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Analysis | Ceasefire between Israel and Iran appears to hold
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6/25/2025
We interview Arnold August, Canadian journalist and political analyst to provide his insight into the ceasefire between Israel, Iran and the U.S. which seems to be coming to fruition at the moment. teleSUR
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And to keep analysing all the information that comes from the Middle East, we have a
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special guest from Canada at this moment, journalist and political analyst, Arnold August.
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Hi Arnold, welcome to From the South.
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Thank you very much, it's great to be in touch with you Alejandra.
00:17
Although Israel, the United States and Iran have agreed to a ceasefire, it is still very
00:22
soon to consider the conflict truly over, given the underlying tensions, is that your
00:27
opinion?
00:28
Yes, of course, Iran agreed, but we have to underline, in my view, that it was Israel,
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which was the country that offered to have a ceasefire, because they were losing very badly
00:46
against Iran.
00:47
Now, in terms of the current situation, to answer your question further, it's very difficult
00:53
to analyse how this truce or whatever ceasefire will go through, because Trump, as you know,
01:02
within one minute he could have three or four different views.
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just like today, he reiterated his position that the United States obliterated the nuclear
01:16
areas of Iran.
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And a few hours later, under questioning from reporters in The Hague, where he is there,
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to take part in the NATO summit there, he said, well, we do not completely destroy it.
01:33
You know, it may take some while, a while, and we have to do further investigation.
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At the same time, after saying that, we have to do further investigation.
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He also goes after the media, Washington
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Post, CNN, saying that they are not faithful to the United States.
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They do not respect the brave army or soldiers or air force that went all the way from the
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United States to Iran to bomb that country.
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So, it's very conflicting statements coming out of Trump's mouth, as usual.
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Now, even Israel has said earlier today, they did not say that they succeeded in obliterating
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those targets.
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They say that we have more investigation has to be done.
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When they talk about more investigation has to be done, in the back of my head,
02:19
I'm always concerned about the following.
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When they say more investigation has to be done, does that mean that the Israel is
02:26
planning to send troops on the ground or United States troops on the ground to check the facilities
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in Iran?
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I don't know.
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But today, the Israeli IDF said that they have forces in Iran monitoring the situation.
02:43
So, one has to be careful when they're evaluating whether they obliterated or not.
02:48
It leaves the door open for further, perhaps, I'm wrong, I hope I'm wrong, perhaps further
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incursions by Israel in Iran to try to, you know, set what they say, set the record straight,
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especially when we know, if I'll just conclude on that.
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As I mentioned to the other host, Louis, about five days ago, in that interview with Telly Sur,
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I said the issue for Israel and the United States was not, and was not at the time,
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the nuclear issue.
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It was regime change.
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And just yesterday, the Washington Post confirmed what I said.
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They said that this was being planned.
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The attack against Iran that took place a couple of days ago, this was being planned
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a long time ago, before the controversy of enrichment of uranium is taking place.
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So, the overall goal for the United States and Israel, irrespective of negotiation,
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is regime change in Iran.
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In my view, one cannot take our mind off that specific objective of the United States and Israel.
04:01
And to what extent was Israel's military campaign and this premeditated plan you mentioned
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against Iran dependent on U.S. support?
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And could social operation have even occurred without U.S. backing?
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Well, just to, you know, I'll just give you a quote from Joe Biden, supposed to be the moderate
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in U.S., right?
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He's not, but he said if Israel, this is when he was a senator, if Israel did not exist,
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we would have to invent it.
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That goes a long way to say, illustrate in a very open way that Israel is an instrument of the U.S.,
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in my view, to advance its geopolitical goals in the Middle East and West Asia.
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So, Israel is doing the work for the United States.
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I don't believe that Israel controls the United States.
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I think the United States controls Israel.
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Of course, they may have some contradictions with regards to Netanyahu on the one hand and
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Donald Trump on the other, but the overall geopolitical goal remains the same.
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And so, you know, the answer to your question is very simple.
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Israel would not exist without the support of the United States.
