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#Relative Secrets.S01E03

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00:00Hi, I'm Andrea Bass, and I am Harry Selman's daughter.
00:21Harry Selman was my daddy, and he was the fighter of all bad things.
00:27He was the backbone of our family.
00:31He was everything.
00:34We are trying to solve the mystery of who my father's birth father was.
00:40I think I know who it was, but maybe not.
00:44From the very first time that I'd heard he was adopted, it struck a chord in me.
00:51Finding out who my dad's father was will help me put to bed the questions that my dad
00:57had asked his whole entire life.
01:03Every family has a secret, even my own.
01:06I'm Jane Seymour, and my experience proves that solving a mystery, however painful, can
01:11bring a family closer together.
01:13We've assembled a team of genealogists, historians, and researchers, led by archaeologist Natasha
01:20Bilson to do just that.
01:23Solve the puzzles of the past to heal the families of the present.
01:27Knowing who you are is a fundamental part of being a human.
01:48For Harry Selman, where he came from was a mystery he lived with his whole life.
01:59He kept silent about the weight of it until his deathbed.
02:04Even now, the truth remains unknown.
02:07The questions linger about why the answer was kept hidden.
02:16So this is a story with a lot of twists and turns and a lot of tragedy.
02:21We start with Harry Selman, born in Dallas, Texas, during the Depression.
02:27And we know that Harry had no birth certificate.
02:30So when his mother died, the secret of who, his biological father, also died with her.
02:36Mm.
02:37That's incredibly tragic.
02:38Mm.
02:39But Harry was taken in by his family, wasn't he?
02:42By his half-sister?
02:45She adopted him shortly after she marries a man called Cy Selman.
02:52So this mysterious Cy Selman married Harry's sister and adopted him?
02:57All the while, there were rumors that Cy Selman was Harry's biological father.
03:02Ah.
03:04But if Cy was truly Harry's father, why keep it a secret?
03:09Well, that's something Andy wants to know.
03:11Hm.
03:14I think what's important about stories like this, especially this one, is the pain that's
03:18there from not knowing the facts.
03:21You know, when you have secrets like that, they just permeate families.
03:24They permeate, you know, the next generation, the next generation.
03:27And then, all of a sudden, like in, you know, in my family, we found out something about past
03:33generations with family feuds that no one can even remember why.
03:37You just, you can't have that kind of secret stuff hanging over you, because it does go down
03:42generation to generation.
03:44And it's not just Harry who lived with this.
03:47It was passed down to his children, so Andy is now searching.
03:50And that is also passed down to her kids, the search to wanting to know their family lineage.
03:55Well, there's definitely a mystery here, but I can't help but feeling that there's more
04:00to this story that the Selman family isn't telling us.
04:04I really think that we can answer some of their questions.
04:08But the first steps to do that is for me to head over to Texas to get a bit more information.
04:12Have you ever been there?
04:13No.
04:14Oh, there's a first time for everything.
04:15I'm excited.
04:16For Andy and her family, home is Forney, Texas, a small town on the outskirts of Dallas, the
04:32city where Harry was born.
04:36Texas is known for its larger-than-life reputation.
04:40Once the heart of the Wild West, the legends of the cowboys and outlaws who once roamed the
04:46land still live on today.
04:49It's a place that's very sure its identity and takes a lot of pride in it.
04:59From what we've uncovered, that Texas spirit runs deep in the Selman family.
05:04But despite their strong roots, some parts of their story remain hidden.
05:11After years of genealogical research and DNA testing, the full truth remains just out of
05:17reach.
05:19As we step into the Selman family's past, we're ready to unravel the truths that have been hidden
05:25for far too long.
05:32Hello.
05:33Hi.
05:34Lovely to meet you.
05:35Nice to meet you.
05:36Nice to meet you, Dr. Andy Bass.
05:37Lovely to meet you.
05:38So, welcome to my home.
05:39This is my husband, Mike.
05:40Hello.
05:41Very nice to meet you.
