- 6/24/2025
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00:00Are you picking them or not?
00:01Look, I think it's a ballsy.
00:03It's a ballsy.
00:05Yeah, it doesn't seem like you're quite ready to get to that point yet.
00:08Right?
00:09It's because even when I said yesterday Vegas had them, you know,
00:15second best odds to win the championship,
00:17you're like, I don't know about all that yet.
00:19Well, I just don't know that what I watched in the NBA playoffs this year
00:23that the Rockets are a KD away from shoe-in.
00:27And that's just a bold prediction to me.
00:32I mean, especially on a year like this where you saw, like you mentioned,
00:35the LeBron James of the league, the Kevin Durant of the league,
00:40like down the stretch, you know,
00:42we're banking on Anthony Edwards being the guy and coming into his own.
00:47We're banking on them two teams we just watched in the playoffs,
00:50you know, carrying the load.
00:52Hey, LeBrunson.
00:53Yeah, I think it's easy right now to look at what we just watched and go,
00:58yeah, man, KD would have had these boys competing with that bunch we were watching.
01:02I don't know that that bunch we just watched wasn't just kind of an anomaly
01:06here this year when you saw some of the older heads,
01:10more established superstars, not in the mix.
01:13I just don't, I mean, I think the Rockets got a, I love where they're at.
01:19I love what they're doing.
01:20I love the identity.
01:21I love Imei Doka.
01:22I love everything about them.
01:24But they still got a bunch of young dudes around KD that have to take the next step.
01:29Yeah.
01:30Let me pose this to all of you.
01:32You can jump in on this 713-5724-610 text line as well.
01:36For this trade to be a success with Kevin Durant,
01:46do they need to win a championship with him?
01:48For this to be a success?
01:51No.
01:51You know, that's a...
01:53I know how you get it.
01:55But sometimes...
01:56They got to compete for one.
01:57For it to be a success...
01:59For it to be a success, they have to reach what?
02:01Well, I don't think it's, to me, it's not a certain round.
02:04I mean, if they play through the season, they load manage KD,
02:08they get to the end, and they just happen to run into whoever this year's,
02:14this year's, you know, best team is,
02:18and they lose in a seven-game series,
02:20but it's in the first round of the second round.
02:22I mean, I don't view, oh, it was the first round.
02:25They lost in the first round.
02:26Get them the hell out of here.
02:27No, I think, I think, I think throughout the season with KD,
02:31if you prove to be one of the best, like, legitimately one of the best,
02:35like, I don't, I think the Rockets have, they have arrived.
02:39Like, last year, I think it was fair to say,
02:42you really believe in what the Rockets are doing right now?
02:46Like, they're young, they've arrived, they got this identity,
02:48they won more games than everybody expected, they're the two seed.
02:51Are you really believing they're a two seed?
02:52I think most people would have said, no, I don't believe they're a two seed.
02:54I believe they're a good playoff team,
02:56but I don't think they're a two seed, right?
02:58Like, with KD in the boat, like, to me, it's got to be,
03:03hey, man, this is a legit title contending team.
03:06Now, if they run into a buzzsaw in the playoffs,
03:08I'm not going to discredit that.
03:09Me personally, that's how I see it.
03:11Text line coming through,
03:11you got to at least make the Western Conference Finals, at least.
03:15Someone else, you got to make this team,
03:17this team needs ship KD is here,
03:20or you've wasted the future of Jalen Green.
03:23Another text in, they've got to at least make the finals.
03:26What is this?
03:27Do the Rockets have to win a championship?
03:30What has to happen for this to be a success to you?
03:36I do think they've got to get to the finals.
03:38I don't have a destination in mind for me.
03:42In my mind, in my mind, yeah.
03:43In my mind, I hear you on that, the product.
03:46You've been consistent with that.
03:49I do.
03:49I think this group, to me, feels like,
03:53now, that is right now, right?
03:56Now, if something, there's another move made that we don't see coming.
04:00Sure.
04:01Right?
04:01Like, you know, if there's another,
04:03oh, I don't know,
04:05Luke is going to get traded to the Lakers in a weird thing.
04:08Like, you know, something else happens.
04:10You know, we'll see.
04:12But right now, the way this team is constructed and the growth it seems like this team is going to have
04:18and everything they have, like, I feel like over the next couple of years,
04:24that, to me, I would look at that.
04:26And, of course, you have to look at it certain ways.
04:28But I would look at that.
04:29That, to me, seems to be the success point of it.
04:33I'm not going to say they got to win the thing,
04:36but can they at least get through the Western Conference
04:41and get to the Western Conference finals?
04:43Now, the way that the East looks right now,
04:45it seems like if you win the West, you're probably going to win the whole.
04:47That's right.
