The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 1 Episode 2

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00:00Time and time again

00:03Followed up in doubt

00:05Getting arrested. It was a worse time of my life. I ended up being charged with

00:10aggravated assault with three years of probation

00:15It's been a challenge going from the scandal to relationship to miscarriage to arrest to

00:22Being pregnant again

00:26Let's talk about

00:28Okay

00:32After I was arrested Dakota and I like we actually never broke up

00:36We stayed in our relationship and I think we wanted it to be honest. It might not be the smartest decision in our situation

00:42It wasn't

00:44But it is what it is

00:47This place is so cute. I want to get a little drinky drink. Hello. I got this one. You got it. Thank you. I

00:55Was so shocked when I found out Taylor was pregnant I couldn't believe it you were shocked. Yes

01:01You weren't surprised. She's been kind of MIA. I feel like she's like separated herself from all of us

01:06I mean, I feel like I would if it were me

01:09She had this winger scandal had an affair with her husband. Then she had her miscarriage with Dakota

01:14Continued breaking it on and off with Dakota. Then she got arrested and now she's pregnant. It's like

01:21Like I see guys like think with their dick that's like Taylor things with her vagina

01:25She does not think of like I don't think she thinks with anything

01:30Love her but sometimes I'm like sweetheart like it's not that hard. Yeah

01:37Good morning. How's it going? Good. How are you? Good freezing. It is cold outside

01:45I'm so excited to go shopping. What all have you bought so far? Nothing

01:50You haven't bought anything

01:51I want to wait till after the shower to get stuff cuz then you know what you do and don't need, you know

01:56Yeah, I want to invite all of mom talk to come to my baby shower

02:01I feel like this would be like a good fresh start. Did you guys get her baby shower invite though? Yeah

02:07They're gonna go obviously. Yeah, are you going I?

02:12had one of

02:14my last

02:15probation

02:16Appointments today

02:18Yeah, what what did they say? So this is how it works

02:22So I went like once a month every month, but now it changes to every six months

02:26I go in so I don't have to go in every month, which is that's a step, you know, yeah

02:33Yeah, we should we just shouldn't even be there

02:37After the arrest I was under so much stress I

02:41Was filmed leaving the jail and then that was immediately on the internet

02:46It was a blessing in disguise that helped me like wake up

02:50I'm not gonna go through this again. I can't

02:53You've aged me like 10 years

02:56I've aged myself

02:59It's put a very

03:01I'd say negative image on mom time. I think that something needs to change we need to get back to

03:08What mom talk was before all this how do you want to exclude her from it?

03:12Like what are you saying? I just think like let's change the culture

03:16The swinger scandal sure. We got a lot of ice

03:19We got a lot of publicity from it, but I feel like ever since the arrest it's been the complete opposite

03:24I know for a lot of people like brand deals have gone down

03:28We need to make sure that we have a good reputation on social media

03:31Because brands aren't gonna want to work with us if they think we're going to jail and throwing stools at a wall

03:38We need to make sure to just completely get rid of that culture because it's our livelihood

03:43Right now I feel like we're like holding on a thread here. Yeah, I feel like it's like Rocky

03:48Mm-hmm

03:49And I feel like it's gonna take at least one of us to kind of step up to keep the group going like it's almost weird

03:54Today doing content without Taylor. Yeah, this feels different, you know, yeah, it is weird

04:01I'm just like

04:04It's overwhelming like I feel like right now I just have a lot on my plate and Dakota's like

04:10Talking about marriage a lot and I'm not quite

04:15I'm not fully in

04:18I'm so scared to like just get hurt. I guess I've done like everything like push him. I

04:26Think it's more of a test like are you gonna stay here with me through like thick and thin, you know?

