- 6/19/2025
As the Middle East spirals toward all-out war, Alex Krainer joins Dialogue Works to break down Iran’s massive missile retaliation targeting Tel Aviv, sending shockwaves through Israel 🇮🇱 and triggering a full-scale regional crisis. With U.S. forces on high alert and warships repositioned in the Persian Gulf, the countdown to possible direct U.S. involvement has begun ⏱️🛑.
Krainer unpacks the strategic implications, global economic risks, and the dangerous miscalculations that could plunge the world into chaos. This is not just another escalation — this is the threshold of war 🌍💥.
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Krainer unpacks the strategic implications, global economic risks, and the dangerous miscalculations that could plunge the world into chaos. This is not just another escalation — this is the threshold of war 🌍💥.
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00:00:00Hi everybody, today is Thursday, June 19th, 2025, and our friend Alex Greiner is back
00:00:11with us.
00:00:11Welcome back, Alex.
00:00:13Thank you for having me, Nima.
00:00:14Good to be with you again today.
00:00:17Netanyahu got, finally he achieved what he wanted for such a long time, attacking Iran.
00:00:25And the attack was somehow surprising for Iranian commanders, leadership, because they
00:00:33were negotiating with the United States.
00:00:36They were supposed to negotiate on Sunday, but before Sunday, the Israeli forces attacked
00:00:44Iran, and together with other intelligence from other countries, CIA, MISX, I don't know.
00:00:51How did you find the way they attacked?
00:00:53It's somehow a combination of what has happened in Russia and with the leadership in Lebanon
00:01:01with Hezbollah, decapitation and the drone attack, as we saw in both attacks.
00:01:09Well, the Israeli attack came on Friday the 13th, last week, right?
00:01:14And it was, I think that the nature of the attack was a surprise for the Iranians, and
00:01:22the timing of the attack was a surprise.
00:01:25So it was partially successful.
00:01:29I think that the Israelis, A, they have a good intelligence network themselves, and I think
00:01:35that they also have extensive support from other Western intelligence agencies, as well as other
00:01:46agencies like IAEA.
00:01:49So they were able to target Iranian leadership, and they were partly successful in that.
00:01:55But the decapitation, Hezbollah style, didn't quite work out that way.
00:02:03And so, you know, Israel's gambit is to open the fifth or the sixth front in their war against
00:02:09everybody.
00:02:09And the craziness of that gambit is that it's practically a suicidal mission, unless they can bring the United
00:02:25States and everybody else on board to try to finish off Iran for them.
00:02:31I don't know that they can be successful in this, because, you know, the United States, for all their
00:02:37supposed military power, you know, they spent 20 years in Afghanistan, trying to keep the Taliban from power.
00:02:47And after 20 years, they failed, and they had to withdraw in a humiliating way.
00:02:56Then they ran this Operation Prosperity Guardian in the Red Sea, trying to defeat the Ansar Allah,
00:03:07and Yemen.
00:03:08They failed.
00:03:09Then they launched Operation Rough Rider on the 15th March this year, which Trump announced as,
00:03:16now they're going to bomb them like nobody's ever seen before.
00:03:20Well, that didn't work out either.
00:03:21And, you know, Iran is no Ansar Allah, and Iran is no Taliban.
00:03:28Iran is a regional power that has not only prepared for this clash against the empire for more than 20 years,
00:03:37but they also have support from Pakistan, from Russia, from China, and from other players in the region.
00:03:48United States can bring their carrier strike groups and their destroyers,
00:03:53but everybody knows now that they have limited assets on those, limited ammunition,
00:03:58limited number of missiles on those ships.
00:04:00Once they fire them off, then what?
00:04:04They have to leave the region and refuel and resupply themselves somewhere else in port.
00:04:14Well, once they run out of missiles and out of air defense missiles, they're sitting ducks.
00:04:21They're absolutely lame sitting ducks in the middle of the sea.
00:04:24And if they stay there, the Iranians will 100% sink them.
00:04:30There's no doubt about that.
00:04:32I would be surprised, you know, maybe Trump doesn't appreciate that,
00:04:36but I would be surprised if there's anybody in the Pentagon that doesn't appreciate that.
00:04:41So the whole gambit that Trump is now apparently pursuing is so staggeringly idiotic
00:04:48that I always have to, you know, think back and say that they can't possibly be this stupid.
00:04:57There's got to be something else to it, you know.
00:05:00I don't know.
00:05:01We'll find out.
00:05:03I have the impression that Trump very badly needs to pass his, you know,
00:05:11big, beautiful bill through U.S. Senate.
00:05:14That is coming, I think, on the 4th of July.
00:05:21And I think that the odds of him passing that bill through the Senate are much increased
00:05:27if he is running the pro-Zionist side.
00:05:32And I think we won't really know his true intentions until that time,
00:05:38or unless we see the United States actually going for an attack.
00:05:42But if that happens, you know, if he orders an attack on Iran,
00:05:46there's going to be a mutiny in the United States.
00:05:50You know, there's going to be resignations from his administration.
00:05:57Servicemen in U.S. military might, you know, might decline to follow their orders.
00:06:03This is a dumb idea at every possible level.
00:06:08So I can't even understand that Trump is doing what he's doing.
00:06:12He's alienating everybody that supported him.
00:06:15And he's now carrying water for exactly those people who have been attacking him for eight years,
00:06:21nonstop, dragging him through impeachments, through all these court cases,
00:06:29two assassinations attempt.
00:06:31And now he's their errand boy.
00:06:33It doesn't make any sense at all.
00:06:35So my, you know, my take on the situation with Trump is that either they somehow got to him
00:06:42or he's running some kind of a double deception.
00:06:47Or I guess it's possible, given that he's 79 years old, that, you know, he's not quite there,
00:06:55that he's being influenced by people around him,
00:06:59and he's kind of just being carried in the direction in which he didn't want to go.
00:07:04But now, you know, now he has to own it because he has to, at the very minimum,
00:07:08he has to keep the appearance that he has control over his government.
00:07:12So now he has to own the consequences.
00:07:14And the way that they would get to him, I don't know that, you know,
00:07:17the money would do the trick, that they would tell him, okay, if you, you know,
00:07:20if you go along with us, we're going to make sure you get adequately rewarded
00:07:26with money and businesses and whatnot.
00:07:30It could be more something like, if you don't do this, we're going to kill all your children,
00:07:37all your, everybody in your family.
00:07:40And if, you know, if that side of the, if that force, you know,
00:07:44the globalists are good at one thing, it's, it's, they're good at killing people.
00:07:49And I think that the fact that he's the president of the United States doesn't matter a little bit.
00:07:53They've already killed John F. Kennedy and his brother, Robert F. Kennedy.
00:07:57Killing people is never a big, important obstacle for them.
00:08:02So I think, I think we're going to find out attacking Iran will be suicidal.
