- 5/15/2025
The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Season 2 Episode 1
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00:00Oh my god, I am gonna lose my mind.
00:02Bless that we can clear the air and get even closer.
00:06If you poke the bear, the claws are coming out.
00:08Oh shit, I just woke up a monster.
00:15There was more to this story?
00:17They dig at some backlash from the church.
00:19And reputations in their community.
00:21Radically changing the image of Mormon culture.
00:24Videos continuously going viral.
00:26And it's a double-edged sword.
00:31No!
00:33Let this be a lesson for all of you!
00:36They all have boob jobs.
00:38I think I'm gonna be a saint in the center.
00:40If she comes for me, I will absolutely dominate her.
00:43I'm lying.
00:44The truth always comes around.
00:45It does, unfortunately.
00:46You have no idea what's coming for you.
00:48You're keeping receipts.
00:50Who knows when you're gonna unlock that vault and just sabotage someone.
00:53Just touch my wife.
00:56This is the real her before.
00:59Let's fucking move past this.
01:02We all are traumatized.
01:04But we don't go around hurting the people we love.
01:06Do I do petty shit? Yes.
01:08Gotta go head on in the storm.
01:10You wanna call me a shitty wife?
01:12Let's talk about you.
01:13Someone's gonna win and someone's gonna lose.
01:15And it's gonna destroy the group as a whole.
01:16You should literally be in jail.
01:18I will create a whole other fucking mom talk.
01:20Not on my watch, bitch.
01:22What is even scarier than you are?
01:28Fuck.
01:59Yes!
02:14Ready?
02:15Okay.
02:16What has life been like?
02:17What's changed?
02:18What's the same?
02:19Tell us everything.
02:21Uh...
02:22Well, this will be freeing.
02:23Um...
02:29Hey!
02:32The sex goddess is here!
02:34Wait. One boob might be bigger.
02:37Is that better?
02:42What's the hot goss over here?
02:44What's the 411?
02:45What's the 411?
02:46What's everybody been talking about?
02:49We are at the Gracie Lu Cowboy Pillows event.
02:51And I'm so excited to be here with all the girls
02:53and just enjoy a fun influencer event.
02:55Western themes.
02:56So dressing up for this event is the perfect way
02:58to kick off one of my favorite holidays,
03:00which is Halloween.
03:01Sometimes there's a misconception.
03:03Do Mormons celebrate Halloween?
03:04Yes, we do.
03:05And Mom Talk loves it as well.
03:07Is it a bad bowl or a good bowl?
03:09I have to pee. Maybe I should pee first.
03:11We got mom bladders.
03:17That's harder than I thought.
03:19How do I hold on?
03:20Okay, let's be sexy.
03:22Life has been...
03:25a blur.
03:28The last few months, Mom Talk has grown even bigger.
03:31It's become a nationwide trend.
03:33We're seeing women doing their Mom Talk groups
03:36all across the U.S., which is so crazy.
03:38I love what Mom Talk is doing right now.
03:40The way that we are trying to modernize people in the church.
03:43We've helped move the needle in the way that Mom Talk
03:46intended to when it comes to the patriarchy.
03:50The brand deals have been way up.
03:52My husband, his entire yearly salary
03:54is how much I make on one brand deal.
03:56So, Jace is in his full stay-at-home dad era right now,
04:00and he's loving it.
04:01I think the perceptions of Mormons
04:03has definitely changed worldwide.
04:05We're just living our life,
04:06making videos and smashing men's hearts.
04:09Just kidding.
04:11Yes, we did get both good and bad responses.
04:14With the church, we'll say,
04:16we ruffled our feathers.
04:18I do think the church had an issue
04:20with Mom Talk trying to break the patriarchy,
04:23but YOLO. It's fine.
04:25We weren't bashing the church or talking about it negatively.
04:28We were just shining a light on the things
04:30that do need to change.
04:31Mom Talk is going to continue to push the church
04:34and the people and the culture to modernize towards today.
04:38And if anyone tries to shit on Mom Talk,
04:40they will be ready to fight.
04:42It's very on brand for us.
04:44Woo!
04:45Hey, Jen!
04:46What's up, girl?
04:47Are you good at this?
04:48Whoa!
04:50My gosh!
04:51There is no sexy way to get off that.
04:53No, it's not going to happen.
04:55But I make it so hard.
04:57Wait, is that Whitney?
04:58Yes, it is.
04:59Yeah.
05:11Hi!
05:12Oh, my gosh!
05:13This is so cute.
05:14Oh, thank you.
05:17New Whitney, new hair.
05:18That's how it goes.
05:19Hey!
05:20Uh-oh.
05:21What's up, guys?
05:22How are you?
05:23I'm good.
05:24How are you?
05:25Good.
05:26Yeah, how's the pregnancy?
05:27Oh, God.
05:28I'm, like, two weeks.
05:29Please get this out of me.
05:31Whitney, Whitney, Whitney.
05:33Whitney was deemed kind of the villain,
05:35and she earned every bit of that title.
05:38She didn't attend Taylor's baby shower
05:40or Macy's baby mama event.
05:42She has unfollowed us, blocked us, ignored us.
05:47She has upset every single person in the group.
05:50Whitney is no longer a part of MomTalk,
05:52and rightfully so,
05:53and she's the one that removed herself from the group.
05:59Whitney is definitely on the outs.
06:01This is the circle.
06:02She's out here.
06:04So, how does it feel to be pinned as the villain?
06:08Ooh.
06:09Okay, I think everyone's pissed
06:11because I haven't apologized for leaving MomTalk,
06:14and especially with me saying, like,
06:16good luck without me, like, oopsies.
06:19Do you have any regrets?
06:22No, I think if there was,
06:24then I would probably say it to them.
06:26No one owes Whitney anything
06:28when her behavior is the way that it is.
06:30Exactly.
06:31She's a little bit of a narcissist.
06:32I have no interest in having a friend like that.
06:33I don't want drama.
06:34I don't want bad feelings.
06:35I just don't want to be her friend.
06:36There you go. Get in front.
06:37There you go.
06:38Even though I'm not in MomTalk,
06:40this is my livelihood.
06:41I have to come to these things.
06:42I think everybody has sticks up their butts.
06:45Has the fame already gone to our heads?
06:48Hi.
06:49Yee-haw, baby.
06:50Yee-haw, babes.
06:51Come on in.
06:52Why did I...
06:53You?
06:54Why did I straight up...
06:56I sat on the magazine.
06:58Yeah, smart.
07:00Anyone have some tobacco?
07:02I got some chew.
07:03I got some spud.
07:05I get really into the role play.
07:07I know you do.
07:08Oh, Lord.
07:09Is that Miranda?
07:10What the hell?
07:12Oh, shit.
