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00:00105, I want to bounce Detroit.
00:01Still back, they're popping R&B.
00:03It's your boy, Showtime, the czar.
00:04I have a couple of amazing guests in the studio with me today.
00:09Two of Detroit's most amazing actors, actresses, filmmakers.
00:14And I think I'll do a little bit of directing, if I'm not mistaken.
00:17I got a Makeeva All-Britain.
00:19And she brought hubby along with her, Mr. James Perkins.
00:21Welcome to the show.
00:22Yes, sir.
00:23What up, though?
00:23Thanks for having us.
00:24All right, so origin stories, got to know them.
00:26Let's start with that.
00:27How did y'all get into the acting?
00:29Was this always a dream of y'all's?
00:31Like, tell me a little bit about y'all origin story.
00:33Makeeva, we'll start with you.
00:34Me, personally, I never thought I'd do this in my life.
00:37Like, I've always been a character, like, just being me.
00:40But this was never something that I ever thought about doing.
00:43I just knew people who was doing movies, so I did an extra role.
00:46And then when people saw that I did that, they just started, like, booking me.
00:49So, you know, I started doing it, like, just seeing how it was.
00:52And then I just started loving it.
00:53So, at this point, it's like, I just love it.
00:56But originally, I never in my life thought that this is what I would be doing.
00:59What did you want to do originally?
01:01I just always been, like, a business owner.
01:03So, I just thought, like, I would just be an entrepreneur, you know, just business minded.
01:08Like, I still am because I'm a filmmaker as well.
01:11But I just always was, like, houses or, like, salons and stuff like that.
01:15Never really had, like, a real in-go.
01:18But, yeah.
01:20King James.
01:21Yes, sir.
01:21How did you get into acting, sir?
01:23I mean, my auntie practically begged me, man.
01:27Rest in peace, Melissa Talbot.
01:29She's been a super producer around this industry for a long time, man.
01:34Back when I was in high school, she just kept telling me, like, nephew, you always around.
01:38You always coming to the stage plays.
01:40Because stage plays was bigger, way bigger here than film.
01:44You know what I'm saying?
01:44So, I used to always support her productions on stage.
01:48And people used to ask, like, who is that?
01:50Tell them to come audition or something.
01:52I'm like, nah, man.
01:53I ain't trying to be the one forgetting lines on stage.
01:55Right, right.
01:55You know what I'm saying?
01:55So, nah, I eventually went once I heard it was a basketball movie needing some hoopers.
02:02And then that was in my comfort zone.
02:03Are you playing ball?
02:04Yeah, I hoop.
02:05Okay.
02:06I ain't hooped in a minute.
02:07I mean, I'm a guard.
02:08You know what I'm saying?
02:08But I ain't hooped in a minute.
02:10But once I seen that, though, and I'm able to display my talents on screen, that was kind of easy to just go, you know what I'm saying, to audition.
02:17I was still nervous to audition.
02:19But I'm like, I ain't got nothing to lose.
02:20Shoot, I'm here.
02:21Was you?
02:22So, that was your first role was playing basketball?
02:25Yeah.
02:25Okay, what about you?
02:26What was your first role?
02:28I don't really wish to speak on the first role.
02:30Oh, okay.
02:30All right.
02:30That's cool.
02:33That's cool.
02:34All right.
02:34So, talk about, I looked at your catalog.
02:39You do a lot of movies.
02:41Do a lot of stuff in, like, a year span.
02:43How much, like, how many movies or, like, projects do you think you do in a year?
02:47It depends.
02:49Like, when I first started, because, like, it's been three years for me now.
02:53That's it?
02:54Yeah.
02:55Damn.
02:56A lot of people don't think that, because, like...
02:59You got a lot of stuff for three years.
03:01Exactly.
03:01And they think I've been doing it for much longer, and I haven't.
03:03Like, when I wrote my first movie, I was only acting for, like, eight months at that time.
03:07So, I just started moving fast.