04:30And so I've done these things or I'm like tried to push him and self

04:34he's like you're trying to ruin this like you want to ruin this and he's like

04:37You're gonna do it. Eventually if you keep trying it

04:41my due date is in six to eight weeks and I

04:46Don't know

04:47if um

04:50I'll like ever forgive myself

04:53And

04:54that's why I like really push Dakota because I

04:58Don't feel like I deserve this like a happy ending life

05:03And I think that's like something like I learned in therapy like I

05:08Just like kind of struggle. Um, and I'm like terrified

05:17Sorry, I can't talk I'm like hurting so bad inside

05:22I know I don't want you to you to feel that way. I think that's why I had like a psychotic break is because I

05:28Don't know how to handle it and that much hurt that I had at one time and and the whole social media was watching and

05:35I didn't know what to do

05:37After the arrest, I lost a lot of friends. I miss having the close friendships

05:42So I would like to just kind of start over beginning with my baby shower. Oh

05:48Gosh, I'm sorry

05:50I'm gonna put some lip gloss on act like I didn't have a meltdown in the car. Oh

05:59Thank you, I know it's cute, huh? Yeah

06:20Good try me bring it to your knees, baby

06:44Please Lord make me the biggest star

06:50We start flying up

06:52My biggest thing surviving as a working mom with young kids is self-care and hanging out with my close girlfriends

06:59I feel like I need to be on a chair

07:02Please Lord make me the biggest star the world has ever known. That was it

07:07Taylor used to be the face of mom talk and then one of that all blew up

07:11No one really knew what mom talks stood for anymore. I feel like if mom talk is gonna remake its image

07:17It's up to the rest of us to step up and make it happen

07:19I know you don't want to make a tick-tock, but we've got to pay the bills

07:22I mean who else is gonna pay the bills who is currently like the breadwinner at home?

07:30Think all of us. Yeah, definitely for sure. Oh all of us really. Yeah, we all are look at us

07:37Social media has been like the greatest blessing in that sense

07:39I feel like we haven't known a brand deal in a long time zero November zero December and then I got three that in January

07:45I wonder if holidays were just slow

07:49The past year has been a little rough going for mom talk after Taylor's arrest

07:53But we still want to keep mom talk going and I think it's up to us to keep everything flowing

07:58I had one brand deal like going into the holidays. Yeah, and then dry

08:05What's the weirdest deal you've gotten?

08:07Mia Jen got one what a bladder

08:10What was it after giving birth like your pelvic is just so weak that you could sneeze and like yourself

08:17Yes, it was for diapers, I just said yes there I'm reading the brief and me in general like wait a minute

08:23Oh, thank you for diapers. I'm like, are you doing it? Okay. I feel like you've probably had more you have

08:30Yeah, don't you yeah

08:32Do you have a weird brand deal you want to share guys? I genuinely need your opinion. What?

08:38Okay, so I got this offer and it's like I'm not gonna lie like the money is really good

08:42I'm like how much we talking

08:4520 200 200,000

08:49Thousand 20,000 20. Okay. Well, I thought for what it's really good money. Okay. What is that? What's up? Oh goodness

09:03What the what is that I can't just like pleasure

09:07Hey

09:09What is this

09:12Whitney love it from spreading the good word door-to-door to spread in the word about vibrators who would have thought

09:19Congratulations, I've got a little microphone

09:28Here you want to see them let me just my name on it. Oh did me balance for you

09:34Your bro, it's your finger but better guys I need to go upstairs

09:41Okay, so what do they want you to do because so open so literally all I have to do is hold it

09:47And take a picture like just me and post it on my Instagram. That's it

09:52in the Mormon religion

09:54We're very conservative. I worry about

09:58The people that I grew up with specifically my family seeing me promote this sex toy because it's a very very taboo

10:09I know I don't I wouldn't do it for 20. I'd do it for a hundred baby. I would do it

10:14Honestly, I think Whitney should take the deal for the vibrator

10:16I honestly don't see anything wrong with promoting a sex toy

10:21The amount was still not enough for me to post that on my feed but get that back girl

10:26I personally would never promote

10:30Sex brand sex has been such a taboo topic especially within the church for so long

10:36It's like if we're trying to break the mold and modernize and get to a place of like normalizing things that starts with us