07:13What?
07:14It can't be.
07:15Shut up.
07:16Miranda really came?
07:17Holy shit.
07:18Wait, she looks hot.
07:19She looks hot.
07:20Ladies.
07:22Hello.
07:24Miranda is Taylor's ex-best friend,
07:27and she's one of the original MomTalkers
07:29from when Taylor started the group.
07:31Miranda and her ex-husband, Chase,
07:33were the couple heavily involved
07:35in the swinging with Taylor and her ex-husband.
07:37Taylor started talking about it.
07:39No one was innocent.
07:40Everyone has hooked up with, like,
07:41everyone in the situation.
07:43It came out.
07:44It became public,
07:45and it was explosive on the Internet.
07:46Miranda and her ex-husband panicked.
07:48She left MomTalk,
07:49and they denied everything,
07:50which made Taylor look worse.
07:51Last I heard, Miranda got divorced,
07:53and she's back in town.
07:54I think it's pretty ballsy of her to show up
07:56to this influencer event.
07:59Hi, MomTalk.
08:00Did you miss me?
08:02Can I sit with you guys?
08:04My name is Miranda McWhorter,
08:06and you might recognize me
08:07from being one of the MomTalk OGs.
08:10Just kidding.
08:11Obviously, people know me
08:13from the whole swinging scandal.
08:15Taylor's a very vocal person,
08:16and everybody has heard her side of the scandal,
08:19but I'm finally here to tell mine.
08:21What are you... What's going on?
08:23Yeah, I know.
08:24The last time I feel like
08:27anything MomTalk-related,
08:28you're like, I don't know if I'd ever...
08:30I know. I'm eating my words now.
08:32You're on the show.
08:33What's going on right now?
08:34Wait, I need to hear everything.
08:35You're divorced.
08:36Like, did you see it coming?
08:38Yeah. I mean, I think when I made the decision,
08:40I was sure about it,
08:41and it just was not gonna work as a relationship.
08:45I had tried for so long,
08:47and I realized that it was...
08:48You know, I think our kids would be better off
08:50if we did end up cutting ties when we did.
08:53So did you initiate it?
08:54I did.
08:55I have a question.
08:56So if you're here, like, talking to everyone,
08:58are you, like, trying to join MomTalk again?
09:00Like, what's the contradiction?
09:01I feel like that's the only explanation.
09:03I don't see another explanation.
09:04Yes.
09:05I think it all comes back to the fact
09:07that I'm not married anymore.
09:09Like, for our marriage,
09:10I just didn't think it was the best thing.
09:12You're here, so we're just gonna go all out.
09:14Was there a part of you that was trying to protect,
09:16like, the lie around the swinging thing?
09:18Were you involved in the swinging?
09:21Well, the thing is, is, like,
09:23the height of what I was ever involved in
09:25was, like, playing spin the bottle
09:27and, like, kissing other people.
09:29And so it was very jarring for me
09:32for Taylor to come out and say, like,
09:34everyone was hooking up with everyone
09:36because that was simply not the case at all.
09:38We've all heard the exact opposite.
09:40I'm so confused.
09:41No one had sex ever, period.
09:42I kind of want to hear from, like, Taylor and you
09:45to hear the story
09:46because we're hearing two completely different things.
09:48I will go to my grave.
09:50What?
09:51My mind's just been blown.
09:53That's crazy.
09:54It's pretty wild that after so much time,
09:57Miranda has been completely silent
09:59about the swinger scandal,
10:00and she's finally coming out and talking about it
10:04and admitting to things.
10:05But it is a little strange to me
10:07because her story and Taylor's version of the story
10:11are not completely lining up,
10:12so I'm a little confused as to who's telling the truth.
10:15You've never touched a wiener.
10:17Never touched a wiener.
10:18Never touched a wiener. Not one time.
10:20A wiener.
10:21Even with your mouth.
10:22Yeah. Your mouth never came in contact with one.
10:24Oh, my God.
10:25Really?
10:26So who's telling the truth?
10:27I have zero reason to believe that Taylor's lying
10:29because she's been nothing but honest to me
10:32and to the world
10:33about her details and the swinging in her personal life,
10:36and this has been something
10:37that has eaten Taylor up for years.
10:39I know how hard it is for Taylor,
10:41and I want to protect her,
10:42and I don't want the lies from Miranda
10:45to create cracks in the group.
10:49Oh, speak of the devil.
10:51I'm trying to find my girls.
10:53Oh, my goodness. Sorry, guys. I am late.
10:55Is this the new mom talk?
10:56You guys look so good.
10:57Oh, yeah.
10:59He did it at first.
11:01I do feel very shocked when I see Miranda.
11:06Pretty uncomfortable, I will say,
11:08because I haven't really talked to her since everything.
11:12So...
11:14And I don't know why she's here, I guess.
11:17I'm very confused.
11:18Tay, do you want to go here?
11:19You can go here, and we'll move all this.
11:21Do you want me to sit right by Miranda?
11:23She was one of the girls
11:25participating in the swinging scandal.
11:27Her husband was the one that came and told me
11:29that he had feelings for me.
11:30That's where the story gets confusing
11:31because I stole my best friend's husband,
11:34but that's never been the case.
11:35Miranda was my best friend.
11:36I would have never done that to her ever.
11:38I won't bite you, and I won't kiss you, I promise.
11:41Not this time.
11:44Oh, wait, we didn't clarify that, so you guys kissed.
11:47What?
11:48Like, you're asking if we have?
11:52How are you feeling?
11:53Horrible. How are you guys?
11:54I'm sorry.
11:58It's been a lot, guys.
11:59Miranda and I have yet to conversate
12:02about our whole situation,
12:03but I did not want to hash any of this out today
12:05because I'm exhausted of what I'm dealing with
12:08in my own relationship with Dakota.
12:10So Dakota was involved with the girl
12:13during our early dating.
12:15He swore that nothing really had happened besides kissing,
12:18and then he finally came forward after all this time
12:20saying that there was more to that story.
12:23I was lied to for two years.
12:27I have been in pure sadness,
12:30but I feel like the ego's kind of kicking in,
12:32being like, I'm actually nobody's fucking second choice,
12:35so if that's what you wanted, I'm...
12:37I feel like old Taylor's coming back.
12:39Do you not see it?
12:40I feel like so betrayed.
12:41I'm in denial that this is even real right now.
12:44And I don't know if I even want to move forward.
12:48People have been doing you dirty for too long.
12:52Yeah.
13:10How are you feeling about everything with you and Zach?
13:13As for my relationship with Zach,
13:17it's been a few months of straight hell since Vegas.
13:21You say I'm not gonna be married to someone
13:23who doesn't have values and morals.
13:25He treats you like shit.
13:26That's gross.