00:08:11It's going to have consequences, not only on your United States internal politics and on,
00:08:17on, you know, further deterioration of their military, very, very significant deterioration
00:08:23of their military.
00:08:23It will also have consequences on the region because, you know, I don't know if General Sisi
00:08:30in Egypt can hold back Egyptians and Egyptian troops from joining, you know, it could be,
00:08:37it could mean an overthrow of General Sisi.
00:08:43There could be a, there could be a, a social uprising and a revolution in Jordan.
00:08:49Uh, civil war in, in Syria is already quite likely to happen in the, in the near future.
00:08:57And then, you know, this whole Turkish, uh, Israeli gambit, uh, might, might end up overturned back.
00:09:07Uh, so, and then who knows what happens in Turkey?
00:09:10You know, the Turkish people are very, very, uh, strongly against Israel.
00:09:14You know, and Erdogan's phony fulminating against Israel while he is supplying them oil, while he's
00:09:26helped the Israeli by overthrowing Bashar al-Assad, which was, which was a, a, a massive, uh, score for the Israeli.
00:09:35And by helping Western powers take down Iranian missiles, uh, launched at, at, um, at Israel.
00:09:45Uh, his whole, his whole shtick is wearing thin and the Turkish people could at some point rise up
00:09:52and overthrow his regime as well.
00:09:56So, you know, there's a very, very massive downside risks for the United States getting involved against Iran.
00:10:05And I don't quite see what they, what they stand to gain that they couldn't gain by peaceful means.
00:10:10The whole story about Israeli, sorry, the whole story about the Iranian nuclear, um,
00:10:17program is exactly as fake and as phony as the story about Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction.
00:10:26From the very get-go, the, the name of the game was regime change.
00:10:34That's what they're after.
00:10:35They don't care about peace and stability in the region.
00:10:39Nobody's worried about Iranians having nuclear weapons, you know, really.
00:10:44Iran hasn't attacked anybody since, I think, 73, 1730, 1740.
00:10:50So for nearly 300 years, Iran never attacked any of their neighbors.
00:10:55On the other hand, you have Israel that has been attacking their neighbors practically nonstop since, since, since they've, they've existed as a country.
00:11:04And we see that their leadership are a bunch of genocidal maniacs with absolutely no moral compass and no humanity whatsoever.
00:11:13But we're all worried about the Iranians as a threat to peace in the world.
00:11:17And then nobody's even daring to mention that Israel has up to 300 nuclear warheads.
00:11:27And that they have overtly and explicitly threatened the world with the Samson option if Israel's existence should be jeopardized.
00:11:39So the whole story is fake.
00:11:41The only reason why they're doing this is because they want a regime change in Iran.
00:11:46And why do they want the regime change in Iran?
00:11:49Because Iran is an obstacle to their total hegemony over the region.
00:11:53And once they have total hegemony over the region, then they have the, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the lead arbitration role over who gets the region's natural resources.
00:12:04And then you have the, the, the, the path wide open to Western colonialism to re reassert itself in the Middle East.
00:12:16We had today, Vladimir Putin and Xi talked to each other and they were talking about the case of Iran.
00:12:26It seems that the concerns on the part of Russia and China rise and just increasing.
00:12:34I mean, Alex, to, when it comes to the war with Iran, it's not China and Russia.
00:12:41We see a very important resistance within MAGA.
00:12:47People are against Donald Trump with this sort of movement, with this sort of policies.
00:12:52This is, here is what Matt Gaetz tweeted on Axe.
00:12:59And he says, he, he, you remember him, he was, he nearly become, became U.S. Attorney General under the Trump administration.
00:13:08You know, he supported Donald Trump and he, here he says that the only country that doesn't care about IAEA is Israel.
00:13:20And do you think that these people have some sort of leverage or some sort of influence on the decision makers in the United States with the Trump, considering the Trump administration?
00:13:35Well, I think that indirectly they do have considerable influence because you can't not notice when people who are otherwise supportive of you start turning away from you, start giving public statements to that effect and expressing their dissatisfaction openly and overtly.
00:13:57Which is, you know, all the more surprising why, why, why Trump is behaving the way he is behaving.
00:14:04It's completely at odds with pretty much everything he's been saying ever since he entered politics in the United States.
00:14:13So, you know, it's hard to explain this turn of events, but there's got to be some kind of an explanation.
00:14:19And I think that, you know, Tulsi Gabbard also said that if United States joins the war against Iran, that she will resign.
00:14:27And so, and, you know, I am certain that there's a lot of dissent in the military circles, in the Pentagon, not to mention the, you know, the sailors aboard these carrier strike groups who might all find themselves at the bottom of the sea.
00:14:45And I think that there's a lot of dissent in the military if the United States attacks Iran, so they, they must be thinking, are we being used as, as pawns in this game?
00:14:55It's, it's, it's so staggeringly idiotic.
00:15:00It makes no sense whatsoever.
00:15:02So, um, I think that something else must be going on.
00:15:08Um, and I have received information that two flights from Iran landed in Oman and another, another foreign private jet.
00:15:22And so not Iranian.
00:15:23So there is, um, there is a suspicion, so unconfirmed news that the, the negotiations, the discussions between the Iranians and the Americans are, uh, are actually ongoing.
00:15:40So I hope that we're going to have good news, especially after 4th of July this year.
00:15:47But until then, all bets are off.
00:15:50Anything might happen any day.
00:15:53And, you know, with Israel there in the region, there is no, there's no limit to what they're capable of doing.
00:16:02They're capable of launching a nuclear strike against Iran.
00:16:05They don't care.
00:16:07The, you know, I, somebody, Craig Murray, a former British ambassador to, uh, I think Uzbekistan, Craig Murray.
00:16:16Uh, posted the news on Twitter that, you know, these, in Gaza, when, when they, when they distribute, uh, humanitarian aid, when they distribute food to the people of Gaza who are getting starved, they, uh, you know, they, they've been shooting at the people then.
00:16:39Well, yesterday I read that they've been shooting with tanks.
00:16:42And I, I, I, I mean, that, that doesn't even compute in, in my brain.
00:16:50And then just this morning I saw footage of the aftermath.
00:16:54I think it's the worst thing I've ever seen.
00:16:57And I mean, we've seen so much atrocities over the last two years.
00:17:04It's hard to make it worse, but I, I cannot even believe that people do this, that there are people in existence who will actually pull the trigger, who actually think like, hey, you know, all these people are going to gather together.
00:17:19And then we can shoot with tanks into the crowds and we're going to kill a whole lot of them.
00:17:24I don't know.
00:17:25I must have seen, uh, a few dozen mutilated humans strewn all over the place.
00:17:36And so Israel has its supporters in the West, Western government governments are all bending over backwards to show their support for Israel.
00:17:52Israel has the right to defend itself.
00:17:54Israel has the right to do whatever the hell they want.
00:17:57Nobody else has the right to defend themselves themselves.
