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00:00Trump is opening himself up to a sworn deposition about the extent of his relationship with Jeffrey

00:06Epstein, something I imagine he probably doesn't want to get into. But I think in a perverse way,

00:12it will be helpful to him that this case is thrown out at its beginnings, because under the libel law

00:20as it exists today, that is surely what's going to happen. Shelby, might the administration's

00:24intention or hope here be to get a settlement? I mean, you've seen other news organizations settle

00:29to the tune of many millions of dollars. Right. This is not the first time we have seen

00:34Trump go after the media. The difference here is, of course, he's in office, right? So it's

00:39extremely notable that this is happening. It's extremely notable how quickly it happened.

00:43We knew that this sort of story was in the works for a few days. The administration knew that it

00:47was in the works for a few days. It's entirely possible that he is looking for a settlement here.

00:52But it is also intentionally or not, I'll go back to the fact that this has all united his base.

00:58And one of the really big frustrations that the Trump administration was having

01:01was that this was sort of the one issue that they could not get the base back on. And it was

01:06really the first time in this administration and in the first administration over the past

01:11nearly decade that Trump had sort of failed to wrangle back in some of his most diehard supporters,

01:18because this Epstein issue is something that they've really cared about, they've really focused

01:22in on. And so, you know, intentionally or not, that's the end result of this.

01:28Adam Kinzinger, I spoke to Democratic Congressman Stanton today, who said that there's still a bipartisan

01:33effort to to call for the release of these documents here. But do you see Republicans sticking behind

01:41that any more than they say stuck behind demands for, I don't know, saving some money in the most

01:47reason budget or you expect them to fold? Oh, I think eventually they'll fold. But look,

01:53I mean, by the way, quick point. Today, the Trump administration could release everything besides

02:00the grand jury testimony, from what I understand. And they're not. They can. They're going to try to

02:04blame the judge, you know, if he says no. But look, the bottom line on this is there may be a few

02:09Republicans, you know, like I think of Tom Massey and some of those that'll that'll stick to their

02:14guns on this. But ultimately, listen, they are begging for an excuse to walk away from this

02:20fight. I've been in these positions. I know these folks. They're kind of like in a corner now and

02:25they're begging for it. And the Wall Street Journal article, which well said, was lawyered up and I

02:30think is very solid. The Wall Street Journal article was just the excuse they could use. It would have

02:35been something else if that article didn't come out. You've made the point that Donald Trump was in

02:39fact friends with Epstein for a long time. So I wonder in Trump world tonight, following this

02:45Wall Street Journal story, is there concern that there might be other shoes to drop, other revelations

02:51showing a connection between the two of them? Yeah, I mean, I've heard from people within Trump

02:55world that there is there is a panic. I mean, there certainly was leading up to the Wall Street

02:59Journal report and there's still concern. Who knows? I mean, this is a guy that Trump knew for

03:03over a decade. Clearly, he had commented multiple times about young women and Epstein. And so it

03:09remains to be seen. But I think there is still concern. Now, you wrote that the right wing reaction

03:14initially, quote, was an example of the most unfathomable spectacle, the best media manipulator

03:22in all of politics, fundamentally misreading the media landscape before him. Now, that was before you

03:28had, like we were showing there, MAGA world uniting around him. Has he successfully exited this

03:34dangerous period? You know, I think for the short term, he sees a way out. And clearly, it's this

03:39release of the grand jury transcripts, or at least, you know, Donald Trump, not typically the guy who

03:43holds judges in the highest esteem, now saying it's just up to the judges at this point. But I think

03:48long term, I think this could continue to be an issue. I think for Trump supporters, this was maybe

03:52like number one or number two issue for them. Justice for Epstein, for the Epstein case. I mean,

03:56they thought like top Democrats were going to be on this list. And I think they're going to keep

03:59asking questions. I mean, it's possible that the judge could rule, no, we're not going to release

04:05the grand jury testimony. It was meant to be in secret, at which point, I imagine that might present

04:11Trump with another punching bag in this case and say, hey, I wanted it out, but the judge didn't

04:16want it out. I mean, he could say, well, now we really have to move on. But of course, as we know,

04:20the grand jury transcript is just one of many possible sources of documents in this case.