05:42Lovely to meet you as well.
05:43Nice to meet you.
05:44This is already Tripp.
05:45Tripp, Tripp.
05:46That's our youngest.
05:47And then our oldest.
05:48Trevor.
05:49These are my pride and joy.
05:52I wanted to tell you a little bit about my dad.
05:56Mm-hmm.
05:57Basically, everything I know about life, I learned from him.
06:00Mm-hmm.
06:01He believed in working hard.
06:02Mm-hmm.
06:03He believed in standing up for people who didn't have a voice.
06:07Really tough, quiet old guy.
06:10Very, like, old-school machismo type of, like, Clint Eastwood type, I would say.
06:16Mm-hmm.
06:17Very mysterious.
06:18That's a good analogy for him.
06:19Very mysterious.
06:20Didn't really say much.
06:21He didn't let you know he was hurting.
06:23Ever.
06:24Man's man.
06:25A lot of grunting.
06:26Yeah, a lot of grunting.
06:28Cussing.
06:29Yeah.
06:30He'd watch maybe two or three minutes of the football game, and he'd start cussing,
06:34and I'm going to the shop.
06:35God doesn't want me to watch this today.
06:37And off to the shop, he'd go to work on a car.
06:40We were starting to piece together Harry's story, but to solve the mystery of his paternity,
06:51we needed to investigate the world that shaped him.
06:55Harry grew up in Dallas in the 1930s, long after the Wild West had faded, though remnants
07:01of that era still lingered across the city.
07:05Reminders of a time when cowboys and gunslingers ruled the streets, visiting saloons and brothels
07:11along their way.
07:14Harry would have grown up hearing tales of gunfights, high-stakes gambling, and shootouts
07:19by infamous outlaws, especially the one who shared his family name.
07:24John Selman was an outlaw.
07:27I'd always heard that we are directly related to them, maybe by, like, maybe an uncle or
07:34a cousin.
07:35Dallas has a very nefarious history.
07:39It was the Wild Wild West.
07:42From Doc Holliday, to John Wesley Hardin, to the Bass Brothers, to the Selman gang, I know
07:49that Billy the Kid came through here.
07:59The mystique of the outlaw runs deep in the Selman's family history.
08:04But to fully understand Harry's childhood and the curious circumstances surrounding his
08:09adoption, we needed to dig deeper.
08:12Oh, yeah.
08:14So, this is baby Harry.
08:21My father was adopted, and he didn't know who his birth father was.
08:28He was essentially an orphan.
08:31I've heard rumors, and also my dad never really said it.
08:37I know he knew, but his mother worked in a brothel around the time he was born.
08:46So, he was always worried that he was maybe part of a transaction, a business transaction.
08:52Wow.
08:54Discovering that Harry's birth mother, Radha, worked in a brothel was unexpected.
09:01However, the revelation did fit into the Wild West way of life.
09:07Our genealogists dove into the few available records to piece together Radha's story.
09:13Radha had seven children.
09:16Six were born during her two marriages.
09:19Her youngest was Harry, born in 1935.
09:23Radha tragically died a year later.
09:26After her death, her eldest daughter, Mary Evelyn, took Harry in.
09:31Not long after, she married Cy, and together they adopted Harry, making him legally a Selman.
09:38But the question of Harry's biological father remained hidden and unspoken for many years,
09:46until Aunt Hazel reopened the case.
09:49So, who was Aunt Hazel?
09:54That was Cy's sister.
09:58She was a storyteller.
10:00I loved this, just sit and listen to her tell tales.
10:03Maybe they were a little bit tall, who knows.
10:06I was about 17 years old, and we just struck up a friendship and a common love for family history.
10:13And I asked her about my dad, and she said, well, you know, Cy really is Harry's father.
10:22So, she planted that seed, but no one really ever paid attention to her like that,
10:29because she liked to tell a lot of stories.
10:32Just comparing, I just wonder if my dad ever had an urge to just kind of see something in a picture that said,
10:41oh, that's me.