03:09But my first year, I was just taking a lot.
03:12I probably did, like, 15 projects, like, in a year.
03:15Wow.
03:15And now, it's kind of, like, different, because now I pay attention to quality.
03:20I pay attention to, like, everything.
03:22Like, if it's not something that fits my brand, I can't do it.
03:26So, I'm more so, like, turning down a lot of stuff now than just taking stuff, because
03:30at first, I was new.
03:31So, I'm just taking everything just to get my foot in the door.
03:34But now it's to the point where it's, like, it has to make sense for me and my brand, you
03:38know?
03:38Was there some roles you was like, this ain't it?
03:40I'm cool on this one?
03:42Honestly, now, I would say that.
03:44But at first, I was just, like, taking anything.
03:46You know what I'm saying?
03:47And people was kind of, like, typecasting me.
03:50Like, okay, I know she'll do this in this role.
03:52She'll do that.
03:53You know?
03:53So, I had to really start standing on business.
03:54Like, no.
03:55Like, I won't just do this.
03:56I won't just do that.
03:57Like, I'm here now.
03:58I'm doing this.
03:58I'm known for this.
04:00You know what I'm saying?
04:00So, it's like, no.
04:01So, now, more so, it's like, sometimes people will, like, rearrange their script for me.
04:06And I'm not difficult at all.
04:07But it's like, certain things, it's like, yeah, that's kind of too far for me.
04:10And if they really want me to, I'd be like, you know, we don't have to do this.
04:14Is there a role that you won't play?
04:15Or is there a role that you want to play that you haven't done yet?
04:17It's not a role that I would say I won't play, necessarily.
04:22I kind of want to play a stud.
04:25That's the most random.
04:27Okay.
04:27Elaborate on that one.
04:28Because why?
04:31That's crazy.
04:33All right, people say doctors.
04:34You know what I'm saying?
04:35The lawyer, she said a stud.
04:36She's funny, bro.
04:37Yeah, that's crazy.
04:38Have you played in the comedy?
04:39Not yet, but I played a stud.
04:40Okay, you should do that one, because a stud is wild.
04:42But go ahead.
04:43I just feel like I play so much, and I feel like I would just make, like, a good stud.
04:49Like, I feel like.
04:50Bro.
04:51That's funny, bro.
04:52Did you know this?
04:53Yeah.
04:54I'm the one.
04:54I wrote, I was writing a movie.
04:56Oh, you already thought about this.
04:57Yeah.
04:58That's crazy.
04:59Like, I feel like I would execute the stud, bro, because I always just play all the time.
05:04And I'm like, me acting like a guy, like, it would just be hilarious.
05:08That's it.
05:08Yeah.
05:09Now that you say it out loud, that's probably hilarious.
05:11What, like, is everybody, somebody that you, like, saw doing that, that you was like, yo,
05:15I could probably do that.
05:16No, I just be playing like that sometimes.
05:18Like, and I don't want to be a stud in real life.
05:20Please don't get it mixed up.
05:22Like, I love me, but I just play so much.
05:25Like, we had did a YouTube video, and I was acting like a guy at the gym.
05:27I be messing with him sometimes to get on his nerves, you know what I'm saying?
05:30Acting like I'm a dude, just pissing him off sometimes.
05:32Right.
05:33But I think it's really funny when I do it.
05:34Like, I'm just hilarious.
05:35And I'm like, I could be, like, a stud in a movie.
05:38Is there a movie role that you want to play that you haven't played yet?
05:41That I want to play?
05:42Yeah.
05:47I don't know, man.
05:49Want to play?
05:50I've seen you play a cop.
05:53Probably like a young pastor or something, man.
05:57A who?
05:57A young pastor, a preacher or something.
05:59Okay, that's different.
06:01Yeah, I feel like I could take it there.
06:02That's totally different from my personality, and I feel like, you know,
06:06that'll, like, show range.
06:08Right, okay.
