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Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, former Chief of Staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell, delivers a powerful and urgent analysis on the potential consequences of a U.S. war with Iran 🇺🇸🇮🇷. With decades of experience in military and foreign policy, he explains how such a conflict could trigger regional chaos 🔥, economic collapse 📉, and long-term damage to America’s credibility on the global stage 🌍.
From strategic miscalculations to humanitarian costs 🕊️, this conversation goes beyond headlines to expose the real stakes of war. Wilkerson offers a clear warning and a call for wiser leadership, diplomacy 🤝, and a deep understanding of history.
🎥 Essential viewing for anyone interested in foreign affairs, military strategy, and the future of international peace.
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From strategic miscalculations to humanitarian costs 🕊️, this conversation goes beyond headlines to expose the real stakes of war. Wilkerson offers a clear warning and a call for wiser leadership, diplomacy 🤝, and a deep understanding of history.
🎥 Essential viewing for anyone interested in foreign affairs, military strategy, and the future of international peace.
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00:30Hi, everyone. Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom.
00:36Today is Thursday, June 19th, 2025.
00:39Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson joins us now.
00:42Colonel Wilkerson, thank you very much for your time, as always,
00:46and thank you for allowing me to pick your brain,
00:48which I will try and do gently, but with a little bit of agita coming up.
00:53How do you think Prime Minister Netanyahu managed to dislodge
00:59President Trump from the conclusions of the American, British,
01:03and even Israeli intel that Iran does not have a nuclear weapon
01:10and hasn't been working on one since 2002?
01:13How did Trump go from complying with what his own intel people told him
01:18to saying, I don't care what she says.
01:20I believe the contrary anyway.
01:24I'm going to offer a very simple answer to that question, but I think it's right,
01:29and that is that he didn't know what Tulsi had said,
01:33and she had not passed it on to him in a way that permeated the screen around him
01:39and got to him.
01:39And so he was caught at that plane door with the question that why do you differ
01:46from what your DNI said, and he had no other choice in Trump land
01:51but to say, I don't believe it or I don't agree with it.
01:56Chris, play the clip from Air Force One,
01:59including the embedded statement under oath from Tulsi Gabbard.
02:04People always said that you don't believe Iran should be able to have a nuclear weapon,
02:09but how close do you personally think that they were to getting one?
02:12Because Tulsi Gabbard testified in March that the intelligence community said
02:17Iran wasn't building a nuclear weapon.
02:19The IC continues to assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon.
02:22I don't care what she said.
02:23I think they were very close to having it.
02:27If he means I don't care what she said, shouldn't she resign?
02:31I would, or I she, but I understand he's really become, in my camp, a sycophant
02:40because she put Will Ruger, who I know quite well from the Koch Institute,
02:45in charge of the ultimate decision as to whether or not such an analysis
02:49would make it up to the president or even to her.
02:53And I know what Will Ruger's decision will be.
02:56What will that be?
02:57Well, I mean, his decision will be nothing will go up that will conflict
03:01with Donald's preconceived conceptions.
03:04Well, then they're not giving him adequate and full intel.
03:07They're telling him what they think he wants to hear,
03:09just like you and Larry and Ray told me the CIA did in the Biden years.
03:17Wow.
03:18It's even worse because I think...
03:20This is disgraceful, Colonel, because people risk their lives to get that intel.
03:24Yep.
03:25I think there are people behind Trump.
03:28We all know who they are.
03:29We can't put names to all of them, but I can put names to some of them
03:33who are advising him in a neoconservative fashion, and he gets a fixed opinion,
03:40and it doesn't matter what flows over the transom with regard to official intelligence.
03:46Does she, let me restate this, is she the chief briefer of the President of the United States
03:56each morning on matters of intelligence?
03:59I'm told she doesn't even get across the threshold that she does what she does,
04:03usually in written or pictorial format.
04:07If she does brief anyone, it's Vance.
04:09Well, he probably doesn't have the patience for the briefing.
04:16We know he's not going to read a briefing.
04:20Yes, the latest developments were they were seriously judged, seriously trying to develop
04:27what they were calling a Fox News format briefing for him that would be purely visual.
04:32It would be clippy.
04:34It would be just like a Fox News forecast, probably as reliable as that, too.
