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Zeru Finance is Buidling the Worlds First AI Generated Credit Score - Prof. Ashutosh Sahoo, Zeru Fin
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5/27/2025
Zeru Finance, led by Prof. Ashutosh Sahoo, is pioneering the world's first AI-generated credit score—revolutionizing decentralized lending with smarter, fairer risk assessment for Web3
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yeah yeah first of all you know welcome you and and we are glad that you're here on the
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roll-up day just tell a bit about yourself your web3 journey and what you are doing
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so we are currently building the world's first truly decentralized AI generated credit score
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and the computations are happening on an eigen ABS okay now the thing is if we look at previous
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attempts at credit credit scores they have all failed primarily because they are centralized so
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they did not find acceptance in lending borrowing protocols and what we are what has changed since
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then eigen layer has come up and AI has advanced really well so we are able to generate a credit
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score for every wallet essentially probability of liquidations and based on the credit score we are
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giving leverage on money markets so if you've got a good credit score you can get a greater leverage
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and this is not like a perp DEX or typical margin trading these are complex DeFi strategies which
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are usually difficult to use as as a normal dgen or a normal end user right we are using AI to automate
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all of that right so it creates an economic flywheel which unlocks a number of use cases like zero
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collateral loans under collateralized lending right crypto credit cards bringing real world uh you know
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credit and you know on chain and rewarding people so that will help us onboard you know a lot more
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retail into DeFi so that is what we are doing at zero about me I have worked for 15 years in fortune 500
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companies before getting into web3 so Sandeep and I are from Indian Institute of Management Mumbai so I'm from the same
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in college in 2014 batch in 2009 so that is how I learned about crypto so Polygon was my route to crypto
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not BTC or not ETH and I was a retail investor for two two and a half years and then I started building uh
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Polytrade with Piyush and Arul so we were in the you know in the core team right when Polytrade was started
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after that I spent a couple of years or three years with router protocol and reef so both are layer one
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blockchains router solving for interoperability reef was a substrate solo chain back then Polkadot
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narrative was quite strong so that seemed like an interesting bet no that that's super super exciting
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I've been into lending space you know before getting into blockchain in 2017
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uh I was part of a team called Vistocredit based out of us we created the first uh business lending
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platform nice you know it was the first of its platform uh very big you know Vistocredit is almost
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a billion dollar company now we can learn a lot from you yeah so uh so now so this this whole credit
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score piece is super exciting so right now you're using on-chain data only or uh you plan to bring in
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off-chain data also so right now the version that is live is on-chain data but we are doing a
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zktls implementation okay with reclaim or opacity right uh then we will be able to bring in off-chain
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data okay and the best thing is it is zktls so which means the user is still uh you know
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got it private private no we are not doing any kyc or we are not revealing identity we cannot
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so it's zk so got it and i think super exciting yeah so we hope that this becomes a robust acceptable uh
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standard for credit and even if it does not right because for a lending borrowing protocol which has
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been learned you know running for five seven years see the use case is very compelling i was working
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with a startup called ledger score they were pretty much building on a on a similar line the challenge
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is there are in lending today there's highly over collateralized growth right so that that problem
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has to be solved if the lending needs to expand and lending you know finances is the heart and soul of
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of every every ecosystem every ecosystem right so businesses cannot thrive you cannot access to
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capitalism of course the biggest thing exactly and that is what is stopping uh d5 today right capital
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inefficiency and over collateral but the thing is even if it is a compelling use case right incumbent
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protocols which are already sitting on 25 30 billion tbl they don't want to change their vote because
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to yeah even uh and that's how you know see the way i see it is you know uh the disruptive innovation
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happens small you know yeah but then then incumbent players also start jumping in that's how it happens
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let's see how it goes yeah definitely innovation has to be disruptive that's definitely an exciting
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journey that we have set off on right very ambitious uh unknown territory uncharted territory right
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so let's see how it goes cool cool thank you lovely talking to you same here thank you thanks for
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joining us
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