06:09Yeah, yeah.
06:10Let's talk about y'all characters on the Dirty D.
06:11Terrence and Kyra.
06:13Is it Kyra?
06:14Yeah, yeah.
06:14Kyra.
06:15All right, without giving away too much,
06:17because some people may not have seen it yet,
06:18talk a little bit about y'all characters on the show.
06:22So I'm basically, like, I'm going through a lot.
06:26Like, we are in a relationship, of course, in the show.
06:29He's basically waiting on a promotion to make more money,
06:32but it's to a point where we come into a downfall.
06:34Like, we don't have this, we don't have that.
06:36So, you know, what are we going to do?
06:38So I'm trying to, I'm going to school, not working.
06:41So I'm trying to find a way to make extra money.
06:43He don't really like what I'm doing to make the money,
06:45and it just caused, like, a lot of extra crap.
06:50And you play a cop on the Dirty D.
06:51Yeah, I play a cop.
06:52A young cop coming out of the academy, correct?
06:54Yeah, yeah, yeah, sir.
06:56But, you know, I feel like, you know, that was so, like, long ago, you know.
07:00Like, that was, what, season one and two?
07:01Yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:02Yeah, we not in it no more.
07:03We not in the show no more.
07:04Yeah, yeah, no, I know that.
07:05I'm just, I'm just people, people that hadn't seen it.
07:08Yeah, yeah, I just wanted to.
07:09No, that was fun, man.
07:10That was a fun role.
07:11It was very exciting.
07:13We woke up for that, you know what I'm saying?
07:15How did y'all get the roles?
07:17I was called by the producer of the show.
07:23She called me and was like, I got this role for you.
07:25And then I just read it, and yeah, she was like, yep, green light.
07:29And me, after I did the first role I did, which was an extra role,
07:33I went to a casting call.
07:34That was actually my first role that was like an actual set.
07:37Like, that was like my first actual movie, for real.
07:39Like, my first thing I ever did, for real.
07:41A lot of people don't know.
07:42Like, I did this other film I wish not to speak on.
07:46But, like, it was like a, okay, everybody call me when y'all got a free day.
07:51Let's go film.
07:52Then it might be like three weeks later.
07:53Hey, y'all free on this day?
07:54Can we film on this day?
07:55It was like so, like, unorganized.
07:57All over the place.
07:57All over the place.
07:59It wasn't, it was like, it was, it wasn't it.
08:02So, this was like the first thing that I actually did.
08:05You know, that was like, okay, I'm actually acting.
08:07I'm actually, because the first, the, actually the first one I said was all over the place.
08:10It was kind of like a practice thing for me.
08:12And honestly, the Dirty D was too, because I never really did this before.
08:16So, a lot of people don't know, but that was kind of like one of my first things I ever did.
08:19Yeah.
08:19Yeah, she said she actually killed that audition, too.
08:22Oh, yeah.
08:23Oh, they made y'all audition for this?
08:24I did.
08:24Oh, you did.
08:25I went to a casting call.
08:26Somebody, it was crazy, because last minute, this woman I know, her name is Q, actually.
08:30Shout out to Q.
08:31She was like, oh, girl, you know, it's a casting call for the series they doing and whatever.
08:35And when she told me, it was like 45 minutes before the ending of it.
08:38So, I just ran up there real quick.
08:41And when I went up there, you know, they gave me the paper with all the different, like,
08:45sides they wanted us to read for it.
08:46I have a good memory.
08:47So, I probably read over it for, like, 10 minutes, and I knew every paragraph by heart.
08:51Damn.
08:51So, when they called me in, they was very amazed by that, like, oh, my God, how do you,
08:55you know you need the paper, right?
08:56I'm like, no, I don't need it.
08:57I got it.
08:58And they was like, how did you memorize this stuff so fast?
09:01And then they was going for a certain look.
09:03Like, I had to show, like, my body.
09:05Like, not show, but, like, take your coat off.