10:43And not knowing who his father was, I just wonder what it was like not to be able to look at your dad and say,
10:50this is me.
10:51I wonder if he felt like he belonged.
10:56It really seems like your family secret has been weighing on you as well,
11:00considering it was your father's wish on his deathbed.
11:03Oh, yeah.
11:04It was like a failure.
11:05I took it as failure that he wasn't able to know before he died.
11:14I think that that's what he wanted to be more than anything, was a real salmon.
11:18Before Harry passed away in 2019, Andy managed to track down his adoption records.
11:33However, the original birth certificate and any clue to his biological father's identity remained out of reach.
11:40Our investigation confirmed a startling fact.
11:44The state of Texas had no record of Harry's birth.
11:48Without a birth certificate, our next step was DNA testing.
11:52But without a sample from Harry himself, we turned to Andy, hoping her DNA might finally unlock the truth.
11:59Natasha, how are things going so far in Forney?
12:04Oh, it's going really well. The family are so lovely.
12:08Well, I have some news to share with you.
12:11Our experts have started the examination of Andy's DNA.
12:15And the first thing we learned is that Radha is definitely Harry's biological mother.
12:21That's one thing we can't say for sure.
12:23Brilliant.
12:24But unfortunately, there were no immediate matches in the DNA databases to show who Harry's birth father might be.
12:32And there were no DNA matches that showed a close connection to the Selman family line.
12:38So we still don't know if Sai is actually Harry's birth father.
12:44Hmm.
12:45So we're going to have to go back into history to trace the clues.
12:49This is the kind of mystery that gets me excited to investigate.
12:52It's not a straightforward DNA case.
12:55What we need to do is find a living descendant that we can confirm is a biological member of the Selman line.
13:01We'll have to start with the genealogical records.
13:04We can make a comprehensive family tree of the Selman line.
13:07That means if we find someone related to Sai by blood, we can solve this mystery?
13:13Exactly.
13:14The first thing I need to do is reach out to our genealogists to get started.
13:19We began mapping out the Selman family tree, searching for a living descendant whose sample could be used for DNA triangulation.
13:30Our genealogists left no stone unturned, sifting through census records, land deeds, and church archives.
13:38This extensive search revealed an intriguing chapter of Selman family history, adding a surprising twist to our investigation.
13:47Do you have any ideas of how the Selmans came to the US?
13:51From what I read, one of the Selmans came over as maybe like what we'd consider an indentured servant?
14:01Do you have an idea of their name or when this was?
14:05No.
14:06So you'd be happy to know we have a name.
14:09Oh.
14:10There was a John Selman who came to the US in 1658.
14:15Okay.
14:16Who is your eighth great-grandfather.
14:21Yeah, we're going back eight generations.
14:23Oh, so he predates everything.
14:26We have a record that he did come over as an indentured servant.
14:31Indentured servants were individuals who received passage from the British Isles to the New World in exchange for several years of unpaid labor.
14:42It's estimated that up to 500,000 indentured servants arrived in the United States during the 16th and 17th centuries.
14:51Many of these were children who endured hard labor, poor living conditions, and the constant threat of disease in an unfamiliar land.
15:02We actually think that John Selman was around 12 to 13 years old.
15:06Wow.
15:07It kind of makes us think that either he was an orphan or he maybe had some sort of petty crime and involuntary had to come to the US under indentured servitude, which was very common for children especially.
15:21So we've been able to kind of narrow down where your ancestor John Selman came from to a place called Ludlow in Shropshire, which is in West England.
15:30We have an example here of what a contract would have looked like from the 17th century.
15:35Unbelievable.
15:36So you can imagine your great grandfather.
15:39Twelve or thirteen.
15:40Eight generations back.
15:41Probably couldn't even do a signature.
15:43He had no clue.
15:45No clue.
15:46Wow.
15:47Brave little boy.
15:49He could have ran away.
15:50He could have done a lot of things.
15:53What we see is that John Selman worked as a tobacco planter.
16:00John actually marries the daughter of his master.
