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00:00I want to just start with the spread, the nine and a half number.
00:06Did you, do you think this gets to double digits, Tom?
00:09Do you think that it would go potentially to eight and a half?
00:12Do you think it's double digits?
00:13I think if, I think when people look at Thunder losses,
00:20games following Thunder losses, especially when they're at home,
00:23and combine that with how horribly they shot,
00:28especially from deep, you'd be like, I could see me pushing at 10 points.
00:33And that's just, and this is also a product of, we have two full days off.
00:36If the game was Sunday night, eh, maybe I could talk myself,
00:40you know, probably stay nine, maybe could move back to nine.
00:42You know, we did see that the Pacers have really good defense, you know, at times.
00:47But the fact that we have to wait all the way until Monday night,
00:50it moving to 10 does not surprise, or would not surprise me.
00:52So, the interesting thing is, we talked about this a lot last week on the show,
01:01how in every round, OKC has won a game by 30 or more, every single round.
01:06In game one, they lost.
01:12But it profiled like their usual 30-point victory because of the turnovers.
01:18I know it's impossible to believe that what should have been the 30-point victory
01:23is a game they lost, but it's what made the series so fascinating right off the bat.
01:26I just put it to you like this.
01:29There's three potential games left.
01:31Does OKC win a game by 20 or more in this series?
01:41No.
01:42I don't know, fellas.
01:44It's who they are.
01:45I know, but I think what you'll have is, I think you may have got the outlier really bad,
01:51not protect the ball at Indiana Pacers game in game one.
01:54So, I was looking into some Halliburton stuff, five turnovers last night.
02:02He's had five turnovers twice in this series.
02:05He had one five-turnover game in the first three rounds.
02:10He's had four turnovers in three of the four games.
02:14He had three games with four more turnovers in the first three rounds.
02:18He averaged under two turnovers per game in the first three rounds.
02:22He's had at least three turnovers in every game in this series.
02:28Now that we're four games in, is it just safe to say Tyrese is going to turn it over three,
02:34four times every game?
02:35Or is that one turnover game?
02:38And I know it doesn't sound like a lot, but it is.
02:40Is there a game where Tyrese can finish with zero or one turnovers against this defense?
02:44Probably not, but what's the question that we're asking?
02:49Will they win a game by 20-plus points?
02:51That's what your question is.
02:51Yeah, and I bring it up because Coach basically says,
02:54I don't know if they're going to be able to turn them over again at that rate,
02:56and I think it's a fair point.
02:57If they did that in game one and they couldn't win by 20-plus points with crazy turnovers,
03:04what is to suggest that they missed their chance at it?
03:06They had their shot at the apple to bite it, and they missed it.
03:11With all those turnovers, they couldn't win by 20 points.
03:12But I also think what's happening in this series is Indiana,
03:17I know this sounds crazy,
03:20I don't know if they want to really get into an athletic,
03:25like up and down, you just got to be doing it all the time now.
03:29I don't know if they want to get into that kind of like running up and down game
03:33because I don't know if it benefits them.
03:35It becomes more of a half-court game.
03:37Whereas the Knicks series, every time they got the ball,
03:39I mean, they literally were sending Obi Toppin at Paso Siakam
03:43and just flying them down the floor
03:45because Carl Anthony Towns couldn't get back on defense.
03:48It's a little bit different where it's a little bit more half-court basketball.
03:52So I think his turnovers, yes, could be up because of how he's being guarded,
03:58but I still think that they, Indiana, plays the game more close to the vest,
04:03and that's why I don't know if they can get a 20-point win.
04:05Thank you so much.
04:15Wow.