00:18:00Palestinians don't have the right to defend themselves.
00:18:02And so, you know, Israel is enjoying full, complete, 100% impunity for whatever they decide to do.
00:18:10And, uh, I think that if they launched a nuclear missile on, on, on Iran, that people like, you know, Keir Starmer and Ursula von der Leyen and, uh, Lindsey Graham and, and all these kinds of people would say, well, uh, you know, we call on everybody for maximum restraint.
00:18:29Uh, uh, uh, uh, but Israel has the right to defend themselves and everything Israel does is right and, and, and, and, and, and sacrosanct.
00:18:37And, uh, you know, Iranians, it's, it's their own fault for, uh, getting a nuclear projectile striking at them.
00:18:47So, uh, you know, anything is possible and I, I, I, I, I, I hope, I hope that we pass through this crisis without seeing exchange of nuclear, nuclear weapons.
00:18:59Alex, from the CNN reporter, CNN reported that Iran is using a new generation of missiles on Israel.
00:19:13And from the footage that we've received from Iran, here is, look at the, the way that it's going toward Israel.
00:19:21It's fired from Iran and here is the other one.
00:19:29It's something different.
00:19:31We haven't seen this before from Iranian attack.
00:19:34And the BBC reporter says that when they say that they fired the missile, it comes, it lands in Israel in four to five minutes.
00:19:45Oh.
00:19:46And Washington Post reported that Israel is not capable of this war of attrition.
00:19:54If they continue this war, they're going to run out of ammunition, run out of the missiles they need for their air defense system.
00:20:04And I think Donald Trump is putting himself in a position that nobody, no president before did it.
00:20:13And because he gave the, the green light to Netanyahu to do this.
00:20:19I don't know if he wanted to achieve some sort of leverage because Netanyahu is just destroying everything.
00:20:26Look at what, what's happening.
00:20:27I mean, you look at the building in Tel Aviv, in Haifa.
00:20:32It's the scenes somehow look like what has happened in Gaza.
00:20:35It's destroying the core building.
00:20:38How, how do you see Israeli capability as the war, as, as this war goes on?
00:20:44Israel already at the beginning of the, of, of the war in Gaza, you know, the genocide, not really the war.
00:20:58Already then representatives of the IDF were saying, we must make sure that this doesn't become a long war.
00:21:06You know, Israeli defense forces are structured for very quick, short lasting wars.
00:21:13You know, they can be effective in this, but if this drags on, it's going to exhaust us.
00:21:18It's going to deplete us.
00:21:19And so they've been, they've been at war, you know, in Syria, in, in Lebanon, in, in, in Gaza against the Houthis in, in, in Yemen for more than two years.
00:21:31No, for nearly two years now.
00:21:34So it's been more than 600 days.
00:21:37And so they've been, they've been bleeding ammunition.
00:21:39They've been bleeding air defense ammunition.
00:21:42They've been bleeding troops.
00:21:43There is no, and not only, but, you know, their economy has been decimated as well.
00:21:51And then, you know, the Iranian strikes against Israel have been very strategic.
00:21:59They have destroyed their, you know, the headquarters of the Mossad, Ben Gurion airport, the port in Haifa, oil refineries.
00:22:11So they've, Israel has sustained very, very extensive damage.
00:22:17And so after two years of warfare, there is, there's no way that Israel, Israel is in a position to take on Iran in any way, shape or form.
00:22:30And, you know, even attacking Hezbollah was extremely risky for them.
00:22:37And, you know, the IDF themselves, you know, IDF veteran generals and a group of, you know, defense experts in Israel produced an extensive hundred page report that they submitted to the Netanyahu government saying that going to war against Hezbollah would be suicidal.
00:22:57Okay, well, okay, well, situation has changed.
00:23:02You know, they were able to assassinate the leadership of Hezbollah.
00:23:05They've been able to overthrow the regime in Damascus thanks to Erdogan and the Turkish deep state.
00:23:16And so now, at least from that point of view, they are in a, let's say, slightly less vulnerable position.
00:23:23But I think it's not, you know, this problem didn't go away.
00:23:28They just, you know, they just took care of it for the time being.
00:23:32But, you know, everywhere there, there's still bleeding losses in Gaza, in Syria.
00:23:38Yemen is still lobbing a missile here and a missile there.
00:23:45And we might, we don't know what might happen if a civil war breaks out in Syria.
00:23:50But everything, all of those factors are risk factors for Israel.
00:23:57And, you know, yesterday I found on X a video between Ben Gvir and one of the heads of the Mossad in a scream fest.
00:24:12And, well, I don't understand Hebrew, but the translation was that Ben Gvir was screaming at the Mossad guy,
00:24:19why, why did you provoke Iran?
00:24:22And then the Mossad guy screams back at him saying,
00:24:26we didn't realize how powerful Iranians were with their missiles.
00:24:33And apparently also the Iranians have been able to hack into the Iron Dome or Arrow 3 missile defense,
00:24:43air defense system, and make their rockets turn around and attack Israeli targets.
00:24:55And, you know, first time I saw a video of this, I thought, okay, well, it's a glitch.
00:25:01But then I saw another two, I think, at least another one.
00:25:07Well, you know, if this keeps happening again and again, then maybe the Iranians are telling the truth.
00:25:12Maybe they did hack into their defense systems.
00:25:17And now even what they have, you know, even what the Israelis have to defend themselves with
00:25:23is not as effective as they expected that it should be.
00:25:28And so this morning I saw news that the Israeli IDF officials were saying that they have to ration their air defense missiles.
00:25:39And the Iranians still have thousands upon thousands of drones and cruise missiles and ballistic missiles.
00:25:48And all of this keep going.
00:25:49Alex, and they're firing 25, which with each wave that they're implementing, 25, 30 missiles.
00:25:57It's somehow.
00:26:00Yes, exactly.
00:26:01And it's nonstop.
00:26:03And, you know, all these stories that, oh, you know, the Iranians, oh, look, you know, the second day they fired 2,000 and now they only fired 20.
00:26:11You know, next thing they're going to say that the Iranians have to go take people's washing machines and refrigerators
00:26:17to take up chips for the missiles, you know, and that they're running out and all this.
00:26:23But we've seen all those psyops before, you know, in the war with Russia.
00:26:28But I think this is very likely the end of Israel, you know, where I don't see how they bounce back from this.
00:26:39And then I think that if the United States join in this war, it's only going to accelerate it.
00:26:45And it's going to be the end of Western hegemony in the region because they're going to get thrown out altogether.
00:26:51I don't think that they can reverse course.
00:26:54You mentioned something about the Israeli reaction if they feel that they're going to lose it and they're going to use nuclear weapons.
00:27:07We've learned from Pakistanis that they're going to, if Israel uses nuclear weapons, they're going to give nuclear weapons to Iran.
00:27:14And it's something somehow we had experts on this podcast.