04:40But he would pay attention to it.
04:44Are they dealing with a person with the mind of a child?
04:48I'm not exactly sure how I would describe Trump's mind,
04:52but it's certainly not like yours or mine or any other sentient adult that we know.
04:58How badly did Israel damage Iran's nuclear enrichment, air defenses, offensive weaponry
05:12in that initial barrage last Thursday night, which caused such euphoria in Israel
05:18and among their Zionist supporters, euphoria, which has now dissipated?
05:23And my contacts in the country and in this country who might know what they're talking about
05:28tell me that they took some significant blows that one would expect when it's an attack like
05:33Yamamoto executed on Pearl Harbor in 1941.
05:38They were caught completely off guard because they were lulled into being that way by the promise
05:43of diplomacy, mostly from the United States, but apparently adhered to by Beebe at least for
05:50the next 48 hours or so.
05:53So they were caught completely off guard.
05:54It was like Saddam Hussein attacking Kuwait.
05:58But I'm also hearing, and I got lots of videos to tell me this is true, that much is left.
06:07Poured in this morning videos from friends in Australia, friends in Israel, friends elsewhere
06:13of weapons hitting Israel.
06:15Let me ask you the opposite then.
06:19How badly have the Iranians struck Israeli sites?
06:24In Israel's minds, I'm sure terribly, and in actual destruction, pinpoint destruction, not
06:32this kind of wholesale destruction, although they have hit hospitals and they have hit other
06:37civilian institutions, but mainly they've tried to stick with military targets.
06:42Now, Israel buries its military targets intentionally in civilian buildings and civilian surroundings,
06:48so it's almost impossible to avoid it entirely.
06:52But the videos I got this morning, I would say that a lot of Israel is aflame, and Netanyahu
06:58is hiding it.
06:59He has cut down everything that could possibly get out, except his richer citizens are taking
07:06yachts off the coast and going to Greece or to Cyprus or someplace.
07:11They're leaving Israel.
07:14This is becoming desperate for Netanyahu, and maybe even desperate for Israel.
07:20Well, we have a montage put together by CNN of Prime Minister Netanyahu's various warnings
07:31about how imminent the Iran nuclear capability is.
07:37He's been warning about this, warning about it.
07:39Since 92.
07:41For 30 years.
07:43Yeah.
07:43I think there's a word of truth in any of these warnings, but I'm anxious to hear your thoughts
07:49on it.
07:50Chris?
07:51The deadline for attaining this goal is getting extremely close.
07:55And Iran, by the way, is also outpacing Iraq in the development of ballistic missile systems
08:01that they hope will reach the eastern seaboard of the United States within 15 years.
08:06By next spring, at most, by next summer, at current enrichment rates, they will have finished
08:14the medium enrichment and move on to the final stage.
08:19From there, it's only a few months, possibly a few weeks, before they get enough enriched
08:25uranium for the first bomb.
08:28The foremost sponsor of global terrorism could be weeks away from having enough enriched uranium
08:35for an entire arsenal of nuclear weapons.
08:38That would place a militant Islamic terror regime weeks away from having the fissile material
08:46for an entire arsenal of nuclear bombs.
08:49If not stopped, Iran could produce a nuclear weapon in a very short time.
08:54It could be a year, it could be within a few months, less than a year.
09:01I think it's easy to say that none of that is truthful, but I guess it sunk in with Donald
09:07Trump.
09:08Well, he also said that Iran was the greatest state sponsor of terrorism in the world.
09:13The country right next to Iran, Saudi Arabia, is the greatest state sponsor of terrorism
09:19in the world, as 9-11 dutifully testifies to.
09:24And there are a lot of countries, and I would even place Pakistan in there to a certain extent.
09:29We just saw the ambroglio with India over the terrorist attacks in Kashmir.
09:34So, Iran has not really been a significant sponsor of terrorists.
09:39In fact, it's fought them.
09:41It fought ISIS.
09:42It fought Al-Qaeda.
09:43It's fought other terrorists that managed to get within its midst, because they don't
09:48believe in that sort of action, and they don't believe that their state should be subject
09:53to the kinds of things terrorists do.
09:56They were our allies in Afghanistan, Judge, some of our best allies in Afghanistan.
10:01And let me tell you something else.