10:42More than just making tech talks. I just love this group of women getting together and having these important conversations

10:47I also feel like this mom talk group, especially being in Utah is breaking a norm

10:54We're raising this new generation and

10:57Things are changing and I'm loving what's changing. I think that a lot of women

11:02Because of the shame and lack of knowledge. I think a lot of women don't even orgasm. I would

11:11Know I'm dead ass never in my life

11:14I'm like scared. Take this home with you. My name is Layla Taylor. I'm 22

11:19I got married when I was 19. Me and my husband were then married for three years, but we ended up getting divorced

11:26So I've only ever really dated about four people. So that's not a lot of time to discover yourself

11:33Have you tried a toy? Yeah, and anytime I get close to the feeling of it

11:37I get scared and I like stop. Yeah, two kids 22 never in my life. I went to a very

11:44Mormon populated high school. So I'd be like, okay, what's the one thing that all of my friends have in common?

11:48They're all part of the church. So I got baptized on my own when I was 16 being black in the church. I

11:56Have never taken it personally, but you definitely do stick out like a sore thumb

12:00I feel like I'm like missing out and I like want to but I just you will once you do it once you will want

12:06I know you'll be like a teenage boy

12:11No, she literally starts levitating

12:13Do it for yourself don't even do it for him because sex isn't just about the guy

12:19It's about us too, you know, the more you enjoy it the more they enjoy it, you know, I don't have that problem

12:24I'm gonna enjoy it funny. Yeah, you definitely are

12:29Before you're married, it's like sex is taboo

12:31But then the second you get married, you're supposed to be this like porn star for your husband

12:35We know who the real porn star is for their husband

12:43No

12:47We've seen those news

12:49My name is Jen Affleck. I am 24 years old facts gonna kill me for this one, but Ben Affleck

12:56This is second cousin. I'm definitely the first Jen Affleck

12:59Not only that her middle name is the same as mine Jennifer Lynn Affleck. I don't know. Maybe we can convert them to the church

13:06I am a content creator. My goal is really just to be able to provide for my family

13:11I've always been super comfortable with my sexuality

13:15which I

13:17Definitely think has also gotten me in trouble

13:20Because I am a conservative Mormon. I do follow all those rules

13:24I'm not kidding. You inspired me like full like for Brett and I've never done any way you did it. Yes

13:30Like you took a bar. Oh, I took so many

13:42Oh

13:52Here we are a group of women and mom talk who can inspire other women to not be ashamed to use a sex toy

13:59I think is very empowering. I just worry that my family would be a bit shocked by me

14:06Advertising something like this

14:11I

14:28Come on in how's it going? You guys can sit down. What are you doing?

14:33Dishes. Oh, what are you guys up to? Your mom drugged me here off of my job sites

14:38really

14:39So what's so important you need to talk to us about did you not tell him mom?

14:43I did tell him that Dakota was probably gonna move in. No. Yeah, probably like yeah, he's moving in

14:52when

14:54Today

14:55like now

14:56Yeah

14:58I'm very excited for this next step one

15:00We have a child on the way and I feel like I really just want to

15:05Try to move forward heal and really work on our relationship

15:09I know you guys prefer marriage before moving in but like that's obviously not how it's gonna go, you know

15:17I'm not supportive of it

15:19Why do you have to rush it?

15:21Because we're having a baby. I know but that doesn't matter. You'd rather me do it alone

15:25Yeah, that's the choice you made when you got pregnant

15:28in our

15:30religion

15:31Marriage is like essential to have that partnership

15:35We believe like it's a sacred thing

15:37That's what me and your mom have tried to teach you the church teaches that we shouldn't live with a partner outside of marriage

15:47You already got divorced, you know at a young age and then you bring Dakota in this when you don't know if he's a hundred

15:53Percent sober. I don't want you to be like, oh this is not gonna work out. Okay. I have a baby from a second

15:59Daddy, I don't want a revolving door of men

16:03Attached to my daughter and to my grandkids for having this baby out of wedlock

16:08You guys can be mad all you want, but he's moving in and he's gonna help me with the baby

16:12That's the goal is to get married. It's not like I'm having this kid

16:14I don't want to get married ever you want to give yourself time before you marry someone for the rest of your life again

16:19You know, like it's my second marriage. So it's like I'm scared. Yeah

16:23Again you shouldn't have got pregnant. That's just true. Is that him?