00:27:20They say, no, they're not going to do this.
00:27:22They had some belief that Pakistan would do this.
00:27:29And if you're sitting in Pakistan and looking at what's going on, here is what Netanyahu said about both Iran and Pakistan.
00:27:37The mission that we have is to prevent a militant Islamic regime from meeting up with nuclear weapons or from nuclear weapons meeting up with a militant Islamic regime.
00:27:50The first is called Iran.
00:27:52The second is called Pakistan.
00:27:54Pakistan, because if these radical regimes have nuclear weapons, they will not obey the rules that have been obeyed in the last almost seven decades.
00:28:08Pakistan, look at this video and the way that Netanyahu is talking about Pakistan.
00:28:13They're going to be the next target.
00:28:14They're going to be if something happens to Iran.
00:28:17These people, somehow, when you look at the situation, they don't know if everything goes in the direction that you've mentioned, a nuclear bomb.
00:28:27Everything gets extreme and extreme decisions would come to the mind of the leaders in that region.
00:28:35They're going to go to the extent to destroy Netanyahu and his sort of regime in Israel.
00:28:43Don't you think that somehow when we talk about Pakistan and the way that he said before, said to Turkey that they're going to provide Turkey with nuclear bombs?
00:28:56I think they're serious in the way that they're picturing because they see Israel as an enemy.
00:29:01I think so.
00:29:08I only wonder, you know, because you couldn't drop a nuke on Israel and not kill hundreds of thousands of Palestinians as well.
00:29:20You know, it doesn't make a lot of sense.
00:29:23You're going to be ending up killing a lot of innocent people.
00:29:26I think that the reason why, one of the reasons why the Iranians don't even care about having nuclear weapons is because they're obsolete.
00:29:38Nuclear weapons can wreak great destruction, but indiscriminately.
00:29:43So you're going to inflict a massive, massive collateral damage on whatever target you choose.
00:29:49At the same time, the Iranians have developed precision-guided hypersonic missiles, which can inflict the same damage as a nuclear weapon, but on a precisely chosen target.
00:30:07So you can take out, let's say, the headquarters of the Mossad without killing a lot of civilians in the city, which is what the Iranians have done now.
00:30:22You can destroy an oil refinery.
00:30:24You can destroy a port.
00:30:25You can destroy an airport.
00:30:27You don't need to kill millions of innocent people.
00:30:30And so I think that this whole saber-rattling with nuclear weapons is more serving as, I think, as a negotiating leverage.
00:30:46And I think that the Iranians themselves are, you know, they very intelligently made the proposal to say, like, okay, we will limit our nuclear enrichment, uranium enrichment program to, you know, 3.62%, whatever it is, percent for only civilian uses.
00:31:11But we demand that Israel's nuclear warheads also be dismantled and destroyed.
00:31:24So that's a perfectly reasonable position.
00:31:26And I think that everybody in the world would welcome it because that would actually improve the stability and peace in the region.
00:31:37But nobody is going for that.
00:31:39You know, the UN is in favor.
00:31:42The Iranians are in favor.
00:31:43All the countries in the region are in favor except for Israel.
00:31:48And so the whole global south, the Chinese, the Russians, Pakistanis, everybody is in favor of this solution.
00:31:57The United States, Great Britain, and Israel are not.
00:32:02So that tells you everything you want to know.
00:32:04They don't care about peace.
00:32:06They don't care about stability.
00:32:08They want hegemony in the region.
00:32:11And to have that hegemony in the region, they need a regime change and they need a completely defanged, toothless Iran so that they can do with it whatever they please.
00:32:26And you know what that is.
00:32:27That's colonial plunder and taking 92 million Iranians and turning them into slave labor.
00:32:34That's their ultimate objective.
00:32:37Alex, the people who were captured, who were collaborating with Israel in Iran, many of them, you mentioned the initial hours of the Israeli attack on Iran were somehow successful because there were a lot of people in Iran, these collaborators, these people who were, they said that they were preparing for this for such a long time, 10 years, a decade, preparing for this attack on Iran.
00:33:06And when you look at the attack on Iran and you compare it to what has happened in Russia, it seems that the mastermind of this attack has prepared this attack for such a long time.
00:33:21Then they tested it on Russia before going to Iran and doing this to Iran.
00:33:27Do you think that the leadership in Iran and Russia are getting to the same conclusion as we thought?
00:33:35I would be surprised if they weren't.
00:33:39And I think that, you know, obviously it's not just the Israeli.
00:33:42I think it's Western intelligence agencies collectively.
00:33:50And we've even learned a little bit about the way they work because it's not like people go around with a, you know, Mossad or MI6 business card and say like, hey, you know, here's my card and I'll give you money if you give me information or work for me or so on.
00:34:05And what they do instead is they come to the country, they bring in this NGOs and various charitable organizations.
00:34:17And then they do, you know, charitable work and they certain cultural events, they sponsor cultural events, they sponsor the media.
00:34:28And they use this front to develop a very, very widespread intelligence network.
00:34:41And they, you know, they take time to learn exactly where the right pressure nodes are in the society that they can influence, where they can obtain information, where they can bribe someone.
00:34:54And they sense who in the society has a friendly disposition to them, who is unhappy with the regime.
00:35:05And then, you know, very often these people don't necessarily even know that they are working for ultimately, you know, MI6 and the British Foreign Office.
00:35:18They think that they think that they're working with these helpful Westerners who want to, you know, bring progress, women's rights or whatever.
00:35:28And so they cooperate and provide information that the intelligence services then can reconstruct into actionable, effectively actionable information for them.
00:35:40And this is, you know, this is something that the British have perfected now for centuries, this type of intelligent work.
00:35:49And they're very effective in it.
00:35:52You know, just to put a concrete example on this, you know, we had, for example, we had an exchange of communications between the British representatives in Syria
00:36:06or in charge of Syria, or in charge of Syria, with the Obama administration.
00:36:12And so the man who was communicating from the British side was a man named Jonathan Powell.
00:36:20And Jonathan Powell was the chief of staff to Tony Blair while he was prime minister.
00:36:28And then Jonathan Powell went off and did his private thing.
00:36:31He set up this private NGO called Intermedia, right, no, Intermediate.
00:36:38And so he started to develop an extensive network with these insurgents with the view of overthrowing the government of Bashar al-Assad.
00:36:51So he communicated with the Obama administration to inform them that
00:36:58they have developed this network, that they're working with the insurgency.
00:37:06And the man he was communicating with was Jake Sullivan.
00:37:13And Jake Sullivan was then informing Hillary Clinton, that's the famous email,
00:37:19hey, in Syria, Al-Qaeda is on our side.
00:37:22And that's where he got the information from.
00:37:25Jonathan Powell, who was Tony Blair's chief of staff,
00:37:30communicating with Jake Sullivan to inform Hillary Clinton that, hey, you know, we got this covered.