16:05Oh.
16:06That's unbelievable.
16:10John Selman is given 50 acres of land once his indentured servitude ends.
16:16He ends up in Maryland and he expands it into 900 acres.
16:23Oh.
16:24And not only does he do that, we see that he is somewhat one of the forefathers of what you know as Maryland today.
16:32I had no idea.
16:33As Maryland today?
16:34As Maryland today.
16:35Unbelievable.
16:36Whatever he did, he saw opportunities and he was fortunate enough to actually be able to become a success story like a rags to riches.
16:44Wow.
16:45Wow.
16:46So we were a very old name.
16:48Mm-hmm.
16:49I didn't know that they did that.
16:51Mm-hmm.
16:52It's pretty cool.
16:53We discovered a long-forgotten chapter of the Selman family's past.
16:59But if Harry isn't a Selman by birth, what does that mean for the stories we're uncovering?
17:05Will these discoveries still hold weight?
17:08Or will Andy's search lead to other unexpected revelations?
17:12To find more answers, Andy's bringing Natasha to meet Jessica, her niece and Harry's granddaughter.
17:19As a nurse, Jessica cared for Harry in his final days and heard some of his last words.
17:26Perhaps in those words lies a confession or a thread we could pull out to unravel this mystery.
17:33Hello.
17:34Hello.
17:35Guess who's here?
17:36Hi.
17:37This is Natasha.
17:38Hi.
17:39So nice to meet you.
17:40Good to meet you.
17:41This is my niece, Jessica.
17:42Welcome.
17:44Such a beautiful home you have.
17:45Thank you so much.
17:46This is Rebel.
17:47He is nine.
17:48You're so gorgeous.
17:49Look at your eyes.
17:50He was well named because he is my troublemaker.
17:51Thought he was going to prepare me for motherhood and I was correct.
17:52Yes.
17:53Andy and I were kind of talking about your grandfather, Harry.
17:54And she mentioned that you were his main caregiver during his final moments.
18:00Yes.
18:01Did your papa, Harry, ever speak about not knowing his birth father?
18:02I mean, he didn't really talk to me a lot about his childhood.
18:03And that's just not something that we ever brought up.
18:04I mean, he didn't really talk to me a lot about his childhood and that's just not something
18:31that we ever brought up.
18:32Until he was in his last days in the hospital, it was something that was fresh on his mind.
18:41Even though, you know, this was his beginning, he was still thinking about it at his end.
18:52I think knowing this would have really put the bow on his life and made his life feel complete.
19:01Though Jessica could recall no deathbed confessions to help our search, it was clear how much Harry
19:10and his mystery had affected her.
19:11I spent a lot of time at Mimi and Pawpaw's house growing up.
19:19I went over there every weekend as a kid.
19:20I might cry.
19:21Go ahead.
19:22I miss them.
19:24Go ahead.
19:25I miss them.
19:31She got to see the best of them.
19:37She really had exactly the type of grandparents every little girl deserves.
19:46I mean, he always had like a soft spot for you.
19:52Yeah.
19:53And he was a pretty hard man.
19:55And he was trying to have a soft spot.
19:56I feel very honored to have that position.
20:02Andy, do you know much about your father Harry's mother?
20:07His birth mother, Radha, she was married twice.
20:10I know that Radha had a very hard life.
20:14I know that her second husband went to prison.
20:18I don't really know what for, but I know that he was there for about a year or two maybe.
20:25And during that time, my dad was born.
20:28Harry grew up during the Great Depression.
20:32Our investigation revealed that at the time of his birth, Radha likely lived and worked in Frogtown, a North Dallas neighborhood with a notorious past.
20:44Once known as the Reservation, Frogtown was a city-sanctioned red light district, a relic of the Wild West filled with brothels where Dallas men sought out working women.
20:57Although officially banned in 1913, many women defied the law and stayed in Frogtown.
21:04Stripped of the city's protection, they endured harsh conditions and faced constant danger.