09:06Let me see, you know, your full.
09:08But, you know, they was going for a certain look.
09:09So, that alone with the lines.
09:11And, like I said, this was, like, really my first role.
09:13So, I didn't know how to act at all.
09:15So, they probably was like, okay, you know, we'll take her.
09:18Like, she can memorize the lines.
09:19She got the body for it.
09:20We take her, you know.
09:22Is it harder, in your opinion, doing series or movies?
09:27I don't think it's really a difference, honestly.
09:29I think it's kind of the same, yeah.
09:31Okay.
09:31The only thing I really like about doing a series is you get more time to, like,
09:37hone your character and become your character and make it your own, too.
09:41You know what I'm saying?
09:42A lot of people don't know you can really bring more to the script if you hone your character.
09:49You'll make the writer of the script be like, okay, now I know how this person act.
09:53I really like them doing this.
09:54Now they changing the script based off of how you bringing that character to life.
09:57So, I like series for that reason.
09:59And then it still depends, too, because some series get shot in the same amount of time as a movie, honestly.
10:04Oh, really?
10:05Yeah.
10:05Yeah, like some series, they shoot it in eight days and the whole thing done.
10:09You know what I'm saying?
10:10Damn.
10:10Which is crazy.
10:11That's a lot of work.
10:12It is a lot of work.
10:12It's really, like, I don't want to say overworking people, but it's overworking people, honestly.
10:17It is.
10:18And I'm not specifically talking about that series.
10:20I'm just saying period, like series in general.
10:23It's overworking people, for sure.
10:25Film, directing.
10:27Both of y'all do that?
10:28Yeah, well, I haven't directed it yet.
10:29He directed.
10:30First movie that just dropped, actually, man.
10:32Yeah.
10:33Reginald Carter.
10:34Yes.
10:34Can y'all talk about that a little bit?
10:35So, I wrote Reginald Carter.
10:38I'm a writer.
10:38This is my third film that I've wrote.
10:40I'm actually working on my fourth film right now.
10:43And I'm just sitting in the tub one day.
10:45You know, I randomly just start writing.
10:48Like, if I'm down or if I'm just chilling, if I'm bored, I'll just start writing.
10:52And so, I'm just writing, and I'm thinking of this storyline.
10:54I love to help people.
10:56Like, I love, even as a young lady, like, when I was in school, I was, like, always a big help.
11:01And I always thought about, like, kids and what they went through in school.
11:04And a lot of people go through, like, in real life, like, being just less fortunate.
11:09You know, not really having a parent to be there for them.
11:12Like, a lot of kids go through things.
11:13So, I just wanted to bring out, like, just, like, awareness and just, like, something that people can relate to.
11:18You know, and I feel bad about it.
11:20Like, okay, I'm not the only one that go through this stuff.
11:22Even I had a message in there that was basically that I really wanted to bring out.
11:27I always, like, thought, like, people who's, like, homeless, right?
11:31Like, you know, they be on the corners and stuff with the signs.
11:34And people always probably be, like, oh, well, they do drugs, that's on them.
11:37They do this, that's on them.
11:38But some people really, like.
11:40Exposed to it.
11:41They exposed to it.
11:42And some people, like, I had to go to this, like, class, right?
11:46Like, that's a story for another day.
11:47But in the class, the people that I was teaching us were, like, people who actually was, like, recovered addicts.
11:52And a lot of them was, like, you know, I got into an accident and I was in the hospital.
11:56And they was just dragging me up, dragging me up, dragging me up.
11:58I got addicted to it.
11:59So, now, you know, it's to the point that I'm addicted to it.
12:02Now, I'm immune to it.
12:03So, I need something stronger.
12:04But it's, like, an accident got me to being an addicted addict.
12:08You know what I'm saying?
12:09So, I feel like I wanted to put that message in there just so people could know it's not always that this person just wanted to try this.
12:15Or this person just, you know, just got on it just because, like, a lot of times you never know why people are in the place they're in.