13:27I really don't... I don't really care.
13:30Currently, we are separated.
13:35I never thought I would get to this point.
13:38I've decided to come back to Utah
13:42and be back with Mom Talk.
13:52Today, Zach asked if he could come down to Utah
13:55to talk to me.
13:57I was pretty firm about us being separated
13:59so I can figure out what I need
14:01and just what's best for our relationship.
14:04It's hard because a couple months ago,
14:07Zach and I were committed to going to New York
14:10for med school.
14:11I honestly think you're gonna love New York.
14:13Do you think I'll be missing Mom Talk?
14:15I honestly don't.
14:17But then Zach got accepted to Arizona.
14:19We ended up moving to Arizona.
14:20Things for Zach and I continue to be pretty rocky.
14:24For me to want to fight for a marriage,
14:27I need to feel like he's putting my feelings before his.
14:34Hi.
14:35Hi, baby.
14:36Hi.
14:40Can I come in?
14:41Yeah, sure.
14:42Where do you want me to put this?
14:44You just put it right there.
14:45Yeah.
14:48This place looks nice.
14:49Isn't it cute?
14:50Yeah.
14:52If you don't mind, I'd like it to be my new spot, too.
15:01The last couple months have been hard, obviously.
15:03Been really hard.
15:07I know I messed up.
15:09Like, the way I treated you, like,
15:11no matter what you had done,
15:12those things should have never been said,
15:14and I have to live with that the rest of my life.
15:17I want to prove to you that I love you
15:20and that, like, I am a good husband,
15:22I am a good father.
15:23I want to fight for our marriage,
15:25and that's why I'm here.
15:26After Vegas, it felt like the whole world was against us
15:32and wanted us to get a divorce.
15:34I had so many regrets about how I had acted
15:37and the way things had gone down.
15:39I definitely feel like there's still a lot of work to do
15:44as far as changing and becoming who I want to be.
15:48I'm in therapy.
15:49I'm working on, like,
15:50as long as you want to be here and you love her,
15:52you need to let her live her life the way she wants
15:54or she's never going to be happy.
15:55So I'm here letting you live your life the way you want
15:58so you can be happy.
16:01For so long,
16:02I think he truly believed that, like,
16:04his feelings were more important.
16:06Within the Mormon church,
16:07it's very expected for the women to be submissive
16:11to their husbands,
16:12but for me, whether this helps me become
16:15a stronger member of the church
16:17or maybe turn away from the church,
16:20I think in order for this marriage to work,
16:23we have to be equals.
16:25I want to fight for our marriage,
16:27but I feel like I've been blaming myself
16:30for so many years.
16:31Thinking that I was the issue or I was too sensitive.
16:36I feel like this is, like,
16:37the first time in my life
16:38that I need to put my foot down.
16:39Like, I want my partner to know me so well
16:45that they'll think of me and my feelings
16:48before anything else.
16:50And anyone who doesn't respect that,
16:53I, like, they're not going to be a part of my life.
16:59Even if I were to have gone to Chippendales,
17:03danced with those men,
17:06I'm still the mother of your children.
17:09I'm still your wife.
17:12Do you know what I'm saying?
17:14Yeah.
17:15It's time that I put my foot down.
17:20I'm choosing mom talk.
17:22Yeah.
17:23And if that means I want to go to Chippendales,
17:25I can go to Chippendales.
17:26And if you don't like that,
17:28I think my actions speak a lot more than my words.
17:32And, like, I'm here.
17:35Like, you know, I reached out to my dean
17:38and put in my application to leave medical school.
17:41And my feelings towards mom talk
17:44haven't, honestly, completely changed.
17:47But I feel like a lot of our marriage,
17:49I've made it about me and the things I want to do,
17:51and you've kind of just supported me in that.
17:54I don't know what I'm gonna do with my life, to be honest.
17:57Yeah.
17:58But I'm here to support you
18:00and support your career.
18:03You're willing to give me a chance,
18:05like, that's all I'm asking for,
18:07to show you.
18:09I'm asking if I can stay.
18:12Um...
18:14The thing that I'm worried about is,
18:17does a part of you still feel like
18:19you want to go back to do medical school?
18:22Yeah, I mean, I do have a year leave of absence,
18:25so it is possible, but for now,
18:27I'm just focusing on us.
18:29Like, I need someone right now.
18:32Well, I'm here.
18:34I know, but you've been a dick to me.
18:37I know, but you've been a dick to me.
18:40I'm here.
18:41I know, but you've been a dick to me.
18:45Yeah, yeah, I know, sweetie.
18:49I know why you're mad at me,
18:51and not only that, but your friends,
18:53the Mom Talk girls.
18:54To be honest, it is a little bit hard
18:56to be a part of Mom Talk right now
18:59because of all of that.
19:01Do you think you'd want to have a conversation
19:04with some of the girls?
19:07I mean, hearing the things that they said about me,
19:12a lot of those things were all, like, blatant lies,
19:14but I reached out to every single one of the girls.
19:17Do you guys want to hear the voice memo?
19:19Wait, you have it?
19:20I have it.
19:21Hey, Jessie, this is Zach.
19:22Just wanted to send you guys a quick voice message.
19:24Now, obviously, I, you know,
19:26never plan on those texts being seen,
19:28but they were, and regardless,
19:30I shouldn't be...
19:31I never planned on those texts being seen.
19:33Is he only apologizing because he got caught?
19:35Anyways, thank you so much.
19:36Hope you guys are doing well.
19:37This is, like, a copy and paste of what he said.
19:39It is, yeah.
19:40Like, it was, like, a script.
19:41And it's chat GPT.
19:42No, 100%.
19:44And did they respond?
19:46No, I, I, because, I mean,
19:49I realized what I did was wrong.
19:50Obviously, those texts were never meant to be shared,
19:52but still, like, I shouldn't have been
19:54saying those things.
19:57For me to let you back into my life
20:00and for us to give this another shot,
20:03I think I'm gonna need a lot of time
20:05to just think about this.
20:08So I think that we should keep the Arizona home
20:11until changes are being made.
20:13Leaving med school isn't enough.
20:18So with that being said,
20:19if you are gonna live here,
20:21what changes are you going to make?
20:25Obviously, you can't change overnight.
20:27I think this is gonna be a long journey.
20:29I definitely have a lot of expectations
20:32for him this time around.
20:34And there's gonna be some boundaries
20:36and guidelines moving forward.
20:38I'm trusting you that you can show up for me.
20:44Yeah.
20:45I'm trusting you that you'll be on my side.
20:50Meaning you won't talk over me,
20:51but meaning you'll hear me out.
20:53Meaning you'll understand and validate me.
20:55Yeah.
20:56Meaning that you will generally think of me
20:59and my feelings before your own feelings,
21:01which I know is going to be very, very hard
21:03with your personality.