21:10In such desperate times, prostitution became a means of survival.
21:16This is very interesting, and I can't believe that Papa was raised in this kind of lifestyle.
21:26And it's just shocking to me.
21:28You know, as a child, nobody ever talked to me about these things.
21:32I don't think they knew.
21:33Really?
21:34Yeah, I don't think...
21:35So this is new information?
21:36I think Daddy secretly knew because he had a chip on his shoulder a little bit.
21:41He didn't want to talk about it.
21:42He didn't want to talk about it.
21:44And I think it worried him.
21:47Hazel always maintained that Cy Selman wasn't just Daddy's adopted father, he was his father.
21:55I mean, she had told that many times.
21:58How would you feel if Aunt Hazel's stories were not truthful?
22:02I mean, maybe not everything she said was truthful.
22:05Or maybe she wanted him to have his rightful heritage.
22:09Maybe she believed that he had a God-given right to know where he came from.
22:15Yeah, I'd rather have the truth than a story that Hazel may have just made up for storytelling.
22:24If Cy is Harry's birth father, how do you think that happened?
22:29I think that Cy went and visited Rada, maybe, and...
22:34At the brothel?
22:35Yeah, to be blunt.
22:37Maybe Rada knew that she was dying.
22:41Did they have a relationship before?
22:43And Cy stepped in and married Evelyn so that they could raise his child together.
22:50He called her mother, Evelyn.
22:52He said, I know mother knew about Rada, but she would never tell me.
22:57So she took it to her grave?
22:59She literally took it.
23:00Papa's secret, she took it to her grave.
23:02Or maybe she really didn't know.
23:04There could be that, too.
23:06I mean, why do people keep secrets?
23:09Secrets, they, I mean, that's where shame hides.
23:17My feelings about Papa being from prostitution are mixed.
23:23I'm not, like, ashamed.
23:26Maybe a little embarrassed, but I'm sure he was, too.
23:32Do you ever think, looking back, especially on Harry's upbringing, on the women's, the choices they made, yes, they were, you know, his mother was a sex worker, but was that not maybe as a form of survival?
23:45I've never thought of it from that perspective, and you're right.
23:48I mean, it was at the end of the depression and not having a male figure to make your money.
23:55I mean, I know back in those days it wasn't easy for women to find work.
24:00Really, did she have any other option other than to do brothel work?
24:06You'd do what you had to do.
24:07Radha's past was shrouded in secrecy, hidden by generations who felt ashamed.
24:20But the choices she made were crucial for her family's survival.
24:24While there was almost no paper trail of Radha's life, we found one testament to her death, her grave site.
24:34By poring over Dallas Cemetery maps and records, we traced Radha's final resting place to Oakland Cemetery, where Andy and Jessica will make their first visit.
24:46It's a long shot, but grave markers can sometimes offer hidden clues.
24:51Whether through what's written on the stone, or who's buried nearby, there might be a new lead on uncovering who Harry's father really was.
25:03I've wanted to come out here for so long.
25:06I'd always ask my dad if we could go, and he's like, oh, you don't want to go over there.
25:10But I've always kind of like, oh, she's like stuck away in a hidden garden somewhere.
25:15Oh, here we are.
25:19Wow.
25:20Oh, wow.
25:22She was young.
25:23She was only 37.
25:26Hmm.
25:30Feel bad for her.
25:35What are your thoughts?
25:36I'm glad to know where it is, and, you know, I never knew her, but I want to know that she's here.
25:44And that I can pass that on.
25:47Mm-hmm.
25:48I mean, it really does kind of like...
25:50Bring it home.
25:51Mm-hmm.
25:52Mm-hmm.
25:53Mm-hmm.
25:54It's something I've seen in pictures, but now it's real.
25:56She's real.
25:57Not just the story.
25:58Not just the story.
25:59She's...
26:00She's real.
26:09Uncovering Radha's history sheds light on why Harry's paternity might have been kept hidden.
26:14Though the visit to the grave site was a step forward for the family, it didn't yield any new clues.