10:03One of the things that got Israel into Iran and placed all these strategic drones and
10:09such was Afghans, Afghans whom they recruited out of Afghanistan, who had a bone to pick
10:16with Iran, which Afghanistan always has, and they paid them and they went in.
10:21And now Iran's captured a great many of them, and I'll give you two guesses as to what's going
10:26to happen to them.
10:27Wow.
10:29How is it that Trump can avoid hard intel and just make a decision because BB wants it?
10:42Because the pressure on him, I think, from these billionaires who were behind him, one
10:47third of whom are Jewish Americans, as to say, dual citizens at a minimum.
10:53They want this to happen.
10:55They want this to happen.
10:57I've said all along, Israel is our attack dog in the Levant, and our attack dog has to
11:05accomplish the missions we want it to accomplish, one of which is regime change in Iran.
11:11And what I fear greatly now, Judge, is they cannot accomplish that.
11:15They are not going to accomplish that.
11:17So we're going to jump in to try and do it ourselves.
11:20What will the Russians, the Chinese, the Pakistanis do?
11:25The Russians will probably exult in the high oil prices because it will just be a god,
11:32it'll be a windfall for them because oil will go up to, you know, maybe even a hundred or
11:37more dollars a barrel.
11:39I don't think in the long run, though, either China or Russia is going to be very happy about
11:43this, and I might suggest that there will be some clandestine activity that will move into
11:49the region to counter some of the things that we're trying to do if it's successful.
11:54Now, I don't think for a moment that this country of 90,000 people, 50% Persian, this country will collapse.
12:03The only way we will be able to change that regime is to mount the peninsula, as it were,
12:10to put troops on the ground and march into Iran.
12:14That will be the end of the American empire.
12:18See if these clips ring a bell and if history isn't repeating itself, Chris.
12:27Neither the United States of America nor the world community of nations can tolerate deliberate
12:33deception and offensive threats on the part of any nation, large or small.
12:40Every statement I make today is backed up by sources, solid sources.
12:44These are not assertions.
12:46What we're giving you are facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence.
12:50Saddam Hussein and his regime have made no effort, no effort, to disarm as required by the international community.
12:58Saddam Hussein and his regime are concealing their efforts to produce more weapons of mass destruction.
13:05At this hour, American and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm Iraq,
13:12to free its people and to defend the world from grave danger.
13:16They have ballistic missiles that can now reach deep into Europe and soon could reach the United States.
13:21Do you want these people to have nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them to your cities?
13:26Today it's Tel Aviv, tomorrow it's New York.
13:29LBJ and his domino theory, today Tel Aviv, tomorrow New York.
13:35You know, he actually, Netanyahu actually stole line for line, word for word, a line from Bush's speech to Congress.
13:45He said, we cannot allow the world's most dangerous nation to have the world's most dangerous weapons.
13:52Netanyahu has, he just stole that right out of there.
13:56He's the world's most dangerous nation.
13:59He possesses the world's most dangerous weapons.
14:02Don't you agree?
14:03I agree.
14:04And I think that if Israel, and it looks like they might right now, gets into circumstances where he thinks he's in peril and his state maybe possibly too,
14:14which means he's in peril big time, he will use a nuclear weapon.
14:19And that frightens me.
14:20It really does.
14:21Because I have no doubt that Golda Meir was telling the truth in 1973 when she looked at that BBC reporter over the phone,
14:28she was actually talking to him on the phone, and said when he asked her, would you use the nuclear weapon if you were in dire straits?
14:36Absolutely, she said.
14:38When the British Parliament was debating a motion by then Prime Minister Tony Blair to have the British military join the American invasion of Iraq,
14:53I don't know how much help they provided, but they had a great debate on the floor of the British House of Commons.
15:01We're going to play for you the last two minutes of the best of those arguing against military intervention, Sir Anthony Wedgwood Benn.
15:14Before you play it, let me just tell you, I was in London when I got immersed in the largest anti-war demonstration in the world's history.
15:22Two and a half million people were surrounding me.
15:26The Bobby's horses couldn't even move.
15:28Is this when you were Chief of Staff of the State Department?
15:31Yes, and I happened to be in London when that outburst broke.
15:35It was incredible, incredible.
15:37You may have been very close to this when it was said.
