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Key House Republicans Explain Why They Are Voting Against The One Big Beautiful Bill
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5/16/2025
Rep. Josh Brecheen (R-OK), Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX), Rep. Ralph Norman (R-SC) and Rep. Andrew Clyde (R-GA) explained why they are voting against the GOP budget reconciliation bill.
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00:00
I yield three minutes to my friend from Georgia, Mr. Andrew Klein. Three minutes.
00:05
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
00:08
House Republicans have a once-in-a-decade opportunity, a once-in-a-decade opportunity,
00:15
to deliver real conservative change in Washington.
00:18
This Congress has laid out bold priorities for President Trump's one big, beautiful bill,
00:23
including tax relief for working families and small businesses,
00:26
major investments in border security, strengthening our military,
00:30
unleashing American energy, reforming federal health programs to protect the most vulnerable,
00:36
and restoring Second Amendment rights.
00:38
We're also committed to ensuring the final package is fiscally responsible,
00:42
right-sizing government, and putting our fiscal future back on track.
00:47
Unfortunately, the current version falls short of these goals
00:51
and fails to deliver the transformative change that Americans were promised,
00:55
substantiative improvements are needed,
00:58
and I look forward to working with this committee and our House Republican Conference
01:03
to make sure we deliver.
01:04
As an ardent Second Amendment defender, I have always promised to defend my constitutions,
01:08
my constituent Second Amendment rights.
01:11
Today, excise taxes, specifically transfer and making taxes,
01:15
are imposed on every firearm regulated under the National Firearms Act of 1934.
01:20
As Chief Justice John Marshall warned in 1819,
01:24
the power to tax involves the power to destroy, and he was absolutely right.
01:30
These taxes have enabled unconstitutional regulation and registration under the National Firearms Act,
01:36
exemplified by the Biden administration's dangerous pistol brace rule,
01:40
which turned millions of law-abiding gun owners, many of them veterans, into felons overnight.
01:46
The House now has a historic opportunity to repeal the burdensome taxation, registration,
01:52
and regulation of short-barreled firearms, both rifles and shotguns,
01:56
and suppressors under the National Firearms Act.
01:59
The American people are watching.
02:00
It is time to deliver.
02:03
Additionally, House Republicans must put Medicaid on a sustainable path
02:06
by refocusing the program on the truly vulnerable.
02:10
Single mothers, pregnant women, disabled Americans, children, and the elderly.
02:13
Yet taxpayers in non-expansion states, like my constituents in Northeast Georgia,
02:21
are unfairly footing the bill for excessive Medicaid spending in blue states.
02:26
Currently, the federal government matches $1.33 for every $1 that states spend
02:32
for these core vulnerable populations.
02:34
But under Obamacare's Medicaid expansion,
02:36
the federal government pays $9 for every $1 spent on largely able-bodied working-aged adults
02:44
that simply will not work.
02:46
That's unacceptable.
02:47
It's time Republicans prioritize Medicaid for the vulnerable over the able-bodied.
02:53
Unfortunately, the current reconciliation package fails to reverse this misguided funding scheme
02:58
that undermines care for the most vulnerable,
03:01
the very people Medicaid was originally intended to help.
03:04
For these reasons, I am unable to support this package in its current form,
03:08
but I look forward to strengthening this bill to ensure that it does pass
03:12
so that we fulfill all of our America First promises to the American people.
03:17
Thank you, and I yield back.
03:18
Mr. Josh Burkine from Oklahoma, you have three minutes.
03:21
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
03:22
Look, apart from being someone that represents Christ
03:26
and the way that I operate in this building
03:28
and being a good husband and a great father to my children,
03:32
something stands out to me more so than anything else
03:35
in the way that I conduct my life.
03:37
It is to be a person of truth.
03:39
And I think some of us are having real consternations this morning
03:43
because of feeling like that there is truth on both sides,
03:48
that we had a blueprint.
03:50
But there's also truth in the fact that $50 billion was added
03:53
that is not a part of the blueprint.
03:56
And so was the instructions fully met,
03:59
it's truth that that element is lacking,
04:02
and that has to be reconciled,
04:04
not in truth with what the blueprint laid out.
04:06
The second part, to be a person of truth, has to be the scores.
04:09
And when you look at, because that's the decision before us today,
04:15
as people of truth, do these scores pan out?
04:19
And what I saw happen in Oklahoma,
04:22
in my time in the state legislative body,
04:24
trying to repeal wind tax credits,
04:28
60 lobbyists from other countries, Italy, Spain involved,
04:32
diverged on the Capitol,
04:34
and it took from the 90s,
04:37
as Governor Keating discussed in the 2018 era,
04:41
when we were trying to repeal these,
04:41
it was never intended to last as long as it did.
04:44
And it was always the promise to end many years from now,
04:47
which never materialized.
04:49
And so when we've got a measure that says
04:52
start date for ending is four years from now,
04:56
and we also have elements of this as it currently stands,
04:59
that says you can enter a project in 2031
05:03
as a wind production entity
05:05
and still be receiving taxpayer subsidies by 2040,
05:09
to be a person of truth,
05:10
I know what's going to happen.
