00:00Celtics have made another move, and it appeared to be final last night around 6 o'clock or whenever it was.
00:08And so Kristaps Porzingis is gone.
00:10And fan favorite, never forget what the guy did for us when it came to Banner 18.
00:17And certainly that very impressive Game 1 of the NBA Finals from Kristaps Porzingis.
00:25But seems like, Curtis, financially, the Celtics have gotten themselves to where they want it to be when it comes to the tax portion of the apron, correct?
00:38They have cashed out, and well, WIC cashed out, and now the new owner is making the team more cash-friendly.
00:45So do we think that's it, or potentially another shoe to drop by tonight, which is the NBA draft?
00:52Well, I don't know.
00:54I mean, there are all kinds of whispers about Jalen Brown and who would be available if you decided to part with Jalen Brown.
01:05And whether that is Wiggy, whether that is Giannis, or I saw a ridiculous suggestion yesterday that you trade Jalen Brown for Bradley Beal.
01:20Oh, my God.
01:20I'm good with that.
01:21Which I would not do if I were Brad Stevens.
01:27They're going to be trying to trade in between now and the draft.
01:30You think so?
01:30Of course.
01:31Well, there are a lot of questions about what they're going to do with their draft picks because they're expected to move on with one or two, or their two, to involve those two picks for tonight with another trade.
01:43So.
01:43Okay.
01:44If that happens.
01:44But I think tonight's the deadline, obviously.
01:46Yeah, yeah.
01:47Jalen Brown, if he makes it through tonight.
01:50Well, not necessarily.
01:51It depends on if they're, like, putting a package together that involves draft picks.
01:56But that's what experts, people in the know, have said that they've been trying to do.
02:01So, if that doesn't happen tonight, then I will sleep much better this evening.
02:05What do you give Brad Stevens when it comes to a grade if he had to make these moves, which I think he did?
02:12What do you give him on dumping the salary and what he got back?
02:18Well, as far as what he gets back, he gets what?
02:21Niang?
02:22Yeah, George's Niang.
02:23All right.
02:24Local guy.
02:25Local guy.
02:26You know, he's a scrappy player.
02:27I like his game.
02:28Yeah, he's a scrappy player.
02:31And you get the kid back from Portland.
02:33So, I don't know.
02:34Is it next year?
02:35And there are a few things out there, and I know people don't want it, but there are a few things out there.
02:40It looks like you're unloading off.
02:42And so, if you bring Jalen Brown back, aren't you a middle-of-the-road team?
02:47Playoff team?
02:48Yes.
02:49And you never want to be there.
02:51You mean without Jason Tatum?
02:53Yeah, because you're not going to have Tatum next year.
02:55I mean, but you were going to – weren't you going to be a middle-of-the-road team anyway without Jason Tatum?
03:00But if you brought everybody back, I'm saying, like if you kept Porzingis, if you kept Drew Holiday, maybe, you know, maybe you're a third seed.
03:08I mean, you can't – you couldn't count at least last season on Porzingis.
03:13What about George's Zang?
03:16That's what Wiggy's saying, Craig.
03:18They're better with Porzingis than this guy.
03:21Well, Wiggy will also, in this case, not add the S to George.
03:26He will call him George throughout the season.
03:27George, you know.
03:28But –
03:29Me-yang.
03:29Yeah, I mean, I think you had to go if you were the Bill Chisholm and Wig Grosbeck and whoever else.
03:37Yeah, and Cliffs Kingsbury.
03:38And Cliffs Kingsbury.
03:40If you – you had to go in the season not expecting – go into the season not expecting much without Jason Tatum.
03:47Yeah, I'm going full tank mode.
03:48Yes, yeah.
03:49If I'm going full tank mode, I'm trying to get lottery pick, and then, you know, that's my mode.
03:56I'm going full tank mode trying to get lottery pick because I don't want to be a sixth seed or a fifth seed, and then you get bounced in the first round, and now it's just like you're in no man's land when Tatum comes back.
04:07And I think that Brad Stevens agrees with Wiggy.
04:10I mean, I think, according to all the reports, that Jalen Brown is being shopped around.
04:16Yeah.
04:17That doesn't mean it's going to happen.
04:18I would say, at best, you know, 20%, 30% chance today.
04:21But clearly, the organization at least is in part in agreement with Wiggy about that.
04:27Yeah, I would agree with that, too.
04:29I just don't know what you're going to get – what could you get for him, Curtis, that would make sense?