21:04But that's what I need.
21:06That's what I want.
21:07And every woman deserves that.
21:12I do believe Jen and I were meant to be together,
21:15and I felt that since the day I met her.
21:17And I will continue to fight for that
21:19as long as she also wants the same.
21:21I think a lot of people who are raised in the church
21:23are raised in a particular way,
21:25and they don't even really realize
21:26some of these patterns.
21:27I put a lot of pressure on myself
21:29and Jen to be a certain way.
21:31I'm not currently going to church,
21:34and I'm hoping moving forward
21:36that we can just be a little bit more authentic to ourselves.
21:39Can I have a hug?
21:40You can have a handshake.
21:42I'm just kidding.
21:43Okay.
21:46I love you.
21:47I love you.
21:48At least we're not going through
21:49what Dakota and Taylor are going through.
21:55Hi, I'm Taylor.
21:56When I was four years old,
21:57I met my dad for the first time.
21:58He said, what's up, kid?
21:59And that was the only thing I got.
22:01And then I brought the gummy bears.
22:19Hello.
22:20Hi.
22:21How are you?
22:22Good, how are you?
22:23You look so cute.
22:24Yeah, right.
22:25You do.
22:26We match the same vibe.
22:27We did.
22:28Cozy.
22:29Sweats.
22:30Cozy comfort.
22:31Yeah, I'm always in sweats,
22:32so that's how it is for me.
22:33How are you feeling?
22:34Not good.
22:36I'm, like, obviously freaking out.
22:40Right after Ever was born,
22:42Dakota and I were living together
22:44and in bliss with our new baby,
22:46and I was even considering engagement,
22:48and then I learned that he was lying this entire time.
22:51If this is stating that I've cheated on you
22:54since I've dated you, not true.
22:56Dakota is a liar.
22:58Big shocker.
23:00So I talked to Jenna earlier this year.
23:02Hi, is this Jenna?
23:04I just have some questions about you and Dakota.
23:07And once I told Taylor about it,
23:09she wanted to kind of push back and hold off,
23:11especially until she had the baby.
23:13Today I am meeting with Jenna.
23:16I'm ready to finally get the full story from both ends.
23:21My point here today is to get clarity on all of it.
23:25I have dates down to the T in my brain
23:28of what was said and what was done,
23:30so I know what he told me when he was at my house
23:33and everything, so...
23:35I've done a lot of shitty things,
23:37and maybe this was my karma.
23:39But I feel like I've had my karma already,
23:41so, like, why am I still getting karma?
23:43I don't think it's karma.
23:44I think it's just, like, you're, like,
23:46in the space where it's time to, like, move forward.
23:49Should we sit?
23:51Yeah.
23:52We just need to relax for a second.
23:54Please don't.
23:55I feel, like, really sick.
23:56I know, it's going to be hard,
23:57but it's, like, you need to know this
23:59to move forward in either direction.
24:01Because you already know what they're going to be about.
24:03No, I don't. Like, yeah, but I don't.
24:05This will be, like, the closure you need
24:08to, like, close this chapter, whether it goes well or bad.
24:11It's, like, at least you know,
24:12and it's not going to eat you alive anymore.
24:17Yeah, we're good.
24:19Life's great.
24:20If Jenna confirms what Dakota has told me,
24:22I do feel like we can move forward.
24:26But if he is still lying, I'm done.
24:29Don't be a bitch.
24:30Don't be a bitch.
24:31Don't be a bitch.
24:32I set this bitch in motion, she's emotional.
24:36I ain't trying to make this conversational.
24:40If she were really something, she'd still have him though.
24:45I'm an ex-ho, ex-raider.
24:47You want him, but I made him.
24:58Everything's going to be great.
24:59Don't worry.
25:01Okay, I'll get it.
25:10Hello!
25:11Hi.
25:12Come on in.
25:13Glad you made it okay.
25:14Yes.
25:16Um, you can just sit over there.
25:31How's it going?
25:32Good.
25:33How are you?
25:34I'm okay.
25:35Yeah?
25:36Yeah.
25:39I can't even tell you how incredibly awkward this is.
25:42Like, oh, gosh, I don't even know what to do.
25:45Do I turn a song on?
25:47Do we hold hands and sing?
25:49Like, what do we do?
25:50I don't even know.
25:51It's the most awkward thing in my entire life.
25:53It's, like, dead silent.
25:55So, we're going to do this.
25:57Okay.
25:58It's, like, dead silent.
26:00It's, like, so uncomfortable.
26:01Yeah, I know.
26:02I hate it.
26:03Me too.
26:04But it's not you.
26:06It's the situation.
26:07Yeah.
26:08And you're just, unfortunately, the one that was in the situation.
26:11Yeah.
26:12Like, I feel like I, like, needed this for, like, so long.
26:14Yeah.
26:15And I feel like I have such, like, so many trust issues and, like, anxiety and all the things.
26:21So, like, I just want you to feel good, you know?
26:23Yeah, well, thank you.
26:24I knew that there was something off, and I just wanted truth.
26:27Yeah, and I would feel the same.
26:29I'll show you all the texts and all the things.
26:34Yeah, that would actually be great.
26:35Okay.
26:36I'm shaking.
26:38I'm glad that Jenna is coming forward and showing her messages, because it's not an easy thing to do.
26:43It's honestly incredibly awkward.
26:45And she basically said she would do it because she wouldn't want to be in Taylor's shoes, and she would want to know the truth.
26:55The silence.
26:57This is going to take a minute, so I want to say sorry.
26:59Yeah.
27:00You guys can keep talking.
27:03But, yeah.
27:07Did you hang out August 3rd? Do you remember?
27:09There was one time we went to the trampoline park, one time we went to the dinosaur museum.
27:13Yeah.
27:14And then one time he came over and we watched a movie.
27:17What did you guys do that day?
27:19What did we say?
27:20It's saying, do you, like, want to come to me? You sent him your address.
27:25No, he said on my way.
27:26Okay.
27:27The next day.
27:28Yeah, he did. Yeah.
27:29Okay.
27:30Yeah, he said he never hung out with you that day.
27:32Oh, okay. Well...
27:34So he spent the night that night?
27:36I don't know exactly if it was that night. I do know that he spent the night.
27:39More than once.
27:42Okay.
27:43Okay, what did you do the first night you spent the night? Did you do anything with him?
27:46It says, I really hope you don't hate me. I'm sorry if that went...
27:50If we went too far last night.
27:52We never had sex, for sure. I'm...
27:54It's okay, you can be straight up.
27:56So I feel like we did a little bit more than just making out.
27:58I feel like we just, like, probably did maybe hand stuff.