12:21So, that was, like, a message that I really wanted to run through that movie as well.
12:24When she brought you the script, what was your first thought?
12:30I was like, oh, this is a good story.
12:32Like, she writes stuff that's, like, relatable to a lot of people and you might not know it's relatable to them.
12:42So, me personally, because I'm just, I don't know, I'm so used to, like, the dark, street, gritty stuff.
12:48You know what I'm saying?
12:48I'm like.
12:49This was different.
12:50Yeah.
12:50But I have an eye and I see stuff, too, and I'm like, oh, yeah, I want to direct this one.
12:55Nice.
12:56You know what I'm saying?
12:56So, I thought it was real good.
12:59You like being behind the camera more or in front of the camera?
13:01I mean, I like being in front of the camera more, sure.
13:04But I love being behind the camera, too, though.
13:07Okay.
13:07I'm really, like, starting to really love being behind the camera more.
13:12I'm digging to your personal life just a little bit on the movie side.
13:16Y'all be doing sex scenes in these movies, y'all.
13:18Is that as uncomfortable as everybody says it is with 90 people watching y'all and y'all trying to act out being intimate?
13:28It's very uncomfortable.
13:29Like, people just right there.
13:30It's not that many people, but, I mean, not in an independent world.
13:33Right.
13:33If they are doing it correctly like they're supposed to.
13:35Like, I learn as I go.
13:37And nobody really in Detroit be doing these scenes properly.
13:41Like, it's people that's supposed to be there.
13:43It's coordinators that's supposed to be there.
13:45You know what I'm saying?
13:45Mm-hmm.
13:46But nobody really do it properly.
13:48Like, filming in L.A., I just learned so much out there.
13:51Like, oh, we get this on set.
13:53Oh, you got a person that do this.
13:54You know what I'm saying?
13:55It's, like, so different.
13:56But it's very uncomfortable.
13:58But, honestly, now, I say, how long has it been since I even did a scene like that?
14:03But, probably 2023.
14:07Yeah, I don't, like, the movies that's out that people have seen.
14:10They already been, yeah.
14:11I've been there, though, in my first year of acting.
14:15Like, but 2024, even 2025, like, I be trying not to take on stuff like that.
14:19I want people to see, like, what I can really do.
14:21I don't want them to be like, oh, we about to watch Kiva.
14:24She ain't here.
14:24I know she popping it, you know?
14:25Yeah, yeah, yeah.
14:26Like, I want them to be like, oh, Kiva, oh, she playing a lawyer now.
14:29Oh, Kiva playing a teacher.
14:30Oh, Kiva playing this.
14:31You know, so I don't even honestly write.
14:33No movie I ever wrote has had an intercourse scene in it.
14:37Do y'all be feeling a way since y'all in a relationship, like, bro, you was leaning
14:40a little bit too much into that sex scene.
14:42Like, I mean, it's people who are crazy.
14:45Nah, I don't think so, man.
14:46I think because we both in this field and we know that it's weird, you know, doing
14:50those things.
14:51Yeah.
14:51So, it's like, do your job.
14:54You know what I'm saying?
14:55I was going to say the same thing.
14:56I think it's kind of like we both in the industry.
14:58You know what I'm saying?
14:59So, it's like we know what comes with what we do.
15:01You know what I'm saying?
15:02So, it's kind of like we know how we feel about it.
15:05We know how we feel about each other.
15:06It's like at the end of the day, it's work, you know?
15:08So, you got to have those type of understandings when you go in this industry.
15:11A lot of people can't date because they get accused of this.
15:14They get accused of that.
15:15I feel like dating somebody that's in the same, you know, feel.
15:18It's like y'all have a better understanding.
15:21So, how did y'all meet?
15:23What set did y'all meet on?
15:24It's something that's not out.
15:26This was...
15:26That's funny.
15:28It's not out yet.
15:29This is something that's not out yet.