15:42I finish just by saying this, war is an easy thing to talk about.
15:47There are not many people of the generation that remember it.
15:50The right honourable gentleman served with the six in the last war.
15:53I never killed anyone, but I wore uniform.
15:55But I was in London in the Blitz in 1940, living in the Millbank Tower where I was born.
16:01Some different ideas have come in since.
16:03And every night I went down to the shelter in Thames House.
16:08Every morning I saw Dockland burning.
16:11500 people were killed in Westminster one night by a land mine.
16:15It was terrifying.
16:16Aren't Arabs terrified?
16:18Aren't Iraqis terrified?
16:19Don't Arab and Iraqi women weep when their children die?
16:23Doesn't bombing strengthen their determination?
16:26What fools we are to live in a generation for which war is a computer game for our children
16:31and just an interesting little Channel 4 news item.
16:35Every Member of Parliament tonight who votes for the Government motion
16:39will be consciously and deliberately accepting the responsibility for the deaths of innocent people
16:46if the war begins as I fear it will.
16:48Now that's for their decision to take.
16:50But this is a quite unique debate in my parliamentary experience
16:54where we ask to share responsibility for a decision we won't really be taking
16:59with consequences for people who have no part to play in the brutality of the regime
17:06which we are dealing with.
17:07And I finish with this.
17:08On October 24th, 1945, and the former Prime Minister from Bexley notes,
17:13will remember it, the United Nations Charter was passed.
17:18And the words of that charter etched into my mind and moved me even as I think of them.
17:24We the people of the United Nations determined to save future generations, succeeding generations,
17:34from the scourge of war which twice in our lifetime has caused untold suffering to mankind.
17:43That was the pledge of that generation to this generation,
17:47and it would be the greatest betrayal of all if we voted to abandon the charter
17:51and take unilateral action and pretend we were doing it in the name of the international community.
17:56And I shall vote against the motion for the reasons that I've given them.
18:02There is no great debate here.
18:06There was a gentleman who looked a little like him, without the British accent,
18:11who stood on an empty Senate floor, Senator Byrd.
18:15And he said, listen, we're getting ready to make a monumental decision.
18:21And you could hear a pin drop. There's no one here but me and the pages.
18:27This decision will be made by an intellectually challenged person in a windowless room
18:34surrounded by people who will tell him what he wants to hear.
18:37Yes, absolutely. I believe that now.
18:41I held out some hope, some faint hope for this man, but I've lost it all now.
18:46So let's say he announces tonight, we'll wait a couple of weeks to bring Iran back to the negotiating table.
18:57The Israelis can do what they want, but we're not going to get involved for a couple of weeks.
19:02Don't worry about it, Ayatollah. We're not going to do anything.
19:06Who would believe him after the subterfuge in Saudi Arabia last month, Colonel?
19:12Absolutely true. Absolutely true. But I will say this, I'll believe him because I'm so desperate I'd believe anything right now.
19:19I wonder if you'll believe this. This is Senator Slotkin interrogating the Secretary of Defense,
19:29who is a graduate of the same academic institution I am, the third oldest university in the United States.
19:37What he says at the end about books is simply reprehensible.
19:43Have you given the order for to be able to shoot at unarmed protesters in any way?
19:50I'm just asking the question. Don't laugh like the whole country.
19:54And by the way, my colleagues. What is that based on? What evidence would you have that an order like that has ever been given?
20:00It is based on Donald Trump giving that order to your predecessor, to a Republican Secretary of Defense, who I give a lot of credit to because he didn't accept the order.
20:08He had more guts and balls than you because he said, I'm not going to send in a uniform military to do something that I know in my gut isn't right.
20:15He was asked to shoot at their legs. He wrote that in his book. That's not hearsay.
20:20So you're poo-pooing of this. It just shows you don't understand who we are as a country, who we are.
20:27And all of my colleagues across the aisle, especially the ones that served, should want an apolitical military and not want citizens to be scared of their own military.
20:36I love the military. I served alongside my whole life. So I'm worried about you tainting it.
20:41Have you given the order? Have you given the order that they can use lethal force against honor? I want the answer to be no. Please tell me it's no. Have you given the order?
20:51Senator, I'd be careful what you read in books and believing it, except for the Bible.
20:55Oh, my God.