04:48I mean, the championship is the Western Conference finals, right?
04:51Yeah, Ron, I don't know.
04:52People text you, you've got to do better than what James Harden did.
04:55Yeah, but, like, look at James.
04:58I mean, look, I'm not a fan, but, I mean, it's –
05:01I mean, I had a lot of fun, as much fun as I could have,
05:04watching iso ball with James Harden.
05:05And I don't – look, they got booted out of the playoffs a good amount of times
05:11because they ran into a damn bus.
05:12So they ran into a dinosaur.
05:13I mean, I think I hear what you're saying.
05:14If OKC, even though we don't really see it yet,
05:17if OKC begins to turn into the Warriors and you're like,
05:22you bang your head up against them
05:23and they somehow get you the way that the Warriors got those rocks.
05:27Yeah, I mean, look, look, like, look, if right now,
05:31with the moves that are being made in the NBA,
05:33I'm listening this morning, and word on the street is,
05:35LA's got to go make a move.
05:37So if Luka and LeBron go out and get a center
05:39and some perimeter shooting that takes them to the next level,
05:42and they are nails next year,
05:45if we run up against them in the first or second round
05:47and we lose to them, you're pissed?
05:49Like, you can't believe what –
05:50I will say, they got to get out of the first round.
05:53Well, no, look, again, to me, I don't – I mean, I just –
05:56it matters who they run up against.
05:58If they go – if they get – if they get ran up out of the playoffs
06:01in the first round by a team that they're favorite, you know,
06:03favors to win and they lose in five, I'm like, yeah,
06:05that's a disappointing season.
06:07But, like, the other – it was the Lakers and Denver.
06:09So if Denver goes out there and makes these moves
06:12to where they improve their team significantly
06:14and you got that bunch and you lose in the first
06:17or second round to that bunch, like, you're disappointed in KD.
06:21For me, I just can't – it's hard for me to say
06:24if they don't get to this point in the playoffs,
06:27then it's a bust.
06:30It's all for none.
06:31I can't get there with that.
06:32I know people don't like that, but that's just the reality of it for me.
06:35Text line coming through.
06:37They need to win some time while KD is still in Houston
06:42to be considered a successful trade.
06:46Western Conference Finals appearance is success.
06:4950 wins plus Western Conference Finals.
06:53My thing is, for me, it is – this isn't a – there are some moves –
07:02there are some teams that I think are in – that are in championship or bust mode.
07:07Yeah.
07:08There are – there are, like – you can talk about any kind of sports, right?
07:12I think OKC is probably now have arrived to championship or bust.
07:17Right?
07:17There is a strong disappointment if the way their team is set up
07:21if they don't win it all.
07:22Right?
07:22I think there are some teams, the Warriors of the past, the Cavs with LeBron,
07:28Miami with LeBron.
07:29I think those teams are championship or bust.
07:31Because a lot of things occurred.
07:33Like, one, man, hey, man, man, we kind of emptied the clip here.
07:38We kind of let it all – we kind of let it all out here.
07:41I don't think – I don't think the Rockets have emptied the clip.
07:48But, like, I don't think that the Rockets have just –
07:51Oh, I don't know.
07:52They haven't gone all in.
07:53Yeah, they haven't gone all in and just said, hey, this – all right, man,
07:58we're shoving it all to the table.
08:00Yeah.
08:00Right?
08:00I don't think they – I don't think they've done that.
08:03Because let's say the next couple of years they don't win with KD.
08:07I think they still have a men, Thompson,
08:11who you would have hoped has taken major steps over the next two years.
08:14So, Shingun, you would hope, has taken major steps in the next –
08:21from this point to 2029.
08:24So, I – like, I don't – like, that's a big thing to me
08:27where I don't see it is a failure or not a success
08:31if they don't win a championship.
08:32Because I don't think that they've pushed all their chips
08:34to the middle of the table yet.
08:36I don't think they've done that yet.
08:38I think that's fair.
08:38I think that's fair.
08:40I think they go out and make another move,
08:43and then all of a sudden it becomes a –
08:44like, if the Lakers go out and make a splash move right now,
08:47it's championship or bust.
08:48Yes.
08:49Yes.
08:49If Denver goes out and makes a splash move, it's championship or bust.
08:54I mean, there's a handful of teams.
08:56Yeah, the Lakers about run out.
08:57If Minnesota goes out there and gets Anthony Edwards the help
08:59that they're asking for and they find that right guy
09:01and make a big move, a big splash move, it's championship or bust.
09:05Right?
09:05Like, you know, Boston with the injury,
09:08no, they're in a little bit of an idle mode there.
09:10I think the Pacers with the unexpected run plus the injury,
09:15they're in a little bit more of an idle mode there.