28:02I don't even think I would have done it to him, though, because being raised Mormon, I just was like, so I'm sinning?
28:07So he's saying, hey, do you want...
28:10Do you want to come over? I'm just hanging with friends. So did you go to him that night?
28:13August 4th?
28:145th.
28:15No, I didn't go that night.
28:16But clearly he invited you over.
28:18Yeah.
28:21He was, like, texting me all day this day. He came over to your house.
28:23And he's saying, thank you for letting me crash at your house.
28:25And he came over that night to my house and spent the night and fucked me.
28:28So, yeah.
28:31He apologized for everything.
28:33Like, that night.
28:35It's so awful. This is actually so awful.
28:37He definitely lied a ton.
28:41So he deleted a lot?
28:42Yeah.
28:44Now I get why he did it.
28:45Yeah.
28:46So he deleted a lot?
28:47Yeah.
28:49Now I get why he was so terrified of all of this.
28:53I found out a lot of things that were not being told the truth this entire time.
28:58He made it seem like she was the one that was always instigating and begging.
29:02No, it was him.
29:04He said he had just kissed her on the couch.
29:06Nope.
29:07He went on the couch, they hooked up on the couch, and then they went to the room, they hooked up.
29:11He's trying to hang out with her in the day, respecting her, apologizing because he went too far with her,
29:16which he didn't freaking even have sex with her, but he's apologizing to her.
29:21Where the fuck is my apology for hurting me that day?
29:24I was the night girl that you came over to at night.
29:28And you were asking her on date dates and telling her cute things.
29:33I feel like a piece of fucking trash.
29:36In our faith, we were taught to wait for the person that we want to marry and end up with.
29:42And I feel like, obviously, if I hadn't been sleeping with him that early on,
29:47I don't think I would have been as hurt.
29:49And it's why it's a guideline, because it's going to prevent these types of things from happening.
29:56I'm sorry.
29:57Jennifer.
29:58No, I'm sorry first.
30:00And it's like, not even you.
30:02That's what sucks.
30:03That's what sucks.
30:04So you posted a TikTok with him in your bathroom.
30:07And I just had this feeling in my chest, like, don't trust him, kind of.
30:11And I said, are you dating Taylor?
30:13And he told me, no, it's just for clout.
30:15And she's just helping me build my social media.
30:19He said that, that he was just seeing Taylor for clout.
30:22Yeah.
30:34I hate him.
30:45I'm so sorry.
30:47I hate it. I hate it.
30:51I just feel horrible for Taylor.
30:52Like, it's hard because I don't even know how to comfort her.
30:55I just feel for her.
30:56Like, I feel the pain that she's feeling.
30:58And like, I've never seen her like this.
31:00I'm over here asking him to hang out.
31:02And he's lying and saying I can't.
31:04And he's like texting her to hang out.
31:07And saying Jenna baked me.
31:14He made you sound desperate.
31:17And he's the one texting you.
31:19But at least you don't know.
31:20Like, your feelings were right.
31:21It's valid what you were feeling this whole time.
31:24How do you do that to a girl?
31:28It's okay.
31:31You're so strong.
31:32But I loved him. I loved him.
31:34I know.
31:35I know.
31:53What?
31:55It's just a spider.
31:57You see there's snow on the mountain.
31:58You look like us.
31:59She does?
32:00She actually has three.
32:01Well, she's about to have three.
32:03Hello.
32:04Hey.
32:05I definitely missed the friendships that came with Mom Talk.
32:08I'm really hoping to be able to reconnect with Whitney.
32:10And I've known Whitney for a few years now.
32:12And I did see her at the Cowboy Pillows event.
32:15But it has been a while since we've really been around one another.
32:19You look amazing.
32:20You look amazing.
32:22After the Cowboy Pillows event, I'm not sure where I stand with everybody.
32:26So, I'm starting with Whitney.
32:28I cannot believe it's as toasty as it is.
32:29I know.
32:30It was like so...
32:31Literally put all of us in hoodies.
32:32No, seriously.
32:33I'm like, I'm not even wearing anything under this.
32:35My kids aren't either.
32:36I'm like, I'm sweating.
32:37At least have a tank top.
32:38Gosh, I know.
32:39I mean, I guess I could lay out in my bra.
32:41There you go.
32:43I am one of the Mom Talk OGs.
32:45Taylor definitely, I feel like, ran the show.
32:48I think she's definitely the best at that.
32:50But Taylor had no plans of doing it by herself.
32:52So, I came.
32:53I first invited Whitney.
32:55And then it just kind of snowballed.
32:57Isn't Coco the same age as Liam?
32:59She just turned three.
33:00Oh my gosh, that's insane.
33:01Because I remember making videos when you were pregnant.
33:04Isn't that wild?
33:05I totally get why everyone's questioning and weird
33:07that Miranda's coming back into the fold right now.
33:09But like, genuinely, I just feel like I can relate with her
33:12because she obviously needed that time
33:14and is now having the courage or strength or whatever to come back.
33:19And also, can we please have a new villain?
33:21That person cannot be me.
33:25The cowboy pillows thing,
33:26they thought that you were still lying about this weighing scandal.
33:30I don't think that's a conversation I would want to have with the other mom.
33:33No, and honestly, it's none of our business, so who cares?
33:35Exactly.
33:36And that's the thing is that I'm just like,
33:37I've always wanted to resolve it with just Taylor
33:39because it's like, even though she felt the need to do it,
33:42come out and do it online,
33:43I'm also like, I would rather not solve it all online
33:47because there has been so much online.
33:49That's like the worst way to do it.
33:50Have we not learned our lesson yet?
33:51Yes.
33:52Holy hell.
33:53Honestly, overall, I just want it to be a twist.
33:55I know.
33:56I'm like, Taylor, girl, we've got to get you out of 2022.
33:58Yeah.
33:59Obviously, things were a little awkward at the event,
34:03so I am hosting a happy hour at my house
34:07just to kind of break the ice.
34:10I kind of want to really get more of a feel
34:13if the girls are open to the idea of me rejoining MomTalk or not.
34:17And I invited Whitney
34:20because I would love to have a friend's support.
34:23I'm curious.
34:24I'm curious to see where time takes us.
34:26Like the fact that you're coming back,
34:28I wonder if someone will leave.
34:30I'll make my own MomTalk with my kids.
34:42Suspect thinks that getting pregnant at 16 is a flex.
34:50Wait, you guys, I'm so nervous.
34:53This is so fun.
34:55I'm so scared.
34:56I can't wait to see Mikaela pee her pants.
34:58Have you guys gone to haunted houses before?
35:00I love this shit.
35:02I do it every year.
35:03I've been to many haunted houses.
35:05I love being scared.
35:06I don't really know if the church has a strong stance against it,
35:09but I do know that anything satanic
35:11that can invite in bad spirits is frowned upon.
