about, trying to live in peace and harmony. And that's not something that I think
04:56
either side is promoted along the way.
04:58
You last month said that there are clearly other people more qualified to be president
05:02
than you. So what do you say to somebody out there who's watching, who thinks you have
05:07
no political experience, no foreign policy experience? You're a gifted TV sports commentator,
05:12
without question. But are you really prepared to be president of the United States? How would
05:17
you answer that?
05:18
I would say they're absolutely right. I'm not prepared. I'm not qualified. I have no political
05:25
history whatsoever. I've never been interested in politics a day in my life. How did I come
05:30
to this conclusion where I've left the door open? I'll tell you how. Elected officials
05:35
have come up to me. Folks in the streets of America come up to me every single day. Not
05:39
only that, my own pastor, A.R. Bernard from Christian Cultural Center in Brooklyn, New York,
05:44
said to me, show respect to people who love and support you by leaving the door open, because
05:48
you never know what God has planned for you or for us as a nation in the years to come. Just
05:53
leave the door open. So that's what I did. I know that I have a voice, whether it's on
05:58
ESPN, whether it's with the Stephen A. Smith show on YouTube and iHeartRadio or any place
06:04
else that I go. I know that when I speak, millions upon millions of people hear me. One would surmise
06:09
that they listen to some of the things that I say. And then I look at our politics. How
06:13
worse can it get? Do you realize right now, and I'm saying this facetiously because I know
06:17
that you do, Jake, doing what you do every single day. Do you realize that if you are an elected
06:22
official, your real work is with the campaign? Once you get into office, literally, you can get
06:29
away. I'm talking about the nation's capital specifically, not state and local politics,
06:32
just the nation's capital. You realize that you can literally go on Capitol Hill and all your job
06:37
is to do is to disagree with the other side. You don't even have to do anything else. Whatever the
06:41
other side feels, you feel the opposite. That's not work. That's not going across the aisle. That's
06:47
not maneuvering your way through the political terrain and really negotiating on behalf of your
06:52
constituency and the American people. All we're doing is engaging in acrimony and hate. And as
06:59
a result, the American citizens are suffering. So when I look at it from that standpoint,
07:02
and I think the kind of impact that I could have as a centrist, as a moderate, as somebody who believes
07:08
in being sensical and engaging in common sense, unfortunately, I believe that if I did take this
07:16
very, very seriously and I moved forward and I decided that I wanted to be a politician, do I
07:21
believe I could win? You're damn right. But it's by default. It's not because I'm the most qualified
07:26
candidate in the world. It's because of the state of our politics in the nation's capital, the politicians
07:31
that we're looking at, and the fact that we don't believe for one second that they are serving the
07:35
interest of the American people, nor are they interested in it. People look at me and they
07:39
know one thing. I would be interested in serving the American people and doing what's in the best
07:44
interest of this country. That means you. That means me. That means the black community, the Hispanic
07:48
community, the white community, everybody. Because if all of us are rife with chaos, all that's going to
07:53
lead to is America's destruction. And why would we want to be a part of that? So, again, I'm not qualified.
07:58
There are plenty of people that are qualified, more qualified to be at, practically everybody. But are you going
08:03
to win? And are you going to be committed to doing what's in the best interest of America?
08:08
I know I'm that kind of person. That much I will say for myself. I'm not interested in division. I'm
08:14
interested in galvanizing. That's what I'm about. That's what I try to be about. And sometimes you do
08:18
that by calling it like you see it. And that's certainly something that I have proven I would do.
08:25
I'd call it like I see it. People wouldn't know that.
08:27
100 percent. Stephen A. Smith, we'll have you back. Thank you so much. Good to see you. Thanks for getting up earlier.
08:32
I know you're in California. Thank you.
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