09:16I don't know exactly where, you know, OKC is,
09:22even though they just won it.
09:23Like, there's – I just don't look at the Rockets as a championship or bust
09:27just because they went out and got Durant.
09:28I'm not going to be mad at all if they lose a series early in the playoffs.
09:34Now, I'll be pissed off if Durant goes out there and lays an egg.
09:37I mean, I'll be pissed off if they look like they are just totally outmanned
09:40by a team that shouldn't be outmanning them.
09:43Like, I would be mad at that.
09:44But if they go out there and put their best foot forward
09:46and KD goes out and has 35 a damn game
09:51and they get ousted in the first or second round,
09:53hey, man, that's a positive move for me.
09:55Yeah, Tyler is the psychopath.
09:58Man, when you look at this trade, for you, for this to be a success,
10:05the Rockets have to do what?
10:08I think they need to make it to the NBA Finals.
10:12I'm a bit different than y'all.
10:14While KD is here.
10:16Yes.
10:16Yeah.
10:17While KD is here.
10:18As a Rocket.
10:19Yeah, yeah.
10:19I mean, we laid it all out yesterday pretty well, I thought.
10:22I mean, this is one of the most prolific scorers, no matter his age,
10:25the game's ever seen.
10:27And you did a great job bringing him in for not much.
10:30I mean, that was a wondrous job and all the praises being thrown down on
10:33Rafael Stone right now.
10:35But Durant as a Rocket, yeah.
10:38With the squad you got right now, yeah.
10:41I need to see an NBA Finals berth.
10:43I think there are other teams in the West that are, they have shoved it to the table.
10:48Like, you talked about the Lakers are going to do whatever they can to do whatever all in.
10:54Hell, they've been an all in for years now with LeBron and his age.
10:58I think, I'm with you.
10:59I think the Denver doesn't want to waste.
11:02Jokic is prime.
11:03I think they're probably all in.
11:04And I think teams like the Rockets and the Spurs are not doing that.
11:09But the Rockets made a big move to help themselves get to that next level.
11:15And I don't know, boy.
11:16I think damn sure got to get out of the first round.
11:22They got to be real.
11:23Ron, you can argue that some of these squads in the West, I mean, there's L.A., Denver,
11:31Minnesota, Golden State.
11:34Those four teams have to be all in with who they're riding with.
11:38Clippers probably.
11:40Clippers right in the middle of it, too, yeah.
11:41I mean, those teams have to be all in.
11:43And, like, spend as much money as you can to try to win one.
11:46Maybe the Rockets are there, too.
11:48Maybe they make another move.
11:49But the thing is, they don't have to be all in.
11:52The Rockets don't, like those teams do, where they're just trading all their assets, right?
11:57Right, yeah.
11:57The Rockets don't have to be all in.
11:59And I think their roster is probably better than me.
12:01Like, their total roster.
12:03Their entirety of the roster.
12:06Like, the Lakers don't have a center.
12:09Like, they don't have, like, parts.
12:12Like, the Rockets roster is still all the way, you know, better and more equipped right now.
12:18And they add KD.
12:20Someone texted in and said, they've got to get their Hill Reed Shepard signed a $200.
12:25It has a $200 shoe now.
12:27Is that how much that shoe is?
12:29Good Shepard.
12:29They ain't buying that shoe for $200.
12:31That shoe is $200?
12:32No way.
12:34Drop the price, shave the mustache, and I'll consider it.
12:36I thought that was, I thought that was maybe a $125, $150 shoe.
12:43That's got a real, that's got a real.
12:44You got a price on it, Tyler?
12:46Yeah, it looks like a retail for the Good Shepard shoe is $210.
12:50Go to hell, Reed.
12:51That ain't got $210 on it.
12:52No, not a chance.
12:53I mean, I can't buy it.
12:55I got a pair of 11s in my closet that I paid $200 for.
12:57Clint, I can't buy it.
12:58I can't spend $200 because it's Reed.
13:01You ain't spending $200 on LeBron's, much less Reed.
13:04That's not true.
13:05I have.
13:08But, I mean, I'm certainly, I've got some Jordans, but I'm certainly not.
13:13Reed Shepard can't drag me out to spend $200.
13:16$210?
13:17It's a Nike Zoom technology.
13:19Reed Shepard, man.
13:21He's got a stroke.
13:23Tyler, order you a pair, man.
13:24Get you a pair.
13:25I mean, I could.
13:26Get you a pair, man.
13:27Get the pink ones.
13:27No, I don't get the pink ones.
13:29That'd be gimmicky.
13:30Get them white with them speckles on them.
13:32They got speckles on them.
13:33Yeah.
13:34They got a little character.
13:35That would be gimmicky.
13:37Get you them speckles, man.
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