00:37:37And then in that same exchange of communications,
00:37:42Jonathan Powell also informed Jake Sullivan that they have also begun work in not only in Syria,
00:37:51but also in Myanmar, in Somalia and in Yemen.
00:37:56So what do those four countries have in common?
00:37:59All four have been at the receiving end of terrorist attacks,
00:38:05of extremist movements, sabotage, assassinations, civil wars and mass death.
00:38:13And just in Syria, between 2012 and now, there's been a million victims.
00:38:20And now these very same networks for just to give you where this could go,
00:38:25are very active in the government of Bosnia and Herzegovina in the Balkans.
00:38:31And the RUSI think tank, Royal United Services Institute,
00:38:36have pretty much designated Bosnia and Herzegovina, the Balkans,
00:38:40as the next front in the West's war against Russia.
00:38:47And so, you know, now in Bosnia, Bosnia is crawling with British assets,
00:38:52with their NGOs, with their charitable organizations, special forces, UN soldiers, what have you.
00:38:59And they're all doing all this work.
00:39:02So, you know, if tomorrow you get some kind of attack where the key people were suddenly taken out
00:39:09with like a rocket straight through their bedroom windows,
00:39:13that's how that information comes to the people who pull the triggers.
00:39:19And, you know, Israel as the imperial project of the British Empire since the beginning is the beneficiary of that.
00:39:32You know, we're only hearing about the incredible genius of the Mossad and how amazingly capable they are.
00:39:39Well, they're capable because they have support of the whole Western intelligence network.
00:39:45You know, the MI6 and the CIA and all of them,
00:39:48they all give their best information and best intelligence to the Israelis.
00:39:54And then they can just, you know, pick off who they need to pick off.
00:39:59But at the same time, other nations start to figure things out.
00:40:06And as you said, I'm certain that the Iranians and the Russians and the Chinese
00:40:12are paying very, very close attention to what is happening and how it's happening.
00:40:17And they will be affecting countermeasures and they will be rooting out these networks.
00:40:23And then, you know, the empire is going to find itself blinded again.
00:40:28Alex, here moments ago, Maria Zakharova was talking about the situation with Iran and Israel.
00:40:35Here is what she said.
00:40:36Russia is warning the United States against getting involved in military actions against Russia, against Iran,
00:40:42saying it could lead to uncontrollable consequences.
00:40:50And what does that mean for Russia and China?
00:40:54Because we know that Iran so far, yesterday, Vladimir Putin said Iran so far didn't ask for any sort of help.
00:41:02They're just fighting against Israelis.
00:41:05And it doesn't seem that Iran does need Russia or anybody to get involved because they're just fighting.
00:41:11Israel, the air defense system of Israel is just, I don't see them being capable of continuing the conflict this way that is happening.
00:41:20Washington Post reported that for 10 or 12 days, they can have the ammunition to fight Iran.
00:41:26But putting all that aside, what are the main issues with the conflict in the Middle East for Russia and China?
00:41:38You know, I see that if something happens, something big happens, that they're warning the United States.
00:41:43They know if the United States gets involved, they can damage Iran.
00:41:48But Iran can do a lot to the region, those people who are supporting the United States.
00:41:56How these uncontrollable consequences, what are those in your opinion?
00:42:01Well, it could bring to an all-out war between the side that supports Iran, you know, the axis of resistance against the Western interests and their proxies.
00:42:16It could, well, it would very likely lead to the end of Israel, first of all.
00:42:21It would also be the end of places like Qatar and Bahrain and possibly the United Arab Emirates.
00:42:30It would probably topple the regime of al-Sisi in Egypt, or he would have to join the war on the side of the axis of resistance,
00:42:41which, given the Chinese help, would be likely.
00:42:49And it could mean the regime change in Jordan and Turkey, ultimately.
00:42:57So that's just to start with.
00:43:00Very probably, it would bring an end to Western hegemony in the region,
00:43:05because the West really doesn't have much to go on anymore.
00:43:08Already from the 1990s, you know, the Pentagon officials knew that they basically had two levers of power
00:43:17to maintain their hegemony in the region, one of which was relying on their allies,
00:43:26you know, Egypt, Turkey, Jordan, Israel, Saudi Arabia, and so on.
00:43:32And the other one was projection of power.
00:43:35So, meaning, you know, if somebody starts to act independent,
00:43:39they just send their aircraft carrier strike groups and they just scare everybody into submission.
00:43:47Well, that doesn't work anymore, either one.
00:43:49You know, so the projection of power doesn't work anymore.
00:43:51Everybody has seen through it.
00:43:53And the U.S., the Western alliance is also failing because, you know, you can see that even the Saudis are not so loyal anymore
00:44:06and they are realizing that the game is up.
00:44:09So all of that is imploding.
00:44:11Militarily, they cannot defeat Iran.
00:44:15So if it goes to war, it's going to lead to very, very bad consequences for the West and for Israel,
00:44:28but it's also going to be very, very damaging to the region.
00:44:34You know, economic destruction, casualties, possible nuclear fallout, and so forth.
00:44:41So it's best avoided.
00:44:43But when we talk about what the game is from the Russian and Chinese side, I think it's, well, obviously, Iran is a very important node in the Belt and Road Initiative.
00:44:59I meant to say Iran.
00:45:00I don't know.
00:45:01Maybe I said Israel.
00:45:01Iran.
00:45:02You said Iran.
00:45:02Iran is an important member of the BRICS alliance, BRICS group, and Iran is also an important anchor of the new security architecture on the continent that the Russians and the Chinese want to create.
00:45:19Because up until now, for the last more than 100 years, we had an insecurity architecture on the continent.
00:45:29And this was deliberately created by the British in order to be able to keep the region destabilized at all times.
00:45:38And the reason for that is because they wanted to prevent the emergence of a regional power that could go independent.
00:45:46They could defend their sovereignty against the empire and, let's say, reject the empire's diktat.
00:45:53And so that now is, you know, obviously Iran, but also Russia and China.
00:45:58And so they created this arc of instability that goes, it runs from the Baltic states down to the Mediterranean, you know, the Baltic states, the Balkans, Turkey, Greece, Eastern Mediterranean.
00:46:17And then it runs across all the way to the Koreas, from the southern crescent of the Eurasian landmass.
00:46:26You have all these flashpoints of instability that could be detonated one against the other.
00:46:33And they made sure that you had countries on hostile terms, one against the other, like Saudi Arabia versus Iran, which used to be, you know, they are now friends.
00:46:47But for a long time, they were enemies.
00:46:51Greece versus Turkey.
00:46:54Azerbaijan, Armenia.
00:46:55You know, they made sure, before the British left, they made sure to partition India, India, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh.
00:47:11And then, you know, so you could name a number of these flashpoints.
00:47:20And they're everywhere, and their objective is always to keep the region, to keep the whole continent destabilized, because you cannot rule it militarily.