16:32I'll go say hi and help him. I'll be right back

16:39Here I'm gonna help you bring some boxes you don't have to baby

16:42Do you have any light ones a lot of them? I mean, I'll get most my heavy stuff

16:45I just told him that you're moving in. Look at that one just now. Are you listening? Oh, sorry. No what?

16:51Just now you just told them that's why he's like, oh you brought him here

16:56He doesn't have anything. No couches dirty clothes. Yeah, I didn't know your parents are even gonna be here. Do they need help?

17:05So he's scary it is scary we might go

17:09It's all that gray hair. They've caused you to go gray

17:13Hopefully I can you do

17:15They don't ever listen to anything. We tell them to do anyway, so

17:19I

17:20Seriously, do you need any help?

17:24Like I have more but so first of all you knock up my daughter, oh my gosh

17:31Okay, what you tripped and fell yeah

17:35Yeah, so moving in

17:39That's

17:42Shocking I know is that how you were raised you should

17:48See here's here. So here's what happened. You just knock up girls. No and see everything we did completely opposite. I think like

17:56Realistically, we would have liked to have done it the tradition the traditional way, but given our situation

18:03I want to also help Taylor's so I just feel like the only way for me to really do that is to be in here

18:09I'm excited to have another life into our family a little baby, but I

18:15Do have my reservations about this whole thing. This is honestly

18:20Everything I've ever wanted in my future. I just never thought it was possible for me to have I do want a family

18:26I want all those things

18:27Not only that I love your daughter like I love her a lot and we align a lot on what we want in our future

18:33together, yeah

18:35Which makes it really nice we talked about that like even just like

18:40Religion, I guess as simple as like I wanted someone in the church

18:45To marry again, and he wanted the same. Yeah. Oh you did. Yeah

18:51Since the arrest and my pregnancy, I feel like I have changed spiritually I

18:57Have really looked at like what's important my priorities?

19:01I want someone like to go to church with when we go to church

19:04like I don't want to be in a relationship or like I'm taking my kids alone and stuff and I just really wanted that like

19:10And you have usually the same morals and values. I feel like or do we always follow them?

19:16No, but we're pretty aligned. Yeah in that way

19:20being pregnant and

19:22recommitting and trying to go back to church is not the typical Mormon thing to do and most wouldn't and I feel like they'd be

19:28A little bit more shameful and I do have those feelings anxiety fear of going back in and being judged

19:34However, I still love our faith and really want to make an effort to go

19:38So we are just gonna try I think that when you're pregnant and you're bringing a life into the world

19:44You need to be really considering marriage. It's really not that different, you know

19:49I'm moving in with my parents being here did not go well, but I'm hoping our baby shower goes better

20:19Oh my gosh, it's getting so big oh small though. What the heck like you're lucky I get huge I know and I'm almost like

20:27There I know sweet. So we're looking for stuff for the baby. Yes. I want to show you like a picture

20:33Yeah, what's the vibe?

20:34I'm having my baby shower at this venue called the white shanty

20:38It is Mormon owned and they pretty much have like every Mormon event

20:42You can think of I just really want this baby shower to be perfect

20:46And I just really need my support system back. So I just hope all my friends come and show up for me

20:50We want to find like some eucalyptus

20:53And then baby's breath. Yeah, okay

20:56And I was looking at these like dang. I want to get some plants. I'd probably kill it on accident though

21:01So I am kind of nervous

21:04About my baby shower. Why just to see everyone. I'm just like

21:10Scared. Yeah, honestly, there's just no I don't blame you

21:13But I feel like when everything came out, I felt bad for you

21:17Everyone was shitting on you and I was like, I would hate to be in her position