20:58Oh, my God. That's my comeback, too.
21:01That's as bad as Ted Cruz telling Tucker Carlson that the Bible tells him if he's not on Israel's side, he might be in peril.
21:10It is just as bad. I was going to raise the Ted Cruz stuff. I don't know how that guy can show his face after what Tucker did to him.
21:20He did it to himself. Tucker is just the instrument of exposing Cruz's frauds.
21:26But that statement he made at the end without saying, as McGregor said, here's the standard for the use of military force.
21:37You can't use deadly force unless it's being unless it's being used on you.
21:43No person under my command will be using deadly force unless deadly force is used on them.
21:51Instead, he mocked up by laughing at her and gave this absurd answer, defying his own Princeton education.
22:00Don't believe what you read in books except in the Bible.
22:06Well, that got him out of having to tell an abject lie.
22:09Yeah.
22:10She asked him if he had given authority in the rules of engagement for deadly force.
22:17He never answered that question.
22:19Correct. Correct. Correct.
22:21Here's Tucker Carlson going after Senator Cruz on this issue of what does the Bible command?
22:30You're a senator and you're going by the Old Testament.
22:32Well, here it is. Cut 22.
22:34Growing up in Sunday school, I was taught from the Bible.
22:37Those who bless Israel will be blessed and those who curse Israel will be cursed.
22:42And from my perspective, I want to be on the blessing side of things of those who bless the government of Israel.
22:48Those who bless Israel is what it doesn't say the government of it says the nation of Israel.
22:52So that's in the Bible.
22:54As a Christian, I believe that.
22:55Where is that?
22:56I can find it to you.
22:57I don't have the scripture off the tip of mine.
23:00You pull out the phone and use it.
23:02It's in Genesis.
23:03But so you're quoting a Bible phrase.
23:06You don't have context for it.
23:07You don't know where in the Bible it is, but that's like your theology.
23:09I'm confused.
23:10What does that even mean?
23:12Tucker.
23:13I'm a Christian.
23:14I want to know what you're talking about.
23:16Where does where does my support for Israel come from?
23:19Number one, because biblically we are commanded to support Israel.
23:23But number two.
23:24Hold on.
23:25Hold on.
23:26You're a senator and now you're throwing out theology.
23:28And I am a Christian.
23:29I am allowed to weigh in on this.
23:30We are commanded as Christians support the government of Israel.
23:33We are commanded to support Israel.
23:35And what does that mean?
23:36We're told those who bless Israel will be blessed.
23:38Hold on.
23:39Define Israel.
23:40This is important.
23:41Are you kidding?
23:42This is a majority Christian country.
23:43Define Israel.
23:44Do you not know what Israel is?
23:45That would be the country you've asked like 49 questions about.
23:48So that's what Genesis.
23:50That's what God is talking about.
23:51The nation of Israel.
23:52Yes.
23:53And so is that the current borders, the current leadership?
23:55He's talking about the political entity called Israel.
23:57He's talking about the nation of Israel.
23:59Yet nations exist.
24:00And he's discussing a nation.
24:01A nation was the people of Israel.
24:03They're the descendants of Abraham.
24:04The nation God's referring to in Genesis.
24:06Is that the same as the country run by Benjamin Netanyahu right now?
24:09Yes.
24:10It is.
24:11And by the way, it's not run by Benjamin Netanyahu as a dictator.
24:13It's a democratic country that elected.
24:14I'm not saying he's a dictator.
24:15He's the prime minister.
24:16What?
24:17But just just like, you know, America is the country run by Donald Trump.
24:21No, actually, the American people elected Donald Trump.
24:23The same principle.
24:24This is silly.
24:25I'm talking about the political entity of modern Israel.
24:27Yes.
24:28And that is.
24:29You believe that's what God was talking about in Genesis.
24:31I do.
24:32But but that country's existed since when?
24:34For thousands of years.
24:36Now, there was a time when it didn't exist and that was recreated just over seven.
24:39But I'm saying I think most people understand that line in Genesis to refer to the Jewish people, God's chosen people.
24:50That's not what it says.
24:51OK, Israel.
24:53But you don't even know where in the Bible it is.
24:56Other, I'm sorry to say, Princeton graduate.
25:01Yes.