04:25Now, I spoke to Adam Kinzinger just a few minutes ago, and he said that this was predictable in

04:29that world, that the loyalty is such that there was going to be something that would unite MAGA

04:34with Trump again. Do you see that as lasting? I mean, because the Epstein files were such a rallying

04:41cry for MAGA world, and by the way, the vice president and others in the president's circle,

04:47do they abandon that? I mean, it was supposed to be evidence of deep state conspiracies,

04:51democratic ties to Epstein, etc. I think it's a challenge for them. I mean, certainly I think

04:57the congressman is right that they wanted an out here, and this was an uncomfortable position for

05:01people like Steve Bannon or Charlie Kirk. On the other hand, I mean, there has been years of build

05:06up to this. Do I think the audience is really going to buy suddenly that they're like, all right,

05:10well, we just got to move on, particularly when suddenly there's a new Trump connection to Epstein?

05:14I don't think so.

05:16We have arrived at a place President Trump likely did not see things heading with the Epstein

05:22controversy less than two weeks ago. It was Monday, July 7th, when the DOJ released a memo essentially

05:28closing the book on Jeffrey Epstein, both regarding any so-called client list and any questions about

05:35his death.

05:35If you don't know how to talk about NASA, then a lot of scientists are from India. The question

05:41came in mind, why do we not make it? Why do we use the outside technology? Why do we not make it?

05:45Why do we make it? When will India be just a consumer? So why do we not focus on innovation?

05:51We take the responsibility of cost optimization. Reliability, scalability, we take the responsibility.

05:57We say that Indian businesses, Indian businesses, Indian people in the middle of India have so

06:04capability that they can make anything. So I say that you will focus there. You will make it.

06:57Township, play now!

07:27...he'd sue them, and late today he did just that, President Trump filing a libel

07:38lawsuit against the publisher of the Wall Street Journal and the two journal reporters

07:42on the byline of that story.

07:44He is seeking at least $20 billion.

07:49Since the DOJ's attempt put the Epstein story to rest, inflamed MAGA world, even some of the

07:54staunchest supporters have come out against the administration.

07:58Today with the President taking on the journal, he and MAGA world have found a familiar foe

08:04in common once again, the media.

08:06Quite frankly, the Murdochs concocted something last night and thought it'd be a kill shot

08:14on President Trump, and lo and behold, it's the exact opposite, because President Trump

08:18is now on offense.

08:21President Trump is best when it's attack, attack, attack.

08:23This is the deep state, this is the ruling class in America, they're trying to use it

08:28to destroy President Trump.

08:29The President and I talked about that ridiculous allegation this morning.

08:32He said it's patently absurd, the President is the most maligned and attacked political

08:36figure in the history of American politics, there's no question about it, but he's also

08:40the most resilient.

08:41Did you see the language of this bogus supposed communication or card or something I supposedly

08:46sent to Epstein?

08:47He said, I don't talk like that, I don't think like that.

08:49They're literally making things up.

08:52Bannon told CNN that the journal article and the President's response to it has once again

08:56united his supporters behind him on an issue that up until just last night had put him

09:01at odds with many members of his base.

09:04But Bannon also called the push to unseal that Epstein grand jury testimony, quote, a

09:10good start, but certainly not the end of the Epstein story.

09:13For more on this, we're joined now by CNN senior White House correspondent Kristen Holmes.

09:18Kristen, good to have you.

09:19I wonder how White House officials explain the President's 180 on the Epstein materials in

09:26less than two weeks.

09:27Jim, I'm just not certain that it is a 180.

09:31I think what we have to do is really see what happens next.

09:33There are a lot of people who I have talked to, and these are MAGA loyalists, people who

09:37support the President 110 percent or did until the fallout over these Epstein files, who want

09:44to see how this plays out.

09:46Yes, they are very happy that President Trump has asked to unseal this grand jury testimony.