21:20Even if I effed up and everyone's like, thank you Taylor

21:23I'm like

21:23I couldn't just like I couldn't like imagine where your mental health was that if anything it made me like want to come towards you

21:29More like this girl like needs a friend

21:32After the scandal and then obviously the arrest the moms and mom talk all for sure judged me

21:38They didn't know the background of the story

21:40We don't like Taylor those who love and support you will be there

21:43Yeah, and I guess I can kind of give you an idea of like who cares and who doesn't we don't have time for fake

21:49friends, you know, I

21:51Do feel like you've done a great job at taking accountability for like things from the past and like what you've done

21:56Yeah

21:57but I do think that you take all of the

22:00Accountability and you act like it's all you and then like Dakota looks like this angel sent from heaven

22:07Who's like this perfect person when he's not?

22:11Like I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. I

22:14Worry because of like what I've seen him say to you

22:19Me and Mikayla went to this event Taylor shows up and then her ex walked in and immediately Taylor was like stressed

22:26Dakota was freaking out. He basically was saying like F you

22:30You're nothing slut and Taylor was sitting there like shaking. She doesn't deserve that

22:35I just think that he's not treated you the way you should be treated

22:46When we were at that event and he was texting that was looking of your shoulder I was reading your whole conversation

22:53I can see that you were like shutting down and you were so anxious and I was like what's going on?

22:58I just think that he's not treated you the way you should be treated

23:02But I also feel like things have gotten so much better like what has changed like he's being less toxic or both of us

23:12How so just like with the addiction or just like in the relation

23:16Taylor definitely hasn't confided in me as much since she got pregnant

23:20I don't really hear much about the relationship anymore, which I knew eventually would happen. That's what usually does happen those toxic relationships

23:27Two weeks before she told me she was pregnant. She called me basically saying I want to get out of this relationship

23:33I don't know how to get out like she was basically asking for my help and then two weeks later

23:37She's telling us she's pregnant. I always think about you

23:40That's why I always check in cuz I'm like, I want you to know you can like talk to me

23:42I think that's why I always like defend you cuz I've been there

23:46Yeah, I'm telling you so many of the girls don't and they won't

23:50And I feel like I really gave him benefit of the doubt, but I haven't seen any progress

23:54Maybe that's why like I only know what I saw in the past and that like pisses me off. Sure. There's been a lot

23:59I will say yeah, I can honestly say there's been so much progress

24:04Dakota is obviously very insecure because people who are confident and themselves and the relationship they don't act like that

24:10But it's still no excuse for his behavior

24:12I'm just trying to be a good friend to Taylor and I see those red flags and it scares me. I don't trust him

24:19I don't think he's good for Taylor. I don't think that they should be together period

24:24Do you guys just do this on my own like you rather be have you be happy without this person and miserable with them?

24:29Just for the baby. I

24:30Don't like it. I

24:35See Macy as like this

24:37Protective friend. She's always defending me in situations. I do appreciate that. She's blunt and always been honest

24:43I know she wants the best for me. But at the same time, it's really hard to hear and accept as well

24:49All right. Well, I want to look at the pots. They have yeah, let's look at the pot

24:54You wanna guess me? Take your foot up off the break make no mistake

24:59We're wide awake

25:01Second guess in every movie

25:13Hey fun, you guys already have everything out. Yeah, guess who didn't Lexi is she the new favorite? I don't know about new

25:25Being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

25:28I know it's a whole mouthful. My family is very conservative. My family's family is very conservative

25:35How's your boyfriend?

25:36Good mom. How do you feel that? He's not Mormon. He's a great kid

25:40Why do I feel like if I were to date a non-mormon boy in high school mom would have absolutely said no way

25:47Well now, you know, I wouldn't have cared

25:54Of course it's gonna weigh in to my decision whether or not I'm gonna promote a vibrator

25:58I'm just trying to figure out is this a gray area or is this an absolute?

