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00:00Chris Maddox on NBC Sports Boston.
00:04Spurs are the team to watch for Jalen Brown.
00:08They're a contender next year if they add Jalen to Wemby, Fox, Castle.
00:14They're a contender in the West.
00:16Celtics wouldn't do the deal without the number two pick.
00:20Dylan Harper is the name that he highlights.
00:22We've also highlighted Ace Bailey.
00:23Those are the two players at Rutgers that couldn't get Rutgers to the NCAA tournament last year.
00:28That's a red flag for me.
00:29It's a scarlet flag is what it is for the Rutgers players.
00:34But you wouldn't get Cooper flag.
00:35You would get the next pick.
00:39You wouldn't get Cooper flag.
00:40You would get a red flag in the draft.
00:42Well said.
00:44Jalen Brown for the number two pick?
00:45No.
00:46I'm not doing it because...
00:47What if they throw in a Devin Vassal and or a Keldon Johnson?
00:52Keep them both.
00:53Keep all those guys.
00:53I think it's a different story if the Tatum injury was a career ender or if Tatum was a free agent in a year or something like that.
01:04And there's uncertainty on if Tatum was ever even going to return.
01:06But in my head, Tatum's out for a year.
01:08Then he comes back.
01:09And he's going to be whatever he is.
01:10He's 27, 28 years old.
01:12And he'll be back.
01:13Fingers crossed that he's close to what he was.
01:15I don't want Tatum returning to a team without Jalen Brown, without Porzingis, without Holiday, probably without...
01:25I mean, definitely not Horford.
01:27And then you're like, hey, but we got you Dylan Harper, who's going to be like 19.
01:31That sounds terrible.
01:33And he might be good.
01:34Like, I do think it's a red flag that he and Bailey couldn't make the tournament.
01:37Two of them, especially.
01:38Mark L. Foltz couldn't make the tournament.
01:39Ben Simmons couldn't make the tournament.
01:41It's bad that one guy couldn't do it.
01:43Two McDonald's All-Americans go to a place like Rutgers.
01:47Not exactly a basketball powerhouse.
01:48No, but who cares?
01:49Two guys.
01:49Although, you know, Quincy Duby may have something to say about that.
01:52But, you know, it's not exactly...
01:54Two guys should be able to go to Northeastern or go to, you know, anywhere and make the tournament.
01:58The whole...
01:59Every college just about makes the tournament these days.
02:02Right, right.
02:02So, how did they not get in?
02:04It's embarrassing.
02:04So, I don't love that.
02:05But let's just say, even they end up being really good players.
02:09I want Tatum and Brown back together in another year.
02:12So, I'm not slamming the door on every Jalen Brown trade.
02:16We had the other...
02:17Like, last week, we were talking about Cooper Flagg for Jalen Brown.
02:19I'm doing that.
02:20I like Flagg a lot more than I like the Rutgers guys.
02:22So, I would do that.
02:23I also think he's going to be, you know, like an all-star quicker than those two guys.
02:26Meaning, like, Tatum could return to a guy who's already, like, had a full season.
02:31Kind of playing, you know, Derek White and a couple other guys.
02:34And by year two, maybe you have a real, like, budding all-star at that point.
02:38That's way more appetizing than this deal.
02:41I feel like you're really, really punting on next season.
02:44And then it's like a big question mark for the following season.
02:47So, I'm a no on that.
02:48So, hang on.
02:49Real quick.
02:50I get why the Spurs would do it.
02:51I think for the Spurs, that would make a ton of sense.
02:54So, just because we were talking about this list yesterday.
02:56And I also would not trade Jalen for the number two pick.
02:59Number one, Cooper Flagg, in.
03:01Looking at the rankings, we did this ringer list yesterday.
03:05And we kind of focused on it more as, well, the Celtics have six guys in the top hundred.
03:09But cross Tatum off.
03:10He's 10th for some reason on this list, even though he's not going to play.
03:12I'm not sure how they come up with a list, but whatever.
03:14I'm sure they'll update it closer to the start of next year as well.
03:17Although, it was updated on...
03:19Yesterday.
03:20Updated on June 4th.
03:21So, they still have five other guys, not named Jason Tatum, in the NBA's top hundred.
03:27Top 90.
03:29Jalen's at 21, all the way down to Peyton Pritchard at 89.
03:33So, I just Googled it real quick.
03:34Or, searched for it real quick.
03:36Stephon Castle is 40.
03:38And it's like, you can't get Stephon Castle for Jalen Brown.
03:40Which, I wouldn't even do that.
03:41I don't want Stephon Castle.
03:42I don't either.
03:43Rookie of the...
03:43I like him.
03:44But, rookie of the year in a horrible rookie class.
03:47Right.
03:47And, look, I was there for the Wemby game last year, Bragg.
03:52Wow.
03:52And Castle's really good in that game.
03:54I like Stephon Castle.
03:55But, I don't want him for Jalen Brown.