26:24Our mystery still remains unsolved.
26:27Natasha, how have things been going since the last time we talked?
26:38Oh, it's been going so well.
26:40We actually visited the cemetery site of Radha with the family, and it was such a beautiful moment.
26:47What about the search for the Selman DNA?
26:50So I've heard from our genealogists, and they've created a comprehensive family tree for the Selman line,
26:56which means we've been able to trace the lines of all of Sai's siblings to look for living descendants.
27:01So those samples would be the ones to prove if Sai is Harry's father?
27:06Yes.
27:07And did we find any?
27:08We actually found 30 living descendants.
27:10We've reached out to all of them to ask if they would be willing to share a DNA sample with us, too.
27:16Wait, we've asked for their DNA to solve a mystery for a complete stranger?
27:20We did.
27:22And did any of them say yes?
27:23Well, a lot of people we reached out to did not respond.
27:26As you can imagine, it's pretty random.
27:29But we still have one more phone call to make.
27:32So we might finally know for sure if Harry is a Selman.
27:38Fingers crossed.
27:43After reaching out to 30 of Sai's distant cousins, we secured not just one, but two potential samples of Selman DNA.
27:52As we waited for the test results, our focus shifted to Andy's grandfather, Sai.
27:57Could his past hold even more secrets?
28:01This is Granddaddy.
28:03And he bought all the granddaughter's ponies.
28:10What I remember of him, he was quiet, he was tall, he dressed very well.
28:18He either had a cowboy hat or a fedora.
28:24A fedora.
28:25A fedora.
28:26Uh-huh.
28:27But he always wore boots and he always wore a button-up.
28:31What type of work did Sai do?
28:33Well, from what I understand, he was a painter, contractor.
28:39I think he might have been a moneylender.
28:42I don't know.
28:43I mean, I know that he used to pick up envelopes from people.
28:47And he might have had a card game.
28:51I'm not sure.
28:52Yeah, that's kind of a mystery, too.
28:54Like, who was he really?
28:56I don't know.
29:01I imagined him as just like maybe a rancher or someone.
29:07Almost romantic, kind of.
29:09But quiet.
29:10Our search into Sai turned up very few records.
29:22Confirming Andy's suspicion, Sai was always careful to keep his cards close to his chest.
29:30Shaped by an era of outlaws and the untamed frontier, Sai witnessed Texas move beyond its Wild West roots.
29:38Perhaps he concealed Harry's paternity to protect him from a past that no longer fit the changing times.
29:49Although Sai passed away long before Andy's sons, Tripp and Trevor, were born, the family legends from his time still left a mark on their life.
30:03I feel like I'm American now.
30:05You basically are.
30:06Yeah.
30:07I just need to buy a gun.
30:09I'll have a toy one.
30:10I'll be fine.
30:12In terms of being from Texas, I think of the Wild West.
30:16So for you growing up here, having that history, what does that mean to you?
30:21Honestly, a great deal.
30:22You know, Texas is one of the freest places, you know, in America.
30:27So being able to own guns and tigers if you want, whatever, be able to do whatever you want on your land, you know, I think it means a great deal, not just to me, but probably you could ask anybody in this diner and they'd tell you that too.
30:41So what do you think about the story about John Henry Salmon, the outlaw, and being connected to the family?
30:49I've always been really interested in that.
30:52I think it's just a really cool piece of family lore.
30:55I don't think very many people have stories like that in their families.
30:58So it's definitely fun to say I'm an outlaw by blood.
31:04It doesn't really surprise me if you've ever been to a Christmas Eve or Christmas and you see how big and loud our families can be and wild they can be.
31:14Then you're kind of like, yeah, there's no surprise here that a couple of dudes were gunslingers and outlaws back in the day.
31:21John Salmon was a notorious name in the Wild West, known for his double life as both an outlaw and a lawman.
31:35Salmon gained infamy with the brutal killing of fellow gunfighter John Wesley Harding, whom he shot in the back of the head in a Texas saloon in 1895.