26:05Do not promote this

26:07So mom and Lexi, I'm curious to know your point of view on this, too. I

26:13Got a really juicy brand deal for a vibrator

26:19Okay, just to promote it on my social media

26:23Why would you do that? Well one the money is really good

26:27And do and do I feel like I can go about it where it's like empowering

26:34You don't think it's like empowering

26:38No

26:40Why do you like that like matches your platform though? Cuz you're all like, oh my god kids home making

26:47vibrator I

26:50Mean yeah, like let's empower each other

26:54does much I

26:55Just think a lot of that is private personal

26:59But I also I wanted to because I like I didn't want it to be shunned. It's like if you need this tool

27:06to enjoy

27:08Intimacy with your partner more like there shouldn't be shame around it. Do you feel like there is with the church in sex toys?

27:15Probably yeah, I think it's a personal thing between you and your partner

27:20What if you were single?

27:22I'm not sure how I feel about that

27:24You think that it should be a no-no. I think when you're seeking pleasure, it can just get out of hand

27:31And I put these in I feel like we were so involved in the church

27:35growing up even in young women's or girls camp or young women's activities like whenever we would talk about the law of chastity or

27:43Sex like it was always no, no, no, no, no

27:47There's this verse. I remember where it talks about how sex was comparable to murder. And so that's what's

27:55Going in my mind as a young woman. I even have the sex talk before I got married

28:01To Connor and I was a virgin

28:06How to figure it out on my own

28:09My

28:10Wedding night should have come from a horror movie. That was a horrible horrible night

28:16It was a conversation that was never had so we both just went in this blindly. Okay, maybe not a horror movie a comedy

28:27I don't know if it's a Utah thing

28:29but no like when I like would watch these movies and they like hold the banana and like put the condom on the banana I'm

28:35like

28:36Never at my school. I

28:39Remember at your shower that your friends through you. Yeah, the bachelorette party

28:44I mean you had to know so you guys had penis cookies. I was kind of like what is going on?

28:48I I had just had another baby. She was a toddler cut me some slack. You should have taught me how you had the baby

28:57Obviously you figured it out I wish

29:00That I had conversations with my mom about

29:04Topics such as this and it's hard because you know

29:07My mom was raised in the church and her mom didn't talk to her about it. We just never did talk about it

29:13So I just took that as oh, this is just something you don't talk about. It was this is shameful

29:18Horrible don't ever do this. Don't even think about it

29:21If you do your horrible person like that's literally what I believe

29:25If I could go back in time

29:26I would check that off of my parenting list to make sure that I

29:30Asked if there was anything that you wanted to know that you didn't know

29:34Oh, I love you mom. The sex is great now if you're wondering

29:41And you know what made it better

29:43Twice so I wish my mom had talked to me about it, but I'm so happy that she's listening now

29:49Sex can be viewed and religion is like disgusting but times are changing

29:54It's a new generation coming in with mom talk. We're here. We're embracing our sexuality

30:00It's empowering and it's exciting and it's fun

30:04I

30:05Think I'm gonna do it. I think I'm gonna promote at the vibrator

30:09You hate it. You hate it so much

30:13Well, there's lots of things. I don't agree with

30:16But that's okay

30:18The cycle ends here. I'm going to have this conversation because it needs to be had maybe I'll send you one

30:26It's okay

30:34Yeah

30:43Be careful watch your step this slushy

30:52You guys sit right over here I'm doing well, how are you guys good? Thank you so much. This is so this is cool. Oh, yeah

30:59This is awesome. Thank you. So you're welcome. Thank you

31:03So who's going to the baby shower invited my family

31:08Your family and then I think mostly all of my close mom friends are coming like they'll be there

31:12Is it all the mom talk girls and stuff? Yeah, I'm talking. How was a

31:17Macy didn't she go to the flower shop with her? It was good. We kind of just caught up

31:21She asked about how we were doing. Oh, she's still talking shit

31:24Like always no. Yeah, that's all she does. She doesn't like me. It's not that she doesn't like you

31:31It's like she's been the one friend that I've opened up to about things. So she's of course just no no, she's petty