03:58I'd rather have Jalen Brown.
03:59I don't want the number two pick for Jalen Brown.
04:01But, what interests me about that commentary from Chris Mannix is that there's a team to watch for Jalen Brown.
04:09Like, why is there a team to watch?
04:14Why is there a Jalen Brown sweepstakes?
04:15Why are we gaming all of this out?
04:19And so, how serious are the Celtics about fielding offers for Jalen Brown?
04:23He had another comment here.
04:25And I'll pull it up for you.
04:26But, ask you something along the lines of, like, the whole NBA is just waiting to see how deep the cuts are going to go.
04:32Here you go.
04:32Teams are waiting to see just how deep the cuts with Boston are going to go.
04:38So, that's what Mannix said yesterday.
04:39So, teams are waiting.
04:40They're like, are we talking about Sam Hauser?
04:44Are we talking about Drew Holiday and Porzingis?
04:47Are we talking about Jalen?
04:48I mean, teams are lining up waiting for that.
04:49And Mannix told you, there's a team to watch.
04:51Which means, to me, on some level, the Celtics are considering moving Jalen Brown.
04:55So, Brad Stevens is, you know, had this job for a couple years.
05:00He's made a lot of trades.
05:01And he's won all of them.
05:03Right?
05:03Like, pretty much.
05:04I think he's won all of his trades.
05:05Like, you can go back and look at him and be like, oh, Aaron Eastman's like a good player.
05:08Yeah, that's one.
05:08But I think if you do, like, the butterfly effect, it's sort of like where that trade then led to and led to whatever.
05:14I think he's done a really good job with the roster.
05:17However, do you think Jalen Brown is somebody that he would trade with everything going on right now with Tatum?
05:24Even if, either way, I feel like this guy, he's had Brown, his, Brown's entire career.
05:30Either he's coached him or he's been in the front office.
05:32And there have been Kevin Durant.
05:34He wouldn't trade him for Kevin Durant.
05:36Now he's going to trade him for Steven Castle?
05:38That's a good point.
05:38So, I don't think so.
05:39Or Ace Bailey or Dylan Harper.
05:40I don't think so.
05:41Or, no, no, no.
05:42Ace, what's his name?
05:44Dylan Harper, Ace Bailey.
05:45Okay, yes.
05:46Yeah, that's right.
05:47So, he's going to, whatever.
05:48Some, some, right.
05:49This is a good point, though.
05:50He wouldn't trade him for Durant.
05:52He wouldn't trade him for Jimmy Butler, Paul George, whatever million names we've gone over over the years.
05:56Most of which I would have done.
05:58Guilty hands up.
05:58Yeah, yeah.
05:59Now you're trading him for the number two pick and it's not Cooper Flagg?
06:02I don't think so.
06:03And you could argue that, all right, well, the Tatum injury might change the equation a little bit.
06:09But if he's coming back and both guys will still be under 30 when he returns, I'm not running away from it and trying to grab the second pick in the draft.
06:16Me neither.
06:17Text line puts it well.
06:18Guys, if Jalen's so valuable, why are we always trying to get rid of him?
06:22Well, I've kind of stopped.
06:23Honestly, I've kind of stopped.
06:24I was early on in his career.
06:26The last two years, I've not been involved.
06:29I stopped with the Kevin Durant thing even a couple of years ago.
06:32I was like, I'm keeping Jalen Brown.
06:34I just think the Tatum injury and then just because we were playing GM and you're like, all right, if the Mavericks moved on from number one, would you do it?
06:43You're like, okay, well, now you're talking about one of the most valuable pieces just based on age, contract, and everything else in the NBA.
06:49Like, that's going to be one of the more valuable players, and he could end up being a bust or whatever.
06:54But Cooper Flagg going into next year, because that ringer top 100 is just like how they rank the players.
07:00Simmons always does every year his trade value.
07:02That's a different chart, right?
07:03Like, that's not a power ranking as much because you might have an older player ranked way lower.
07:07Cooper Flagg's going to be towards the top.
07:09Oh, he will be, and Jalen will be way lower on that list than on the player list because of the money he makes and, you know, age and everything else.
07:16So, no, I think part of the reason for years and years I was on board anyway with trading Jalen Brown is because I wasn't sure it was going to work with him and Tatum.
07:24And it did.
07:25So I backed off it as well.
07:27But Cooper Flagg, I think, is a different level of prospect.
07:29And I think the Tatum injury complicates some of that, too.
07:31It's like, what's it going to look like when Tatum comes back?
07:34So I'm not itching to trade him.
07:35I'm not doing it for the number two pick.
07:37You can throw in all your Devin Vassell and Kelton Johnsons that you want.
07:41I don't even want Stephon Castle, who apparently the Spurs wouldn't put on the table.
07:45But Mannix does think there is a team to watch in the Jalen Brown sweepstakes, which means on some level the Celtics are listening.
07:50So what do you make of that?
07:51You can jump in.
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