15:30Now, this was like...
15:31Remember I told you the first thing I did was the extra role?
15:34Yes.
15:35I had the girl who I filmed that with, she knew this guy who would do like photo shoots
15:40and stuff and he was like doing movies and I'm like, oh, see if he can put me in.
15:43So, he ended up like reaching out to me and stuff and it's still not out now.
15:48This was like literally four years ago.
15:50Yeah.
15:50It was more so kind of like a reality TV show.
15:53Oh, okay.
15:54In a way.
15:54Yeah.
15:55So, that's where we met.
15:59However, we didn't interact for real.
16:02Yeah.
16:02On that show, on that set.
16:05We didn't interact on that.
16:06Really?
16:07Yeah.
16:07So, the Dirty D is what brought us back together.
16:10I didn't even know she auditioned for that role.
16:11I didn't know who was playing Kyra.
16:13Yeah, I didn't expect to see her either.
16:15Yeah.
16:15Oh, damn.
16:16So, y'all wasn't even...
16:17No, we didn't know.
16:18That's why we always be like, that was God.
16:21You know what I'm saying?
16:21That brought us back together.
16:23That's an amazing story, y'all.
16:24Because when we first met, it was like how long before the Dirty D?
16:28Probably a year because I think that was 2020, 2021.
16:31I think we met like at the beginning of 2021.
16:34Yeah.
16:35And then we did the Dirty D, I think.
16:36Was it like the end of 2021?
16:38Yeah, toward the end.
16:39Yeah.
16:40All right.
16:41Last thing, and I'm going to let y'all get up out of here.
16:42Y'all movie, Reginald Carter, is out right now.
16:44It's on Amazon Prime.
16:45Yes, sir.
16:46All right.
16:46What made y'all want to go from Prime and...
16:49Hold on.
16:49Actually, two questions.
16:50Does the term to be actor bother y'all?
16:53I mean, me personally, I feel like people just don't really understand.
16:58And you can't expect people to understand because they're not in the industry.
17:00They know what's from.
17:01That's what they know what's from.
17:02You know what I'm saying?
17:03So in a head, this is what I'm used to seeing you on.
17:06You act on here.
17:07You know, like people be like...
17:08And I used to be like this too.
17:10Because at first, I used to be like, do y'all say that this person is a BET actor or this person is a...
17:14But they on all different platforms.
17:16When you're used to seeing somebody on this platform, that's just what they're used to.
17:20But if you want to be honest, I don't even think Tubi was the first platform James was on, was it?
17:26It was actually Prime.
17:27Was it?
17:28Yeah.
17:28My first movie, it was called Warrior Pride.
17:31Trick, Trick.
17:32Young Buck had an appearance in it.
17:35Cheryl Pepsi-Riley.
17:36She'd be in a lot of Tali Perry stuff.
17:37But that was on Prime.
17:39Because when I first started acting, it wasn't no Tubi.
17:42Tubi wasn't around.
17:43You know what I'm saying?
17:44And again, Tubi is just a platform that we put our content on.
17:47Kind of like YouTube.
17:49That's what I think too.
17:50Instagram, Facebook.
17:51So me personally, when people say Tubi actor, Tubi movie, I do take it as like an insult.
17:57You know what I'm saying?
17:57Because it's like people have a name for Tubi, which is bad.
18:03You know what I'm saying?
18:04Like poor quality.
18:05Right, right.
18:06So don't put me in the box of all that poorness.
18:08You know what I'm saying?
18:09Like respectfully.
18:10You know what I'm saying?
18:11Because I take acting serious.
18:13You know what I'm saying?
18:14I see it.
18:15And like a lot of times, bro, people just be saying that to be funny.
18:18And like it's people that's only on Netflix and you don't call them Netflix actors.
18:22You know what I'm saying?
18:23I feel like a lot of people are confused as well with Tubi.
18:26They think we work for Tubi.
18:27They think Tubi are paying us to film.
