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Mitch McConnell Asks Navy Secretary: How Do We Bring Down Cost Of Drone Development?
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7/7/2025
At a Senate Appropriations Committee hearing last week, Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) asked Navy Sec. John Phelan how to sustainably fund research into drones in the future.
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Well, we've heard a lot of discussion about the amazing development of drones and what
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they can do in the Black Sea, for example.
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Without much of a navy of its own, the Ukraine use of drones has produced some pretty good
00:27
results and neutralized Russia's Black Sea fleet with cheap drones.
00:38
On land, more than two-thirds of the casualties since Russia's escalation have come from drones.
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In the Red Sea, the rebels managed to bring international shipping to a near standstill
00:53
and repeatedly target U.S. Navy vessels using a mix of cheap Iranian drones and missiles.
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Clearly those conflicts offer valuable lessons for the Navy and Marine Corps on the future
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of warfare, particularly when it comes to both fielding and countering drones.
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What are the lessons?
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You've covered some of this, but I'd like to hear it one more time.
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What are the lessons you've learned?
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What are the investments you're making?
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What are you doing to drive down costs of producing and countering drones in the air and at sea?
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Thank you for the question, Senator.
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We are all learning lessons in real time.
01:43
I'd say the one thing I would say to you as it comes to drones, and I kind of touched on
01:48
it a little bit in my opening statement.
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How we fund our drone development is going to be very important.
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And I think programmatically funding it is going to be tricky because the technology is changing
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so quickly that if we get stuck on one program, we could end up being obsolete very quickly.
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We are testing a number of different drone systems undersea, on the surface, in the air.
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Both forces are doing a lot of incredibly good work.
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How that fits in with the whole force design is something we're spending a lot of time.
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We have to think about defense, offense, and surveillance.
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All the things we are doing as we speak, they are cost effective, they're very effective,
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and so we will continue to stay very focused on that, and I promise you we are taking learning
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lessons from all of the conflicts in real time and incorporating that into how we look
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at things.
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I don't know if General Smith or Admiral Kilby.
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I'll just go really quick.
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I agree with what the Secretary said.
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We're sharing information from the Naval European Forces Commander Admiral Munch with Admiral Koehler
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in the Pacific.
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One of our areas is called non-traditional sea denial, which is a combination of unmanned
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air, surface, and undersea vessels.
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So we are making an investment in this, and I agree with the Secretary that we have to treat
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it differently than our traditional platforms.
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But I believe it will be a mix of unmanned and manned aircraft in what we call a hybrid
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fleet that will be most effective for the United States Navy.
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Senator, we have an attack drone team at Quantico that constantly is looking to do additive manufacturing
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and 3D printing of our own drones.
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Because what I don't want to do is I don't want to be committed to one vendor and then have
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something better pop up, and now I'm committed to a five-year contract with one vendor.
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I want to be able to self-produce drones and attack munitions, one-way attack drones.
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We can already do that.
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We've demonstrated that at Quantico, and with great effect and with great efficiency and
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with great economic sense.
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Well, if there are no further questions, Senators have one week to submit additional questions
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for the subcommittee's official hearing record.
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We request your responses be received within 30 days of receiving the questions.
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The subcommittee stands in recess, subject to the call of the chair.
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