31:38I'm sorry, like like there's a difference like I've opened up to my friends to Taylor

31:43She doesn't like any picture you post of us like she's so petty. She won't even like the picture

31:49Who does that? Sorry, that's weird. I don't know where she seems like she has this right to like cuz I can find in her

31:58She's the only person you can fight in

32:01I don't find a lot of people

32:03But I haven't even tried. I am scared of friendships right now. Like just like kind of like I'm scared of like a

32:09Marriage and everything like just from everything that's gone on like I am scared to have close friends

32:15I really am because the close friends that I had the last five years were not even really my friends and we're gone in the

32:19Snap of the fingers Macy was one of the first ones to come and be my friend. I

32:24Have screwed up with mom talk twice now first the scandal and then my arrest. So I do feel

32:31on-the-outs

32:32insecure and

32:34Probably a little bit judged

32:35I don't know all of their intentions and I don't think you ever really do know your friendships until

32:41Something happens and then you find out the hard way. I don't want there to be drama

32:45And so I'm hoping that mom talk they will kind of give me another shot and we can all have a fresh start together

33:01I

33:13Said thank you

33:18Well, this feels so weird oh

33:21Look, he's like mom. No, you can't do it buddy. It's Himalayan salt

33:27Supposed to be really good for your immune system. So it's like anytime my kids are sick or if I'm sick like I'm like

33:32I need to go to a salt cave. You eat it

33:35my kids do

33:38Okay, wait, what are you wearing to Taylor's baby shower? I don't know if I'm gonna go to that

33:43Why I don't have that kind of relationship with her we've cultivated this relationship online, but

33:50We don't have one in real life. I don't even think she'd care the whole time. I've known her

33:54It's always been give give give and it's never been reciprocated and I'm just kind of like well, then why am I?

34:00Why am I still giving why am I still supporting? Why am I still entertaining this relationship when there's nothing even there?

34:07Like I know it's gonna be fun, but it's like and I don't want to do that anymore

34:11I want to lead mom talk back in the direction that it was originally founded on I

34:18Am NOT supporting this fake friendship that we don't have anymore

34:21I just feel like I have to walk around on eggshells. Yeah, every time I'm around her

34:28Because of this audience that she has on social media. It's like I'm so intimidated by it

34:33I'm like, oh my god, like look what she did to her best friends. Look how she fucked them over

34:38when this whole mom talk swinger drama happened it was

34:43Immediate crash we were all in this massive group chat

34:46and then people are just fighting back and forth and friendships were torn apart because of what Taylor was saying and

34:52It sucks that she even allowed something like that to happen online. It looks like we're all the bestest of friends

34:58It's like but we're not all she cares about is herself. I genuinely feel that way

35:03This is definitely typical Whitney

35:05She will have problems with somebody have tension and she just wants to avoid it rather than to talk to them every time

35:12we're together she has to create a tick-tock and it has to make sure that like she's shown as the Queen Bee and we're

35:17All like these girls who kiss her ass and like her pee and I'm like, I'm not I'm done with that facade

35:21I don't want to entertain it anymore. I'm out

35:24I'm not really sure why Whitney would consider not going to this especially just because one of the purposes of our group and mom talk

35:31Is that we come together and we support each other

35:33Through all the things that we're going through in life. She was getting a divorce

35:37She was having an affair. She got arrested. I'm done with that

35:42I feel like all of us in mom talks really important that we all stay strong and united

35:46It makes me honestly really worried that Whitney might not show up. I

35:50Don't trust her. I don't feel safe around her. I don't want anything to do with her and I think that's fine

36:12With the Queen Bee

36:15Actually, I have an idea

36:16What if I'm gonna put all the greenery on here and then we'll just keep this one the green. Hey Taylor

36:22What did you want to do with the welcome sign?

36:25And yeah, we have easels we could put it on what do you think would look best?