35:14So haunted houses are probably the more playful side of that.
35:16You're going to be fine.
35:18It's going to be just fine.
35:20My mom literally never took me to haunted houses ever.
35:25I hate haunted houses so much.
35:27They give me the worst vibes.
35:28You're going to be fine.
35:29Just close your eyes.
35:30I don't know why I'm paying for these people
35:32to make my skin crawl when Whitney does it for free.
35:39You guys, I really don't like this.
35:41Oh God, this is going in my mouth.
35:43I just got an STD.
35:46Bye, Daddy.
35:48I feel like I'm going to have a heart attack.
35:49I'm not kidding.
35:56That's it.
35:57I'm going back to church.
36:01That was nuts.
36:03Yeah, you did it.
36:05We deserve a drink.
36:06Literally, I'm thirsty after that.
36:08Make it a double.
36:14Good job, guys.
36:15Cheers to surviving.
36:16MomTalk survived.
36:19We got two saints and two sinners.
36:21Who's going to win?
36:22We're going to pull you guys to the dark side.
36:24Speaking of, can we bring up happy hour?
36:26Yeah.
36:27Can we talk about that first?
36:28Yeah.
36:29Why are we all invited?
36:30So Miranda DMed us on Instagram out of the blue,
36:32all of the MomTalk girlies.
36:34And she wants to have us over for a happy hour.
36:36I don't understand why she's trying so hard to reach out
36:39now when she had three years to do it and never cared to.
36:43I'm just kidding.
36:44I know why.
36:46Because she wants that bag, baby.
36:48I think she burnt her bridges, and now she sees how well
36:51MomTalk is doing.
36:52And now she's just coming on back in at a convenient time,
36:55isn't she?
36:56But we can't let people in who just want clout.
36:58Anyone that comes in at this point is clout chasing.
37:00That just is what it is.
37:02Are you guys going to go?
37:04I don't really want to.
37:05Mikayla's like, am I forced to go?
37:07I'm like, anyways.
37:09You're like, I don't know why we're even entertaining
37:11any of this shit.
37:12For us, it's like, why would we want to have you back in,
37:15you know?
37:16I'm curious, like, what she'll say, though.
37:18Because I feel like the other day at the event,
37:20we were all shocked by what she was saying.
37:22Oh, I was having none of it.
37:23I was like, um.
37:24I feel like you guys were kissing her ass.
37:26What?
37:27No.
37:28Well, OK, I don't know Miranda.
37:29So that's the thing is, I don't know how to act.
37:31It's not me kissing ass or me being like,
37:34oh, I really want to give you a chance.
37:36It's that I literally don't give a shit about anything
37:39other than the truth.
37:40I want to hear both sides, if I'm being honest.
37:42Also, I'm not ever going to be the type of person
37:44that is just going to be, like, a bitch to be a bitch.
37:48No, I get that.
37:49No one's being a bitch.
37:50But also, again, like Whitney, it's a consequence
37:52of your own actions.
37:53If you're going to lie and then throw Taylor
37:55under the bus for two years, then obviously
37:57we're going to give it back.
37:58It was so weird.
37:59Is it a lie, though?
38:00I would love to sit down Taylor and Miranda together.
38:02Me too.
38:03And just talk to both of them.
38:04You've never heard the story from both of them
38:06at the same time?
38:07Yeah.
38:08Which, who knows how that's going to go?
38:09Because they're different stories.
38:10We're going to bring our popcorn,
38:11and we're just going to watch.
38:12What if they just start making out?
38:15I absolutely think that truth is the basis of trust.
38:18So they need to sit down and have this conversation
38:20and completely hash this out, especially
38:22if Miranda is going to be welcomed back into the fold.
38:24It's hard, because I feel like there's always
38:27her side, her side, and then the truth.
38:29So I kind of want to just get to the bottom of it.
38:31Because if Taylor was lying, that's a big deal.
38:34Oh, oh, oh, here we go.
38:40This is the calm before the storm.
38:43Oh, oh, oh, here we go.
38:46I can feel it coming on.
38:50It's coming on.
38:51Oh, oh, oh.
38:57Come in.
38:58Hi.
38:59Why do you have the baby?
39:00Because Dakota had to go to work.
39:02Why didn't he call me?
39:03I don't know.
39:06He didn't even ask me, so that's really weird.
39:09Oh, I know.
39:10After everything with Jenna, I call him,
39:13like, you lied, like, way more than I thought.
39:16There was way more messages deleted.
39:17And I was like, how did you do this?
39:18Like, how have you done this to me?
39:20I was kind of, like, looking for some sort of, like,
39:22explanation.
39:23At the end of the day, there's just not.
39:24Like, what is done is done.
39:25All he can say is, like, I'm sorry.
39:27At that point, I distanced myself from me.
39:29It was just, I don't even want to hear it.
39:31I don't want to hear the excuses.
39:32How are you feeling, by the way?
39:33Oh, I'm better.
39:34Does my face look OK?
39:36Yeah, yeah.
39:37Your swelling's coming down.
39:38It's, like, going down.
39:39Yeah.
39:40How's it feeling?
39:41It's feeling OK.
39:42Do I look OK?
39:43Yeah.
39:44Do I look funny?
39:45No, you just look really swollen, so you look different.
39:46But, like, I think once it goes down, it'll be fine.
39:47Yeah.
39:48But you look good, and I love your nose.
39:49Oh, I love it, too.
39:50So my mom wanted to get a nose job
39:53and then got her whole face done.
39:56When I saw her post-surgery, I was like, Mom, what did you do?
40:02She looked like she got hit by a bus.
40:04Do I look your age?
40:05Uh, I wouldn't go that far.
40:08But she is healing well.
40:10And if she feels great, great.
40:13Hi, buddy.
40:14He's so cute.
40:15Oh, I'm sorry, baby.
40:16I think he's teething.
40:18How are you doing?
40:20I'm OK.
40:24I met up with Jenna.
40:26Yeah.
40:27It's just all the lying that really hurts.
40:28I feel like I fell in love with, like, someone that, like, doesn't exist.
40:34He's not the guy that I thought, like, at all.
40:37Now it's like, where do we go from here?
40:39Yeah.
40:40And that blanket.
40:42I know.
40:43Um, I feel like I just can't, like, even try, like.
40:48I feel like the only thing I've ever asked of Dakota is to be honest.
40:52Yeah.
40:53That is the only thing.
40:54If he was to walk away, like, could you handle it?
40:57I'd choose walking away than those things I just found out.
41:00It's going to be awful.
41:01Yeah.
41:02I agree.
41:03I don't want that.
41:04But I am not going to settle.
41:05I had a stepdad growing up.