04:35You would get a lot worse this year so that you could get better faster.
04:38Okay.
04:39Yeah.
04:40But you're not going to give him up for a bag of donuts like you did Raffi Devers, and everybody got mad about that.
04:46Like, Brad Stevens isn't going to trade Jalen Brown for nothing and then tank.
04:49So what would we get back for Jalen Brown right now?
04:51Are you talking Canes or, like, just store-bought?
04:55Like, store-bought.
04:55If you're trading Jalen Brown, you're getting an all-star caliber player.
05:01So who is it right now?
05:02Well, I don't know if you're – if Giannis is out there, it's potentially that.
05:08But you'd have to give up more than just Jalen Brown to get Giannis, right?
05:12You'd have to give up maybe Jalen Brown and Derek White.
05:14And Derek White.
05:15And George Zang.
05:16Yeah, and George Zang.
05:18But if you're going with other – if you're going with draft picks, then you probably can get players from San Antonio
05:27in their number two overall pick for Jalen Brown, if that's where – unless I said Fantasyland.
05:33That's never happening.
05:34Nico Harris, you never know.
05:36You are not getting Cooper Flagg out of this wiggy.
05:39You never know.
05:40I never thought Luka would have been traded.
05:42Well, if we're going to continue the Kurt Spiracy, you gave the Mavs the number one pick.
05:47And then you got Chisholm to go over $7 billion or whatever the record-setting deal with the Celtics is.
05:54And then you get Nico Harris to trade Cooper Flagg to his hometown.
05:57So you promised Bill Chisholm that he would get – he would end up with Cooper Flagg out of all this.
06:02Correct.
06:02He just had to pay an extra billion for the Celtics.
06:04Right.
06:05It was like a potato note.
06:06You had to burn after reading.
06:07All right.
06:08Maybe.
06:09I don't know.
06:09I feel like when it comes to Brad Stevens getting them to take Porzingis and to assume – they have to assume that salary, correct?
06:20I can't figure out the way it works on the match thing.
06:23Yeah, I don't know.
06:25That's a good – that's strategic by – that's a sell job by Brad Stevens.
06:31Right.
06:31He gets an A on that from me.
06:34And I think the bigger question is because, Courtney, you keep saying no, no, no on Jalen Brown.
06:38And I agree with you to a certain extent.
06:41But if you're Jalen Brown, aren't you fed up?
06:45This is another year where your name is being shopped around being potentially traded again.
06:54People are not – you know, and I'm talking about the basketball experts, the Shams and all those guys.
06:59They're not coming out here and saying, oh, there are a bunch of teams inquiring about Jalen Brown
07:06if the Celtics are not picking up the phone and at least listening to –
07:10so if you're Jalen, you're going to be like, damn, what the hell is going on, man?
07:14It seems like since you drafted me, you've been trying to trade me.
07:16Last year, Brad Stevens spoke out about that, and Wick talked to us about that.
07:20The fact that Jalen Brown's name is always brought up during it,
07:22and it's actually a compliment to him because he's such a great player.
07:25Now, I get what you're saying.
07:26Do you believe that?
07:26No, but I get what –
07:27I'm talking from his point of view.
07:28No, because he made it clear, I believe, last year there were some sideways tweets
07:31about while this was all going on.
07:33Jalen Brown certainly feels a certain type of way about that.
07:36But all we've heard about Jalen Brown is that he wants to be the number one guy.
07:39Well, here's your season on a silver platter.
07:41Show that you can be a number one guy.
07:43But he's still not the number one.
07:45And this is the team saying they don't think he is.
07:47Right.
07:47He would be the number one this season with Jason Tatum on the bench.
07:50He'd be the temporary number one.
07:51Okay, but so what?
07:52Prove that you can do it.
07:54If you've got an ego like –
07:55The guy's been in the NBA.
07:58He's an all-NBA caliber player.
08:00Yeah, I know.
08:01He's my guy.
08:02But do you think he wants to go out there and be like,
08:04oh, prove that you can do this now that he –
08:07I think if I'm Jalen Brown, this is a perfect opportunity to prove to everybody
08:10that I can be the number one guy.
08:12Also, moving forward, I know I can play with Jason Tatum.
08:15So does Jason Tatum want to come back after an injury like this
08:19to a completely different team where he doesn't know how he's going to play with everybody?
08:22And does Jalen Brown want to move on and try to figure it out with another team as well?
08:26He also may be looking forward to having the opportunity to be on the court with Georges Wang.