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And this was shown, you know, Israel, you know, attacked Iran, okay?
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And this, they successfully brought the United States into the war because Israel knew very well
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by attacking Iran, they will not be able to finish the job.
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Israel needed the United States to so-called finish the job, which they didn't, by the way,
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but this is what they had in mind.
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They needed the United States.
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So, this shows once again that Israel is the instrument of the United States.
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I mean, you know, in my view, I mean, I think we're going through a historic situation, Alejandra.
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The United States said, you know, they don't like,
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United States and Israel said they don't like Iran because Iran goes, Iranians go on the street
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and shout, death to America, death to Israel.
06:02
That was about a week ago.
06:04
Well, I got news for Mr. Trump and Mr. Netanyahu.
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The Iranians went out on the street against, once again, not only in Tehran, but other cities in Iran,
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just a couple of days ago after Israel was forced to concede and ask for a ceasefire.
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And they were shouting slogans amongst other, death to America, death to Israel.
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So, I think, in my view, the most important thing in this whole scenario that is for sure
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is that Israel lost that war regarding Iran.
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One has to keep in mind, Alejandro, that the success of the Iranian missiles against Israel resulted,
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guess how much it resulted in terms of damage just in the last week or two?
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$1.3 billion.
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That's a lot of money.
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And cities like Haifa, which are very important for the Israeli economic, political and cyber
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strategy, is almost completely obliterated.
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And Tel Aviv is also in rebels.
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So, no one can hide the fact that Israel was the one who attacked.
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Iran defended itself and did so very well.
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They actually defeated Israel on the battlefield.
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And Israel had to beg for mercy for a ceasefire.
07:31
And going back to an idea that you mentioned earlier,
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while the United States is attributing the end of the hostilities to its intervention and its
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targeted strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities, Iranian officials and even Israel are acknowledging
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that the impact was minimal.
07:49
Can such external military actions realistically
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halt Iran's nuclear program in the long term and also Iran's determination to self-defense?
07:59
Well, I think that, you know, I'm not a scientist, you know, a nuclear scientist at all.
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But I would like to say the following that, you know, Iran, Israel and the United States can bomb the
08:11
Iranian facilities, but they cannot bomb and obliterate the Iranian mine, which has a civilization of
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5,000 years scientific and other aspects of civilization.
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Irrespective of what happens materially, in my view, the Iranians will be able to recuperate themselves.
08:32
And if they need to, and I think they have to go on to enrich uranium to defend themselves.
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I don't think they have any other choice. Like why is the United States not attacking North Korea now?
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Because they have nuclear weapons.
08:46
And what happened with Libya, Muhammad Gaddafi?
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When he had nuclear weapons, they did not dare to attack him.
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But once they did away with the nuclear weapons,
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they invaded and assassinated him and took over the country.
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That is, I think, in my view, it's very hard to accept because the issue of nuclear weapons
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is a very, you know, controversial issue.
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But in my view, Iran has no other alternative but to develop in its own way, with its own scientific
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knowledge and know-how, nuclear weapons to defend themselves against the United States.
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And of course, one has to say, they talk about nuclear weapons.
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But which are the countries that have nuclear weapons in the Middle East?
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It's Israel. It's supported by which country?
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The United States, the only country in history that used atomic bombs in the world
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towards the end of World War II.
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So that is the heart of the problem.
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The United States and Israel, they are the ones that have nuclear weapons.
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And while, on the other hand, Iran is building very close ties with other countries,
09:52
I could not help but notice, I was very satisfied, I don't know if you noticed that,
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but the Pakistani parliament issued an important statement in defense of Iran.
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Now, Pakistan has nuclear weapons. So it's not that easy for the United States and Israel
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to maintain their monopoly over nuclear weapons. But we will see what happens in the future.
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No one hopes for nuclear war. But at the same time, everyone hopes, in my view,
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that Iran has the right to defend itself, its sovereignty, and I'm sure they will do so.
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Thank you very much for your time, Arnold, here with us from the South.
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It's always a pleasure. Thank you for having me.
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