09:51However, there are a lot of questions as to what happens if the courts refuse to unseal.

09:56And why stop at just the grand jury testimony?

09:58They want to see more of these investigative files.

10:02What they have been pushing for is full transparency.

10:04And it's not quite clear that this is what that is at this point.

10:09Now, President Trump did obviously have to do something.

10:13We saw him really on defense, as you heard Steve Bannon there.

10:17And that is not a place where President Trump or his administration or his team operates

10:21best.

10:22They do operate best on the offensive.

10:24And this is how they turned this situation, because as you noted, they now have a common

10:29enemy.

10:30But here's what to watch for.

10:31Where does this go next?

10:33Is there more?

10:34Is there another turning over of the leaf?

10:36Because as we have heard and as I have spoken to a number of his supporters on, there are still

10:41a lot of questions that are not going to be answered, even if the court does eventually

10:46decide to unseal this grand jury testimony.

10:49Tell us more of what you're hearing from sources about the libel lawsuit now against the publisher

10:55of the Wall Street Journal and those two reporters, up to $20 billion now.

11:00We heard that he was going to do this yesterday.

11:02He announced that he was going to be suing it.

11:04He even told the Wall Street Journal.

11:05One of the things to really keep in mind here is how quickly they filed that lawsuit.

11:11We've never almost seen something happen this fast.

11:13It goes to show you what we've been hearing, which was that President Trump is incredibly

11:16angry.

11:17He is incredibly angry that they published this.

11:20And part of that anger is the fact that he spoke to Rupert Murdoch, somebody he's been

11:24very close to, someone he's been spotted with in recent weeks.

11:28And he says that he was told that he was going to take care of it, Murdoch was going to take

11:32care of it.

11:33That did not happen.

11:34So that's part of the anger here.

11:36You can see that also in what the president is posting online.

11:39He keeps saying he can't wait until Rupert Murdoch has to get deposed.

11:43He can't wait until he has to testify in this trial now that he's sued him.

11:47He clearly feels an enormous amount of anger at Murdoch, who, again, has been friends with

11:52him in the past.

11:53We'll see how this plays out in the long run here.

11:56Certainly not the first time the president's been unhappy with information that comes out that

12:00that he finds critical or inconvenient.

12:04Crispin Holmes at the White House.

12:06Join me now.

12:07CNN political commentator, former Republican Congressman Adam Kinzinger, Semaphore White

12:11House correspondent Shelby Talcott and former former federal prosecutor Jeffrey Toobin.

12:16Good to have you all in tonight.

12:17Thanks so much.

12:18So, Jeff, just from a legal standpoint, now that the Justice Department has asked the

12:23judge to release the grand jury material, how does the judge then decide what gets released

12:29and what doesn't?

12:31And is it entirely up to the judge?

12:33It's a very unusual situation, Shudo.

12:36This grand jury material is almost always secret and stays secret.

12:42There are narrow exceptions for public purposes, but it is unclear whether whether this applies.

12:51That's what the Justice Department is submitting to the judge, saying this is an extraordinary

12:57circumstance, but how the judge handles this is really unclear.

13:02He may ask for the people who are named in the grand jury testimony, including the people who gave

13:10the testimony, to ask them to be heard about whether this should be disclosed.

13:16So this process, even though it's not technically an adversary process, there's no defendant here,

13:22may take quite a long time.

13:25And it's important to remember also that this is just the grand jury transcripts.

13:31There is a lot of other material in a criminal investigation that's not grand jury transcripts,

13:39and that is not going to be released pursuant to what the court, what the Justice Department

13:44did today.

13:44Just briefly, Jeffrey, can the Justice Department attempt to get things it finds to the president's

13:50advantage released and things not to his advantage not released?

13:54Or is this entirely the judge's decision?

13:57Well, the judge can decide about the grand jury transcripts.

14:01It's pretty much, I think, an all or nothing decision about the grand jury transcripts.

14:06But everything else in the investigative material, the FBI interviews, the 302s, the documents

14:13that were produced pursuant to subpoenas and search warrants.

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