41:07But I've always called him dad because he adopted me at two, and he's been the father
41:10throughout my life.
41:11So he's my dad.
41:12But I think my trust issues stem from my biological father leaving me at a young age.
41:18And I think that's why I'm so stuck.
41:20I met my dad once.
41:22My mom took me to a restaurant.
41:25I don't know.
41:26How old was I?
41:27Four, maybe?
41:28And he sees me.
41:29He's like, what's up, kid?
41:30And that's literally, like, all he says to me.
41:34And I remember, like, turning around and going back to my booth.
41:38I had never heard from my dad after that day.
41:41That has stuck with me more than I ever thought.
41:44When you feel like you're not loved by your dad, and that's the only words he has to say
41:48to you, I think, I don't know.
41:50I think there's just a wound there that's been there for a very long time that I've
41:53never addressed, and that's why I'm probably fixating on shit.
41:56I'm, like, really angry.
41:58Like, I'm, like, asking God.
41:59I'm like, why this too?
42:02Like, why this too?
42:04Like, I came into this relationship wanting it to be different and, like, loyal and good.
42:10I feel used and played and, like, trashed.
42:13Like, why am I still on this couch crying, like, a year later?
42:17It's so annoying.
42:20I'm sorry.
42:23And I didn't even see it coming.
42:25It just sucks.
42:27Oh.
42:34I'm, like, angry.
42:38So what do you do?
42:40You keep trying.
42:42I really wish she would have thought of things before we got pregnant from him.
42:46Just like we said, you know, like, take your time because it hurts everybody.
42:51Like, not just you.
42:52You have three kids now, and you need to focus and put their lives in front of yours, you
42:57and Dakota.
42:58Like, this needs to be your priority.
43:01That's a foundation of our lives, is our family.
43:04If anything that the LDS Church has, like, that foundation of a family is something that
43:09I strongly believe in.
43:11Your generation, I think, is just like, okay, it's not working.
43:14It's not working.
43:15See you later.
43:16And it's not like that.
43:17It's like...
43:18But it hasn't been working for two years.
43:19I know, I know.
43:20But still, Taylor, you need to try.
43:25I'm at a loss.
43:26I'm at a loss right now.
43:27I do love Dakota.
43:29But at the same time, I won't ever be able to trust you.
43:32And so now it's like, what do we have?
43:34So I am going to tell him, please don't come back home.
43:37You are immediately out of my house because the only way we're ever going to work out
43:41is if you let me breathe for a minute.
44:02Okay, here we go.
44:04Hi.
44:05How are you guys?
44:06Good.
44:07How are you?
44:08Good.
44:09Welcome.
44:13What do you want me to put, married or separated?
44:16Depends on the day.
44:17We'll put married for today.
44:19For today, I can put married.
44:20Yeah.
44:21Okay.
44:22Come on in.
44:23Zach and I definitely have a lot to work on.
44:26And ketamine therapy is supposed to reset a lot of past traumas or habits you've created.
44:36Ketamine is in the gray area when it comes to the church.
44:39Yeah, the church doesn't promote ketamine, but it's definitely not like a commandment.
44:43Zach trying ketamine is a pure example of how much he's willing to do to show up for a relationship.
44:54This reminds me of when I used to donate plasma.
44:59It's too late to back out now.
45:00Yep.
45:01A little bit.
45:02You've started.
45:05I never thought we'd get to this point where we'd be doing drugs together.
45:10Whoa, it hit me.
45:13It's hitting me right now.
45:24That was the hardest thing I've ever done.
45:25Will you come cuddle next to me once you're done?
45:27Yeah.
45:35Okay, Zach, I'm just going to take your IV up now.
45:40Were we out for a long time?
45:42I can't remember.
45:44I'm going to come over and give you a hug.
45:46Whoa.
45:53I just had some memories of when we first started dating.
45:58It truly felt like you were like my missing piece.
46:01When we were in Hawaii, when we were running through the coffee fields, I was thinking, I was like,
46:11I was like, I would literally give anything in the world to relive that day.
46:23I just want to hug you.
46:25Yeah.
46:31Jen and I do love each other and we are a team.
46:34And it's easy when you get back to the root of why you love each other.
46:40Being able to relive some of those memories and think about some of those times I've had with Jen.
46:44Yeah, I just kind of realized just how special she is to me.
46:49A month before I met you, I remember kneeling down and praying out to God to help me find my princess.
47:01And he led me to you.
47:04I want to fight for you.
47:06And I will always fight for you.
47:10Love you.
47:11Love you too.
47:15I'm glad we could come do this.
47:17Yeah, we need this.
47:19So do you still plan on meeting up with Demi and Jesse?
47:23It's important for me that Zach makes peace with Jesse and Demi because I feel like tossed in the middle.
47:30I just want to squash everything and resolve a lot of the resentment I think they're holding about Zach.
47:37Might be a good time, you know, after ketamine.
47:40Might be in the right...
47:41In the right headspace to talk to them.
47:43Yeah.
47:44If they're really your best friends and they really care about you and I'm your husband,
47:48then it's important that we have that conversation.
47:51We have that conversation.
48:17Taylor asked me to move out.
48:20I'm gonna just move into a friend's house for, like, a little bit till I can figure out what to do.
48:26I don't know, it just sucks.
48:28When I saw Macy call Jenna, I don't know, I just didn't want more problems.
48:35So I actually decided to tell Taylor, like, yeah, we just made up.
48:41We, like, tri-humped.
48:43I fell asleep with her on the couch.
48:45The thing that I left out that was, like, a big one was just that we were in a room.
48:50Because I knew that one would, yeah, that one would hurt her.
48:55I deleted some messages that if she was to, like, read those,
48:59I thought that would essentially make me lose her and my son.
49:03I did lie.
49:04I was always doing it selfishly to protect myself.
49:07I just wish I was honest to her.
49:09But it's too late.
49:15Oh.
49:35It's hard, too, because our son's so perfect.
49:40I feel a lot of guilt for him, too.
49:48Just feeling like I let him down.
49:52I would do anything to have my family, to be with Taylor.
49:58And, yeah, unfortunately, I just, I hurt her really bad.
50:04And that I screwed up.
50:06And that these are also consequences of my own actions.
50:11I'm just sick of, yeah, I'm sick of hurting.
50:14And I'm sick of, like, destroying things in my life due to myself.
50:23Taylor's the one person I've loved the most out of anybody.
50:28It's just worth fighting for.
50:31And that's what I'm gonna do.
50:51Going into the happy hour at my house, there's definitely some nerves there going on.
50:56I know that there is a lot of speculation about my intentions of rejoining MomTalk.
51:04One of the biggest is because I'm a single mom now.
51:08And what I really am craving and wanting back is that support and that friendship.