18:30Yeah, it's like Apple Music, right?
18:32We are paying for our own projects.
18:34Like Reginald Carter, for instance, we pay for all that out of pocket.
18:38We are just putting our projects on there so we can make money.
18:42You know what I'm saying?
18:43People really like they honestly think that we are getting paid.
18:45Like I think that's the reason why they call us Tubi actors too because they think that Tubi is hiring us to come act.
18:53They think that Tubi is writing these movies out and they're picking us to say, hey, I want to pay you to come act in this.
18:59But they don't understand like we are every project that's on there, people, they do it.
19:04They do their projects like Tyler Perry.
19:06You know, he put his projects on there.
19:07But people are actually making their own projects and we're putting it on there just like he said, just like YouTube, just like Facebook, just like Instagram.
19:13It's just a platform that you can post on and you make your money on.
19:17They talking about Tubi actor.
19:18My movie, my face was right next to Denzel movie on Tubi.
19:22Like, I don't get it.
19:23Everybody on there.
19:24But, you know, a lot of people in Hollywood, they are realizing that Tubi is like where a lot of money is at, honestly.
19:31Yeah, paying the most.
19:32Tubi is paying the most.
19:34Like, honestly, if you want to sell your movie and get a buyout there, you can go somewhere else.
19:38Cool.
19:38But if you want to have faith in your project and just feel like, oh, I know I can make this amount of money.
19:43Tubi is like the highest paying platform for that.
19:46Prime, actually, a lot of people don't know.
19:50My first movie I wrote went to Prime before Tubi.
19:52I had my first movie, Connected Through Blood, on Prime probably about a month or so before it went to Tubi.
19:57I personally feel like certain movies and the stories is like for certain platforms.
20:04You know what I'm saying?
20:04Certain platforms, certain audiences.
20:06People, they think Tubi, like a lot of people that watch Tubi, especially like our supporters, like they want to see the drama.
20:13They want to see the ghetto-ness.
20:14They want to see like, you know, the ratchiness sometimes.
20:17I don't really too much write like that, honestly.
20:19So that wouldn't be my go-to.
20:21I would go to Prime first where I know the audience, they more so want like a story.
20:25You know, like something that's relatable.
20:27Something that people really go through in the world.
20:29Something that's like more calm and soothing.
20:30You know what I'm saying?
20:31And so I would go there first.
20:33Not saying that I won't put, we won't put Reginald Carter on Tubi because we're still thinking about it.
20:37But we're going to go with where we feel like our audience really more so like this kind of stuff first.
20:43That's honestly why.
20:43Yeah, because we know Tubi want that messy, that gritty, that street, that hood.
20:49You know what I'm saying?
20:50So I guess that answers my second question.
20:52Is that the reason why y'all wanted to go to Prime instead of Tubi?
20:55Because of, I guess, the quality of which I was putting out.
20:58It made sense to go on Amazon Prime.
20:59But like, even quality wise too, like we try to, we try to present the best quality that we can.
21:05You know what I'm saying?
21:06Like, this is our third one.
21:08You know, we still like new to, on the filmmaking side.
21:11But we trying to make sure that picture look great.
21:14We trying to make sure that audio sound good.
21:16You know what I'm saying?
21:16We don't want to be like, oh, they recorded this on a little Nokia.
21:19You know, we try to make it look good.
21:21But, and we just feel like we will put it there first when they have certain storylines.
21:26Now, the movie I'm writing out, it's a bit messy.
21:28It's a bit drama.
21:29That's going directly to Tubi.
21:31Like, I already know y'all going to eat this up.
21:32Y'all going to love this.
21:33You know, so.
21:34All right.
21:35Well, I don't want to take up no more of y'all time.
21:37I appreciate both of y'all for stopping in, man.
21:39Makeeva Albright, King James.
21:42Albright.
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21:43Showtime Dizards, one on five when the bounce.
21:45Peace.
21:45Yes, sir.