36:28I think if you used an easel, let's do that. Yes. Yes

36:35I'm kind of nervous

36:38With the arrest, I don't know necessarily if the girls did judge or have any opinions about it. I

36:45Came back to the church. Try to get my life together and just kind of redeem myself and I'm like finally getting there

36:52We're we're moving. We're progressing, but I feel like I

36:57Have distanced myself from you know, all of my friends

37:00I don't know who's gonna show up and who's not but I do want them there for me

37:05I don't want to do this alone. I'm stressed. I'm like anxiety attack

37:36We're spread like fire, but a good liar can't stay

37:43Immune

38:02Despite my issues with Dakota. I know it's important to be able to show up for Taylor for her baby's shower

38:07She has gone through so much in the last year. I'll make sure she feels loved and supported

38:11I think when Taylor sees as a group of girls rallying around her

38:13She'll be more excited and happy to come back to mom talks that can all start making videos again and be a united front

38:22I

38:23Am here to fully support her on her journey and whatever her journey looks like

38:28Even if she's taken a step back lately, which I totally understand and respect

38:33I have supported Taylor through all of the ups and downs

38:37Throughout mom talk and this is no different

38:41Belly with the ribbon you are gonna cut how big you think Taylor is and then whoever is the closest to guessing

38:48How big she is wins a prize. I just like he's gonna be such a sweet guy. Yes. He's gonna be really cute

38:55What was

38:57I think he'll be a great dad. The baby daddy part is where I think we worry a little bit

39:02There's just like stuff in the past. I think so bugs me when you're at that event

39:06Saying like if you like they said like you're I think before or something

39:12Okay

39:13You guys have your ribbons. Yeah, I would love to check for you guys do a check

39:18awkward

39:22I'm gonna put my hand on your belly. I love it. Do you guys know where Whitney is? Oh, it's Whitney not here yet

39:27I don't know

39:32Is she coming last night I was with her and she's not coming wait what

39:40Yeah, oh did she tell her coming? No, and I told her maybe she should but she said that Taylor's probably not even gonna notice

39:47I am shocked that when he is not coming to the baby shower at the same time

39:52I know she's not a big fan of Taylor right now

39:54So it doesn't surprise me, but she should at least send her a text

39:58I feel like this is sending a message to Taylor that she does not want to be friends and she does not care about

40:02Taylor you should say why I don't want to go into like too much detail

40:06But she just says that she just doesn't want to be involved with Taylor

40:10Can I get a pic with all of you girls? Is everyone here? Um, I think so Whitney. Where's Whitney? Oh, yeah

40:17I don't know

40:19Did she say she wasn't coming? Um, I think I guess she told Laila last night she couldn't come

40:27Why isn't she coming I

40:31Wait, you're not coming. You're like the worst liar ever. I know

40:37You guys don't have a friendship so she felt like she didn't need to come today because you guys don't have a friendship

40:42Oh, that's news to me. I don't want to be the one to have to bring it up to the messenger

40:47I was just hoping you wouldn't notice so I wouldn't say he's not here

40:51the tension between Whitney and Taylor is

40:55very

40:56Tangible with them at all times

40:59It's like you're either team Taylor or you are team Whitney

41:02I feel like they both love the spotlight in different ways

41:06But they both have this very alpha female energy and that seems to be the bigger issue

41:28Hey Whitney, yeah, this is Leanne tase mom. How's it going?

41:34Good I was just calling because I noticed you weren't here. Your mom called Whitney. Oh my god

41:44Taylor's mom called Whitney. I would die at my mom. What is going on?

41:49I

41:52Don't know I think that's more of a conversation between me and Taylor

42:00There's a clear division in mom talk sinners first Saints

42:05Zach's parents are very conservative. They don't smoke. They don't drink. I thought it was a graduation party guys are all going

42:12I

42:19Didn't know we were uninvited that was to hurt you

42:22It's kind of like the main girls in a sense because it's like them three against the world to me

42:26I have a gift for you, though

42:31This was completely intimate and off the table

42:35It is very hypocritical because she wants to create the safe space with mom talk

42:39I just think it's below the belt

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