31:45The clash between Salmon and Harding was legendary across the West, though Salmon's true motivation for the deadly act remains disputed.
31:56With Harding's violent reputation and his claims of killing at least 40 men, some believe that eliminating Harding was Salmon's way of taking the law into his own hands.
32:07Now, there's definitely a running theme when we've ever talked about the Salmon's and that's outlaws. Do you believe those stories?
32:18I believe as a child, I believed them wholeheartedly.
32:22I think it just kind of adds to the mystique and the lore of everything as part of your story.
32:28It's important to us because it's what we were told. It was our history.
32:32I guess it's a little pride involved because there are people that are known and people know their names, so yeah.
32:39I mean, in Texas, it's a big deal.
32:42Well, I was intrigued by that story, so we decided to kind of dig deeper into it and see if we could find a connection.
32:51We had to go back six generations and forward three generations to try and work out if there was a connection.
32:59And I'm excited to say there is an outlaw in your family.
33:05I knew it.
33:07Wow.
33:09We were able to find a Benjamin Salmon and he had two sons.
33:14And from there we have John Henry Salmon, the outlaw.
33:19Wow. That's cool.
33:21Wow.
33:22That would make you, Andy, with your adopted family line, John Henry Salmon's third cousin four times removed.
33:31There you go. There was the connection.
33:34So how does it feel to have an infamous outlaw in your family?
33:38I like the fact that we are connected to Texas history.
33:44So it just, it makes me happy.
33:48So cool. Well, that's me.
33:49So cool.
33:57Our team had confirmed the truth about another piece of the Salmon lore, proving that some of the stories Andy and her family have been told are in fact true.
34:05But the search isn't over yet.
34:09With this new truth unveiled, will the final revelation about Harry's paternity match the long-held rumours?
34:17Or could it overturn the story entirely?
34:21Hi, Natasha.
34:23Hey, Jane.
34:24Hi.
34:25Well, it's great to see you.
34:27So with some genealogical research, I can't believe we've gone from very little evidence to a full family tree of the Salmon line.
34:36And even convinced a stranger to give us their DNA along the way.
34:39I don't know if I would do that.
34:41I just think it's so amazing that one tiny clue can answer a question like this and so fundamentally change people's lives.
34:51And guess what?
34:53I have good news for you.
34:55Are the results finally in?
34:57They are.
34:59But like everything so far, it's not, not straightforward.
35:05You see, we tested our volunteers' DNA, and we can confirm that he is related to Si Salmon.
35:12But we're comparing his DNA sample to Andy's.
35:15And if Andy is the Salmon by blood, that's a pretty distant familial relationship.
35:20Right, yes.
35:22I mean, the way that these cases are solved is a little bit different.
35:26So we're going to be having to compare something called Centimorgans.
35:30It's basically where two DNA samples are shared and it's like a process of DNA triangulation.
35:37So I'm going to have to have a look at the results in more detail to see if it's a match.
35:42So we're not giving up.
35:43It sounds like we're getting just a little bit closer.
35:45It's a little bit closer.
35:46I have faith.
35:55DNA triangulation holds the key to finally solving this mystery.
36:00Our DNA experts need to analyze the Centimorgans, the specific DNA segments shared between the various samples.
36:10If these segments align, it will reveal whether Si is actually Harry's biological father.
36:16Now that the DNA analysis is complete, Andy has gathered the entire Salmon family to hear the truth together.
36:34After years of hidden secrets, the big question remains, will these revelations confirm that their storied family legacy marked by an outlaw past is truly written in their DNA?
36:49Or is it like so many other stories of the Wild West, simply a tall tale on the verge of unraveling?
36:56Hello, hello, hello.
36:58Hello, hello.
36:59Hello, hello.
37:00Hi.
37:01Hi.
37:02Hi.
37:03Hi.
37:04Hi.
37:05It's a big moment.
37:06Come on.
37:07Mike, you ready?
37:08Where's Trippy?
37:09Where's Trevor?