25:02Ted Cruz actually claiming his votes on the floor of the Senate are directed by the Old Testament.
25:10And Nebuchadnezzar came in to that group called the Israelites, not Israel, conquered them, burned their temple, put those he didn't kill in slavery, and they wandered for years.
25:23Is that the same country that was blessed by God?
25:28The terrible, terrible state of affairs.
25:31I mean, if if a pack and and its colleagues have succeeded in exploiting a mentality like that and somebody as smart as Cruz, Alan Dershowitz.
25:44I'm not fond of quoting him, but Alan Dershowitz says Ted Cruz is the smartest student he ever taught in 40 years at Harvard Law School, whatever.
25:51If a pack can permeate a mentality of members of Congress like that.
25:57Hope is lost.
25:59Well, they're all operating judge on the theory that Charles and David mostly Charles co created some years ago quarter century plus ago.
26:09When they created their first wedge of allies to perpetrate their theories throughout the American government and people.
26:17And that was don't ever criticize each other.
26:20Praise each other to the high heavens.
26:22Even if you're disgusted by your fellow human being doing this or doing that, praise them because we must be in unity to take over this country.
26:31Wow.
26:33What will be the international reaction if Trump directs the dropping of 30,000 pound bombs on Tehran?
26:44First of all, I think the physics of it is such that they won't do anything except rattle some windows in the near vicinity.
26:53They will not affect the depth that is necessary to be affected in order to take out any other place with deep underground nuclear facilities.
27:04Just too deep.
27:05What it will do is exactly what we did when we attacked the Houthis.
27:11It will show how feckless we are and how our threats really can't be carried out.
27:16And that's a dangerous thing just as it was with the Houthis.
27:20Very dangerous to say you're going to do what Hegseth said he was going to do and what Trump said he was going to do and then be utterly incapable of doing it.
27:29Wow.
27:31China, Russia, Pakistan, how will they react?
27:37All good questions.
27:39Pakistan would react as the ISI would tell it to react, probably.
27:44Well, does that mean transfer offensive nuclear weapons to Tehran?
27:51Because they have offensive nuclear weapons.
27:54I don't think so.
27:55I think they have a contract with Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman.
27:59He gave him $20 billion for that.
28:01I think they would pass them to him.
28:03But I do think they would do some, as they have been doing in Kashmir, they might do some really nefarious things with their terrorist groups and disavow they had done it, of course.
28:14And Netanyahu's comments about there needing to be regime change in Islamabad, he just made an arch enemy of Pakistan.
28:24Wow.
28:25Is there any institution, establishment, moral principle that he is unwilling to transgress?
28:35None.
28:36None whatsoever.
28:37And Putin knows that.
28:39Xi Jinping knows that.
28:41And they know that this strategic purpose of what we're having Israel do right now, particularly with regard to this last country, Iran, in the new, the clean break strategy.
28:53Putin and Xi know that this is aimed at them.
28:57It's aimed at China in terms of its southern base road initiative, and it's aimed at Russia in terms of cementing its non-presence in Southwest Asia.
29:09Those are two very strategic objectives that the Empire has, the United States has, and Israel's carrying them out for us.
29:18Whether they're cognizant of it or not, I don't know.
29:21But that's what they're doing.
29:23Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, a pleasure, my dear friend.
29:26No matter how bad the news is or unpleasant it is to discuss, it's always a joy to be with you.
29:32I hope we can do it in person again as we did last year.
29:36But thank you very much for your time, dear Colonel.
29:39We'll look forward to seeing you next week.
29:41I'll tell you what you've done, Judge.
29:42You smoked out MSNBC, CNN, and today an invitation from the BBC's flagship program in London.
29:50Wow, meaning you turned them down for judging freedom.
29:56Next time I see you, you're going to get a lot of kisses on that head of yours.
30:02You're more powerful than any of those people.
30:07Thank you, Colonel.
30:08All the best to you, my friend.
30:10Take care.
30:11Bye-bye.
30:12A brilliant guy and a character.
30:16Coming up tomorrow, Friday, the end of the week, the end of the day, 4 o'clock, the Intelligence Community Roundtable.
30:23And who are we missing this week?
30:25At 4.30 tomorrow, Professor John Meersheimer on all of this.
30:32Judge Napolitano for Judging Freedom.