00:47:30You know, there isn't enough troops that you could conquer the Eurasian continent and police it by force.
00:47:38So what you do instead is you do divide and conquer.
00:47:40You keep everybody at war against everybody else.
00:47:43So we've had a century of war, basically, there all the time.
00:47:47And so what the Russians and the Chinese and the Iranians want to do is they want to change this.
00:47:52They want an actual security architecture so that you can have the whole continent in peace, devoting their energies not to war making, but to industrial production, development of infrastructure, trade, and prosperity.
00:48:14So that, you know, the kinds of developments that you've seen in China and other places can then spread across the whole continent.
00:48:24And we remember that, you know, almost 20 years ago, Vladimir Putin was trying to convey his vision of the continent united from Lisbon to Vladivostok.
00:48:40You know, that you have like a trade zone where you could develop business and trade and build prosperity and build economy and cultural exchanges and so on.
00:48:50And today, Vladimir Putin talks about something he says is a symphony of civilizations.
00:48:57Well, this is exactly the opposite of what the British Empire has been doing for the last 200 years.
00:49:02They've been keeping everybody at war.
00:49:05They've been keeping all of the global south in destitute poverty in order that they can loot the place and enslave the people unmolested.
00:49:16When I say enslave, you know, once upon a time it was outright slavery, but today it's, you know, working for peanuts that you can barely eke out a living.
00:49:27And we've seen that after more than a century of colonization of the African continent, all these countries are still in, they're poor.
00:49:35A huge percentage of the population don't even have electricity.
00:49:40There's no meaningful infrastructure to speak of.
00:49:43Agriculture is underdeveloped.
00:49:45Health sector practically doesn't exist.
00:49:47Education is poor.
00:49:49And the place is still overrun by terror groups and separatist gangs who are always almost invariably sponsored by these Western intelligence networks.
00:50:02Alex, if the United States participates directly in the conflict with Iran, I would assume Hezbollah and Houthis and the people, the resistance in Iraq, they're going to join the war.
00:50:18They're not going to sit and say, just see the United States attacking Iran.
00:50:22I don't know if the United States is thinking of that because they made an agreement with Houthis in Yemen.
00:50:31But look at what would happen if the Strait of Hormuz and Bab al-Mandab in the Red Sea, these are two important points, crucial points for the global economy.
00:50:44If they can just put an end to this sort of communication that is happening in these two important points, how is that going to influence the United States economically?
00:51:02It's really the foremost of Bab al-Mandab.
00:51:04Can we understand that?
00:51:06Or maybe Europeans would be influenced by that a lot, more than the United States.
00:51:12But it's something when you talk about the United States, people say that the United States has somehow can provide everything they need within the country.
00:51:23But the economy doesn't work that way.
00:51:26The economy is a network.
00:51:29If something happens to the network, everyone would be influenced by that sort of clash or some sort of problem that is happening within the system.
00:51:42And how do you see the future of these two, this conflict, considering the Bab al-Mandab and Strait of Hormuz?
00:51:53It would be hugely destabilizing for Western economies in general.
00:51:57You know, United States, Britain, and Western Europe, and probably Japan as well.
00:52:02One thing that you could, if you shut off the traffic of oil from the Persian Gulf, I think that you could see oil prices skyrocket into triple digits.
00:52:15And who knows?
00:52:17You know, it could be $100.
00:52:21It could be more than $100.
00:52:22It could be, it could be $200.
00:52:28Nobody can predict, right?
00:52:31You very likely would see a spike in interest rates, a sharp spike in the interest rates, which are already high, which means that you would have a collapse of the prices of treasury bonds.
00:52:44This is the single most, you know, the market for the U.S. 10-year treasury bond, treasury note, is by far the most important market in the world because the price on that defines pretty much everything else downstream.
00:52:59So, you would have the collapsing price of the U.S. Treasury instruments, which on the other hand, they represent collateral for a lot of financial institutions.
00:53:11So, you would have a collapse in the value of their collateral.
00:53:15So, you might, you know, they would have to revamp the whole repo market like back in the 2000, back in 2019.
00:53:25It would be, it would be an economic Armageddon, very likely.
00:53:28And you would, you know, the rise in the oil price, you would end up having very high levels of inflation.
00:53:37And so, then, what does that mean?
00:53:40That, on the other hand, means also that you would have a collapse in purchasing power, a cost of living crisis.
00:53:47So, you might get social uprisings at home.
00:53:51It would be very, very hugely destabilizing.
00:53:54So, you know, as I said in the beginning, the whole thing is so profoundly idiotic at every conceivable level that I really have a hard time with it to even believe.
00:54:07You know, the Western powers, not so much the United States, but the European Union and Britain, they have very severe political crisis at home that they're trying to shove under the carpet by canceling democracy.
00:54:25But, you know, all these incumbent governments are very deeply unpopular with their people.
00:54:32And every time the people get to exercise any degree of democracy, they want to throw these governments out.
00:54:40And so, I think that a war would be useful to them for cohesion, for another justification to cancel democracy, a way to explain away, you know, what's happening to our healthcare system.
00:54:56Where's the food?
00:54:57Why do we have shortages of food?
00:54:59Why is the economy disintegrating?
00:55:03Where are the jobs?
00:55:04You know, why are the pensions not being paid correctly on time and so on?
00:55:08So, you know, all of these things, if you make a big war somewhere, whether it's in the Middle East or against Russia, you can always say like, oh, well, it's the evil Iranians.
00:55:17That's why we don't have jobs.
00:55:18It's, you know, we have to defend Israel, which is, you know, why you can't get an appointment with your doctor,
00:55:25or why there's no medicines in the pharmacies or why there's no food on the shelves of the supermarket and so on.
00:55:33So, you can explain all your failures away by pointing the finger at an external enemy, right?
00:55:39So, and you get a degree of social cohesion, which wouldn't be there because these governments are all so deeply unpopular that people can't wait to get rid of them.
00:55:50And so, to preserve themselves, you know, they, you know, this is the model that's been used by the oligarchies for thousands of years.
00:55:59You know, when things at home get unbearable and there's a risk of social uprising, well, at that point, you yell barbarians at the gate.
00:56:06And you scare everybody that, you know, these barbarians are going to overrun us and, you know, kill our children and rape our women and destroy our fields and our homes.
00:56:18So, you send all the men, all the fighting age men, you send them off to some war abroad where most of them are going to get slaughtered, you know, which is, you know, what the oligarchy actually hopes to achieve.
00:56:30And then, you know, they wipe the slate clean.
00:56:33They say, okay, the war is over.
00:56:35It was very damaging, but now, you know, we're going to fix everything.
00:56:39And they, they write the crisis, but they preserve the continuity of their model of governance.
00:56:46And they preserve their hold on the levers of power.
00:56:51Whereas without the external enemy, there's a risk that there's going to be a revolution at home.
