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  • 6/17/2025
At today's Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) discussed the problem of scammers targeting older Americans.
Transcript
00:00White House.
00:01Thanks very much.
00:03I just want to flag for any Rhode Islanders who might be listening
00:09that if you're getting texts and emails that say you owe a toll
00:16and that proceedings are about to begin against you
00:21because of unpaid tolls or tickets,
00:25consider that to be a scam.
00:28And be very wary about clicking onto any link in that text
00:37that purports to be the way that you're going to pay off the unpaid toll or ticket
00:46and know instead that this is almost certainly a scam.
00:53The Department of Motor Vehicles and the Rhode Island Bridge and Turnpike Authority
00:57have both put out notices that these are not their way of dealing with customers
01:07who owe them money, and so when you see that, be very, very wary.
01:13That's my public service announcement for the day.
01:17I'd also like to put into the record the story of a Rhode Islander
01:23who was the victim of a romance scam and lost a great deal of money to a scammer
01:34who was sentenced to serve 121 months in prison by then-Chief Judge John Jack McConnell in Rhode Island.
01:50It is hard to overstate what happens to an elderly person who is both betrayed by someone who she thought was a romantic interest,
02:08who she thought was a friend, who she had come to count on, and then also to come back from that
02:16and find that her finances are in complete disarray and she's going to have to really rethink what the rest of her life looks like,
02:24that it's going to change her entire financial position going forward.
02:28One of the things that helps the fraudsters is anonymity that is very often provided by VPNs or by fake names.
02:49Very often the big platforms have a role in all of this, and we don't have a whole lot of time right now,
02:58but I really would be grateful if each of you, if you have thoughts about what the best things that we could do
03:07to penetrate the anonymity where it is a part of the scam
03:15and to figure out how to hold the platforms more accountable for supporting these frauds,
03:25I would be grateful because I think, you know, this has been a good hearing, Mr. Chairman.
03:30It's been very bipartisan.
03:33Everybody has constituents who are being scammed by these predatory folks.
03:38Some of them are from overseas.
03:39When I was a U.S. attorney, we had what they called 419, I think they called them scams,
03:44where like a Nigerian minister suddenly discovered that he had $4 million squirreled away
03:50and just needed to get your account information so he could store it in your account
03:54and you'd get $2 million of the $4 million and he'd get the $2 million.
03:58It was going to be a great deal.
03:59All you had to do was give him all your bank information.
04:01Yeah, how did that work out?
04:02So the more we can drill into who is really behind these things,
04:09the trick with those is trying to figure out who was at the other end of it.
04:12And the Secret Service did a pretty good job of investigating,
04:15but now anonymity is even worse.
04:19And therefore these frauds are practiced more prevalently and with less accountability.
04:27So your thoughts on dealing with the anonymity problem
04:29and how we can break through that to find the perpetrators more regularly,
04:32I'd really be grateful for.
04:34And thank you for the hearing, Chairman.
04:36Question for the record, we'll call that.
04:43Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
04:44Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

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