51:14But I know that I'm going to kind of have to win these girls over.
51:18And I get it, but I for sure feel like I'm walking into a lion's den.
51:23Hello.
51:24Hi, how are you?
51:26We got a little mocktail situation going on here.
51:29Does that say MomTalk on it?
51:31What the hell?
51:33I'm eating the M.
51:34MomTalk's going to shit, so I might as well just eat it.
51:37Walking in to see Miranda's cheese spread that she's made for us.
51:40And the cheese words that said MomTalk.
51:46I can't.
51:47The smell of desperation.
51:49Oh, Lord.
51:51Stop it.
51:57I was like, I'm just going to open it.
52:02I'm surprised to see Whitney here.
52:03I'm just going to have to play the game of just like stay away from Whitney.
52:07I do feel this sense of protectiveness around MomTalk.
52:11And I do feel like we need to protect it from people like Whitney and maybe Miranda who might have ulterior motives.
52:17I don't want one more problem bleeding into the health of a MomTalk.
52:22How are you?
52:23We're best friends here.
52:24Help yourself.
52:26I'm coming to this event today because I'm really loving building this relationship with Miranda.
52:31Not that I'm a swinger, but we have a lot of other things in common.
52:35We've got two kids.
52:37We're very level-headed people.
52:39And I just want to support her because I'm sure they're about to have a really awkward conversation.
52:43It's really good food.
52:45Honestly, yes.
52:47When did you go into labor with your other two?
52:49Were you really?
52:50I didn't get induced for everyone.
52:52Yeah.
52:53I'm excited to because like I'm done.
52:54Oh, you're done with three and done.
52:56I would say three is the new six in Utah.
52:58Right?
52:59I don't know what to think about Miranda and Whitney's new relationship.
53:02I just feel like their whole friendship seems a little bit phony right now.
53:05And I honestly think it just came from a place of they're both trauma bonding over, you know, ruining friendships with everyone and leaving MomTalk.
53:14Hello.
53:15Hi.
53:16Is this your house?
53:17Yeah.
53:18It's so cute.
53:20What did I miss?
53:21Nothing yet.
53:23The vibes are just off.
53:26And I think it's because Michaela, Layla, and Macy are against Miranda joining MomTalk because they are team Taylor.
53:35But to be honest, I actually don't mind Miranda.
53:38And she's a single mother.
53:40So as a woman, I don't see why we can't support her.
53:45If you guys are done eating, we can move over to the couch so you guys don't have to sit on the back of the couch.
53:50I'm going to be honest.
53:51I'm shocked you're still showing up to MomTalk stuff.
53:53Oh, really?
53:54Yes.
53:55After everything.
53:56Wow.
53:57Also, I feel like in Vegas, I don't know if I can trust anyone.
54:00Yeah.
54:01It's like no one was there.
54:02Yeah.
54:03I mean, I literally reached out to everyone in the group message.
54:06You weren't in the group message, so you didn't see this.
54:08I basically said like, hey, you guys, like I'm struggling right now.
54:11Zach and I are struggling.
54:13I would appreciate it if you didn't feed into any of the negativity online right now.
54:17Yeah.
54:18Just while we're figuring stuff out.
54:20No one responded.
54:21Oh, gosh.
54:22I'm sorry.
54:23It's just sucky.
54:25Yeah.
54:26I would hate that.
54:28Hello.
54:29Hi.
54:30Come on in.
54:31I decided to come to Miranda's happy hour because I am trying to take control of my life.
54:36One, separating from Dakota.
54:38And two, I'm curious what she has to say to the group, because if she decides to pull
54:43some lies out, I will be there to set it straight.
54:46But I will not be called a liar when I'm not a liar.
54:48I'm done with that.
54:50Macy.
54:51Oh.
54:54How do you bring up having to call Macy?
54:56She's like too many people.
54:57I don't want to be like, rude, but I also like, like if you're the one inserting yourself
55:01into our group now, like, I feel like we almost have to like say how we feel.
55:07I'm figuring.
55:08There's memories.
55:10Oh, like what kind of memories?
55:11I'd love to get all that cleared up.
55:13Now's the time to print.
55:16So clearly there's a conversation to be had.
55:18Yeah.
55:19Between Taylor and Miranda.
55:21No, I think everyone.
55:22Macy.
55:24Oh.
55:25Let's do it.
55:26Well, I guess my first question is, what was the intention between inviting all of us
55:30over here?
55:31Like, I'm genuinely curious because we haven't really talked to you in like two years.
55:34Right.
55:35So I just kind of like, I just would like to have you guys over to kind of like clear
55:39the air, have it be like an icebreaker.
55:41I really want to put everything behind us and move forward.
55:44I feel like it all just comes down to timing again.
55:46I just feel like convenient timing to come back in and be like, oh, I'm ready to be friends
55:50again.
55:51Everything feels kind of fake to me about it.
55:53Even the conversation we had just the other day at the event, it was like, oh, we only
55:56kissed.
55:57And I was like, well, that's not what we had at all either.
56:00It's frustrating when someone's lying through their teeth and because you're threatening
56:04my relationship with all of my girls and mom talk.
56:08I hope that the girls will have my back because it's going to get messy for sure.
56:21What I'm hearing is you deserve what you got.
56:23You're saying I was trapped when you guys are together.
56:26It's eating you alive.
56:27Don't touch me.
56:28Don't touch me.
56:29You're not going to.
56:31Mom talk.
56:32Within this group, there are so many secrets, so many lies.
56:35Do you ask her about the confession that Macy got?
56:37I slept with Demi's husband last year.
56:40This is not what we were a year ago.
56:43It seems like everybody's got skeletons in the closet.
56:46Who's lying to us?
56:47The only time I touched anyone was kissing.
56:49That is a lie.
56:51Is that true or false?
56:52That is 100% a blatant lie.
56:55The crap that I've been through for defending you and your actions.
56:58This is our marriage.
56:59This isn't a game.
57:00I gave consent for your husband to rub his little dick on me.
57:06Okay, well, this escalated quickly.
57:08Dear kind Heavenly Father, please strengthen our friends.
57:11I don't let myself feel sometimes.
57:13And it's still hard for me.
57:15I would be fighting to the death defending you.
57:18Does this mean I'm back in mom talk?
57:21I'm calling you out on your shit.
57:23Case, let's fucking do it.
57:25The truth needs to be brought to light.
57:27It'll never be the same, ever.
57:28I'm just not her biggest fan for what she's done to you.
57:31Demi's trying to get the whole group against me.
57:33I will make her look like such a fool.
57:36She was playing truth or dare with a ton of single men.
57:38Look at you fucking lie.
57:40Oh, shit.
57:41World War III is breaking out.
57:45What's happening?
57:46What the fuck are you gonna do?
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