00:56:55And that, you know, the people are going to wheel out the guillotines and that a lot of these people who are in power are going to end up, you know, like, like, like Mussolini and like Ceausescu and so forth.
00:57:08I literally believe, Alex, what's going on in Ukraine and right now in Iran, between Iran and Israel, are the very signs of that the old world is dying.
00:57:22And they're just, they're people in the United States and they don't believe that the things are not happening, are not, are not going the way that they want to be.
00:57:34Even you, you have some moments of sanity with the Biden, even with the Biden administration, Anthony Blinken, before leaving Washington said, we cannot do anything with the sanctions against Russia.
00:57:48We don't know.
00:57:49We have to study what has happened with the sanctions, why we are not that much capable.
00:57:53You see Marco Rubio coming in and saying the same sort of thing, the U.S. hegemony is just, but after all, looking at the situation, it doesn't seem, they say something, they have some moments of sanity when they're talking about it.
00:58:11But the muscle memory is just the same, they still feel that they can do something, they can, let's go to the next, next step, let's, if, if we can get something, if we couldn't get something with Ukraine, let's go on Iran.
00:58:24Because, if you look at the, this triangle, Russia, China, and Iran, they started with Russia, it didn't work for Russia.
00:58:35And right now, they're fighting with Iran, in Iran.
00:58:39I don't see Israel being capable of defeating Iran.
00:58:43I literally don't see that.
00:58:45And this participation, as you've mentioned, of the United States would worsen the situation.
00:58:50It's not going to improve in the way that would benefit the United States.
00:58:55Do you feel that the Iran, this, what's going on in Iran would be the last step on the part of the empire?
00:59:04I think it's going to accelerate the end of the empire.
00:59:09It's not going to be the end.
00:59:10You know, the British have been recolonizing parts of the world for the last, I can't really tell because it's been done, it's been done covertly, but at least for 10, 15 years, you know, and so they've been, they've been taking increasing political control in a lot of African countries, you know, like Tanzania, Kenya.
00:59:40Nigeria, Cameroon, and so forth, and they've been, again, developing this colonial dominance over those countries.
00:59:51And so that, you know, that does give them a certain degree of power and wealth with which they can influence events around the world.
00:59:59You know, like already in 1992, their foreign minister, Douglas Heard was saying that Britain was punching above its weight and we continue, we intend to, we intend to retain this position of power.
01:00:19And so ever since they've been doing this covert way of penetrating countries, getting control over the levers of power through, you know, through the media, through NGOs, through, you know, corrupting government, local government officials,
01:00:40sending their special forces to defend their puppet regimes, and also where they don't have control orchestrating regime changes and assassinations and color revolutions and all this.
01:00:57So in this sense, you know, it's not, you know, the empire is not going to just implode like a house of cards, they're going to continue, but it's, you know, the farther this, the more battles they lose, you know, in Russia, in Ukraine, in Iran, and so on, the weaker they become.
01:01:17And so the process will take some time, but I think that it will fold all the way because today I'm certain that the Russians and the Chinese exactly understand this game and they are paying very close attention to the events and they will continue to fight the empire.
01:01:38Because if you don't, if you think that you're just going to secure your, secure like a buffer zone, you know, take part of Ukraine, create a buffer zone to insulate yourself from Western invasions.
01:01:53But if you leave the empire intact and you let it regain its strength by colonizing Africa and South America and East Asia and elsewhere, well, they're going to just come back for you.
01:02:10Because, you know, the Western powers in more than 300 years never stopped antagonizing Russia and trying to overthrow Russia, partition, you know, balkanize it into many small pieces, attack it, invade it, inflict terror attacks, sabotage, proxy wars all along the Russian Southern and Western border.
01:02:39So that's going to continue indefinitely.
01:02:43They never gave up and they never will.
01:02:45So, you know, if you want peace, if you want to secure a long lasting peace, you're going to have to figure out a way to quarantine this British imperial system.
01:02:59And that means that you have to disenfranchise them everywhere.
01:03:02Eventually, you're going to have to put their offshore centers out of commission.
01:03:09You're going to have to put them outside of the law and you're going to have to probably overhaul the monetary system in the world.
01:03:17So that, you know, they cannot use money and trade relations to influence governments and to plunder wealth from them in, you know, in these hard to trace illicit ways.
01:03:34And then, you know, Britain becomes an independent island nation that goes back to minding its own business and having, let's say, friendly and constructive relations with other governments and countries,
01:03:59rather than having an exclusively predatory relationship with everybody else in the world.
01:04:05Many people may not know Iran because we were talking about breaking Russia into federations.
01:04:13If you remember when the conflict in Ukraine started right now in Iran, there was an article in Jerusalem Post talking about they want to break Iran in different parts, different oblasts, Turkish, Kurdish, Baluchis.
01:04:26And go ahead and many people in the West don't understand the diversity of these people in Iran.
01:04:35You have all of these.
01:04:36It's almost a rainbow of cultures in Iran.
01:04:39We have the same culture, but a rainbow of different groups coming together because it's an ancient land.
01:04:47It's not something new.
01:04:48And we have Jews, Christians, Muslims, Zoroastrians, all living together for many years, for many years.
01:04:58For centuries.
01:05:00I mean, Jews have been there since, what, 3,000 years practically.
01:05:05Unmolested.
01:05:06Second largest Jewish community in the Middle East.
01:05:10And at the same time, you know, people like Benjamin Netanyahu are trying to persuade everybody in the West that the Iranians want to create a second Holocaust, which is so completely idiotic.
01:05:27But that man doesn't even speak without, you know, lying.
01:05:31So I don't even know why anybody listens to him at all.
01:05:35But yes, you're right.
01:05:36You know, the wet dream of the Western Empire, of these globalists, is to balkanize any power, any nation that is capable of challenging your dominance.
01:05:56So, you know, they want to balkanize Russia.
01:05:58They want to balkanize Iran.
01:06:00They even want to balkanize the United States.
01:06:03Because, you know, the United States actually came to be as a rejection of the Western colonialist, imperialist rule.
01:06:13And so it does have still those Republican foundations and traditions.
01:06:19And so, so long as the Western Empire can control the United States and use it for its own ends, they like to keep the United States intact.
01:06:31But as soon as the United States starts to say, wait a minute, why, why should we be doing this?
01:06:39This is costing us extremely dearly.
01:06:43And what's our benefit?
01:06:44We're, you know, like we're maintaining all these military bases everywhere around the world.
01:06:48We're in poor relations with everybody.
01:06:51We have horrible reputation.
01:06:52We're constantly at war.
01:06:54We're losing people.
01:06:56We're losing money.
01:06:57We're losing weapons.
01:06:58We're losing ammunition.
01:06:59What is the upside?
01:07:00Why don't we just have good relations with everybody else?
01:07:04Well, at that point, you know, the United States becomes no longer useful to the empire.
01:07:09And now then they start to encourage, you know, partition of the United States.