37:10Come on, guys.
37:11Mike, you sit there.
37:13Johnny, you sit there.
37:14John, sit there.
37:15Trevor, Tripp, come on in.
37:17Sit down.
37:24How are you feeling?
37:26I'm excited.
37:27I'm still just, like, ready to know.
37:32I know it's been a long journey to get here.
37:34So I want to share some of the processes, because we don't have Harry Salmon's DNA.
37:39But as you know, Andy, we did take your DNA.
37:43Unfortunately, we were not able to find any immediate matches to reveal Harry's biological father.
37:52However, our experts were able to create an in-depth family tree of the candidates of what we believed to be Harry's potential father.
38:00Mm-hmm.
38:01But we still needed DNA to prove what our experts believed.
38:07We spent weeks reaching out to potential family members throughout the U.S. to give their DNA to help solve your mystery.
38:17Mm-hmm.
38:18Now, one of those was a match to Harry's DNA.
38:23Wow.
38:24So that told us that Harry was a Salmon and that Cy was his biological father.
38:32I knew it.
38:33Wow.
38:34That was right.
38:35Yeah.
38:36Wow.
38:37I knew it.
38:38Yeah.
38:39Wow.
38:40That's good.
38:41Yeah.
38:42We're Salmons.
38:43I'm just happy for him.
38:44Mm-hmm.
38:45Because he was so proud of the family name.
38:57I wish he had known, but I'm so happy for him.
38:59He knows.
39:00He knows.
39:01He knows.
39:02I just don't know why Cy didn't tell him.
39:07Maybe that's not for me to know.
39:08It was not your, as your daddy would say.
39:10Maybe that's not my business.
39:11That's not your business.
39:12Your business was to find this out, and you accomplished it.
39:15Mm-hmm.
39:16Yeah.
39:18Good job.
39:19Thank you so much.
39:20This is cool.
39:21God love Hazel.
39:22I'm so happy for him.
39:24She's the truth, Tyler.
39:27So you guys have a nefarious legacy to be both proud of, and let's not add to it.
39:33Let's let the outlaw part, let's let that in the past.
39:37Let that go down.
39:38But, you know, not only was it the outlaw part, but we're farmers, we're statesmen,
39:43we're business owners.
39:45The indentative servant is the part that gets me.
39:48We're resilient.
39:49That's the word.
39:50That comes from that.
39:51The family trait, that has definitely been passed down.
39:53Resilience.
39:54Absolutely.
39:55Yeah.
39:56I think all of us have a little bit of resilience.
39:59Thank you so much.
40:11Andy, it's wonderful to see you.
40:13Hi.
40:14How are you?
40:15Hi, Natasha.
40:16I am just so happy.
40:17We've solved the mystery of who your father's birth family is.
40:21So you are a Selman by blood after all.
40:24I had a feeling I was.
40:28You were surprised by the revelation at first.
40:30I was.
40:31I was.
40:32I was.
40:33It just opened a lot more like, how?
40:36How could you keep a secret?
40:38I mean, so it just opened a whole nother book of questions.
40:45Andy, has anything changed for you since you learned the truth about Harry and Sai?
40:50I feel a little bit more grounded, you know, I want to know more about the Selmans.
40:57At first I'd see a name and I would like, well, maybe, you know, maybe they're my blood.
41:02But now that I know that this is indeed where I come from, I am who I always was, but now I actually have a lineage that I can put my thumb on and say, this is my story.
41:19Do you feel now you're able to completely define your identity?
41:24I think our identity is always evolving, but I think that knowing that I am a Selman, that we have such a long, interesting history.
41:35Overall, I think that just finding out everything that we found out, it really brought us closer as a family.
41:43That's wonderful to hear. That's what this is all about, really, unearthing the secrets, finding the proof, and then just seeing how it impacts the family.
41:54And, you know, for all of us, it's a wonderful thing to watch because it reminds us how important it is to find out about the genealogy and to process it and realize how we can all move on in life.
42:13We'll see you next time.