01:07:15And they want, they say like, hey, you know, maybe we can, you know, California can come out and be its own country and maybe Texas can come out and be its own country and so forth.
01:07:25And so they encourage this movement because, you know, it's easier to, to balkanize somewhere, keep, you know, then you can keep countries all at war against each other.
01:07:34Of course, you know, if they partitioned Iran, they would, you know, definitely use one part of Iran to, to wage war in the other part of Iran.
01:07:43And then you loan, you know, you loan each side money to be able to fight the war.
01:07:47You sell them weapons and all the wealth from those countries then keeps flowing to you.
01:07:53It's, it's exactly the same model that's been applied all over the world for centuries now.
01:07:59And, but I think that the world is seeing through it.
01:08:02I think that in the United States now it's, it's not just Trump, the, the, the rejection of the, of the, of the global empire of the globalization is, is, is, is actually quite broad based.
01:08:16And so I think that even if you took Trump out or compromised him or whatever, you would still find that there's a lot of resistance in the United States to this European colonialists model of governments that they want to impose on everybody else by force.
01:08:34And of course, and of course, the force mainly comes from the United States.
01:08:39They are the ones who always have to come, come in and wage war and overthrow governments and bomb everybody to pieces.
01:08:48But I think that the Americans themselves are starting to understand that this has practically destroyed their country, destroyed their economy, destroyed their relations with, with other countries in the world.
01:08:59And so, and so more and more people want nothing to do with this anymore.
01:09:03So this is why you get, you know, more and more of these sane statements from people like Matt Gaetz and Marco Rubio and, and J.D. Vance and, and, and Marjorie Taylor Greene.
01:09:15This, you know, this is gathering momentum.
01:09:18It's, it's the, the awareness of the people is rising and they're rejecting the European colonialist approach to governing the world.
01:09:29And so, you know, eventually it's all going to run its course and, and the Western empire, you know, will fail as all other empires to history have failed.
01:09:43There's, there's no exception.
01:09:45So I, I think it'll be a good day for humanity when that happens.
01:09:49Alex, before wrapping up, during the second world war, we have many Jews in Iran, by the way, but during the second world war, we know that Netanyahu is a Polish Jew and he's running Israel.
01:10:04Many Polish Jews came to Iran during the second world war with the situation they had in Poland and they were welcomed by Iranian people.
01:10:15And many people may not remember these, you know, we're not told that this happened, but I don't know if those people are alive in Poland or their children.
01:10:27They remember what has happened.
01:10:30The Iranian people, when we talk about the Iranian people, there's so much, I don't know if you have to go to Iran to understand the society, the culture, the sort of kindness of these people.
01:10:43They don't want to harm anybody.
01:10:46They don't hate Jews because Jews are part of the Iranian society.
01:10:51And the way that Netanyahu is trying to picture Iran is somehow unbelievable.
01:10:57And I just, I wanted to mention that because many people are saying that, you know, the other day I was talking with one of these Brazilian doctors that I was talking to.
01:11:07And he said, do you, do, do, do you have Jews and Christians in Iran?
01:11:12And yeah, there are a lot of Jews and Christians in Iran for such a long time.
01:11:18These people don't understand.
01:11:19They want to make a war between religion, the different religions, but it's not that it's something different.
01:11:27It's all about hegemony.
01:11:28As you've mentioned, it's all about the, how you can run these countries and Russia, China, all of that.
01:11:35And I think people need to understand this is not a religious war.
01:11:41It's something beyond that.
01:11:43Yeah.
01:11:44Yeah.
01:11:44It's, it's not a religious war.
01:11:46They use religion only as a way to divide people, you know, because when you have religious diversity, like, you know, like I mentioned, as they're, as they're preparing the terrain in Bosnia to, to, to trigger a Balkan war.
01:11:59So, uh, in Bosnia, Bosnia is useful to them because it, it has three constituent peoples.
01:12:06You have Serbs who are Orthodox, you have Muslims, and you have, uh, Croats who are, uh, Catholic Christians.
01:12:13Well, you know, uh, it's easy enough to orchestrate a massacre.
01:12:19You know, you get a bunch of, say, Croatian thugs to go and kill a bunch of innocent people in a, in a Muslim village.
01:12:30And then you get a bunch of Muslim thugs to go and exact revenge.
01:12:38And then, and then they, um, stage an even bigger massacre in, uh, uh, of Croatian civilians.
01:12:45And then, you know, the next thing, everybody's at war at everybody against everybody because they are now scared that, oh, look, you know, then the media takes over and they, you know, they amplify the story.
01:12:58It's, it's, it's, it's done deliberately in a very loud and obvious way so that everybody knows, everybody has heard that, oh, these Croatians have massacred a bunch of Muslims.
01:13:09And, oh, these Muslims have massacred a bunch of, uh, a bunch of, uh, uh, uh, uh, Croats.
01:13:16And then they throw in rapes in the, in the mix.
01:13:19And the next thing, you know, you have everybody, you know, polarizing, uh, and, and you have a war.
01:13:28British and other Western, um, intelligence agencies do this as a matter of course, you know, that's to them, like, like, like,
01:13:39drinking water for you, you know, it's nothing.
01:13:41And they do this, you'll, you'll find probably hundreds of examples of this to history in, in 1990.
01:13:50I think it was, well, I don't know, 1994, 1995, I forget exactly the year, you know, at the time when the, when the war in Bosnia started, yeah, maybe it was 92.
01:14:01So, uh, at that time you had a, an alliance of Serbs and, and of, sorry, of the, of Croatians and Muslims in Bosnia fighting the Serbs.
01:14:14And then, you know, somebody somewhere decided that that was not a good situation.
01:14:20So they wanted to break up the alliance, uh, between the Serbs and the Croats, between the Serbs, the Croats and the Muslims, I'm sorry.
01:14:30And so this is exactly what they did.
01:14:32First, they, first, they staged the massacre of, uh, of Croatian, uh, civilians in a Croatian village, which was attributed to, to Muslim units.
01:14:42And then after that, they, they staged the massacre of, uh, Muslims in, uh, in a Muslim village by the Croatians.
01:14:51Uh, as we later found out, the whole thing was, or was orchestrated by, by British special, British special forces.
01:14:58And, but, you know, it did break up the, the alliance between Croats and Muslims.
01:15:04And now you had everybody against everybody, you know, Croats against Muslims and the Serbs, Muslims against Croats and the Serbs and Serbs against Muslims.
01:15:13And, and the, so it was, it was a, it was a large bloodletting and, you know, they've done it in Syria.
01:15:20They've, they've done it in Yemen.
01:15:21They've done it, uh, all over the place everywhere and they keep doing it.
01:15:28Yeah.
01:15:29So, thank you so much, Alex, for being with us today.
01:15:34Always a pleasure.
01:15:36Bye-bye.
01:15:37Bye-bye.
01:15:38Bye-bye.
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