05:12
I know there are going to be lobbyists
05:13
that are going to descend on this building.
05:16
We'll get the savings up front.
05:18
And years from now, when President Trump,
05:19
who rightfully so is a champion for any,
05:21
as he calls it, the Green New Scam,
05:23
is no longer in office,
05:24
this is designed,
05:25
I'm sorry, but I think it's purposely designed,
05:28
and I'm not challenging anybody's character.
05:32
I am grateful to a speaker.
05:34
I am grateful to a chairman of this committee.
05:36
I am grateful to a leader
05:37
that's engaging with us right now
05:39
to try to figure this stuff out,
05:40
to get to the truth.
05:41
But I just want for my committee members
05:43
to know my consternation,
05:45
because as Patrick Henry once said,
05:48
I have but one lamp by which my feet are God.
05:50
It's the lamp of experience.
05:51
I know no other way to foretell the future
05:53
than by the past.
05:55
And until we get these timelines corrected,
05:58
where it's a true repeal of wind and solar
05:59
that is undermining our electric grid,
06:02
60% of all new generation in the last two years,
06:05
according to the Energy Information Administration,
06:07
is wind and solar.
06:09
And the super majority of components on solar,
06:11
it's 61% of it's solar,
06:13
and the super majority of those components
06:14
are coming from China,
06:16
undermining natural gas jobs all over this country.
06:20
We have to fix this.
06:21
I appreciate a chairman, speaker, and a leader right now
06:24
as we're even talking,
06:25
trying to figure this out
06:26
so I can be a person of truth.
06:29
I yield.
06:31
I thank the gentleman from Oklahoma
06:34
who is indeed a person of truth.
06:38
I now yield three minutes
06:40
to the pride of the Palmetto State,
06:42
Mr. Ralph Norman.
06:44
Mr. Chairman,
06:44
I want to thank you for the job you've done
06:46
on the budget committee.
06:47
You've held fast.
06:48
You've kept this committee going.
06:49
And I just want to thank you
06:50
and give you the credit for it.
06:52
Great leadership.
06:53
To my friends on the left,
06:56
let me classify it this way.
06:58
You're being untruthful.
07:00
You can say however you want to say,
07:02
but to say we're cutting Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security
07:04
is simply untruthful.
07:06
You cannot cut Social Security anyway.
07:08
And, you know,
07:11
what this boils down to
07:12
is a complete...
07:14
We're operating on two different universes.
07:16
You think the tax money is yours,
07:19
government is your God,
07:21
and that's what your bottom line that you have.
07:25
You supported an administration
07:27
and Joe Biden
07:27
that trainwrecked this country
07:29
by letting 15 to 20 million illegals
07:31
in this country
07:32
where we have paid a price
07:33
and are continuing to pay a price.
07:35
Now, where are we on this bill?
07:37
The tax cuts are great.
07:39
The tax money is the taxpayers,
07:41
not the government bureaucracy.
07:43
And what we're dealing with now
07:45
is so many good things that are happening.
07:47
You can use class warfare,
07:49
rich, poor, black, white.
07:51
You're off base.
07:52
77 million people told you you were off base
07:55
and you're still off base.
07:58
But here's the questions I would ask.
08:01
And, Mr. Chairman, I know you know this.
08:03
Is it right for healthy, able-bodied Americans
08:07
that could work, that don't work?
08:11
It's over 25 million healthy, able-bodied Americans
08:14
that don't work.
08:14
Is it right for them to have a paycheck?
08:16
I don't think so.
08:18
Is it right if you're an illegal alien,
08:20
which the right side of this aisle,
08:23
my Democrat friends led in this country,
08:26
if you're an illegal,
08:27
is it right to have illegals,
08:29
cash and checks with money we don't have?
08:32
And to phase this in for four years
08:35
and give a, we're telling a healthy body,
08:38
a healthy American that you got four years
08:40
to get a job?
08:41
No, the payment stops now.
08:43
If you're an illegal, the payment stops now.
08:47
On the IRA, a lot of these credits
08:51
have been in existence for 30 and 40 years.
08:53
And you're talking about giveaways.
08:55
We want to help those who really need help.
08:57
And that's what we are, that's the heart of this.
09:01
Sadly, I'm a hard no until we get this ironed out.
09:05
And I think we can.
09:07
We've made progress, but it just takes time.
09:10
And it's time that if we're going to continue
09:13
to have just what I mentioned,
09:16
able-bodied Americans getting checks,
09:18
illegals getting checks,
09:20
subsidies that go to corporations
09:22
that shouldn't get them, I'm out.
09:24
So thank you for, Mr. Chairman, again,
09:27
for what you've done.
09:28
And thank you for this budget committee.
09:30
I yield.
09:32
Now yield three minutes to my friend
09:34
and fellow Texan who's done a fantastic job,
09:38
played a key role in fashioning
09:39
the initial framework we call the budget resolution.
09:45
And I want to thank him for his service
09:47
and his friendship.
09:48
Mr. Chip Roy, three minutes.
09:50
I appreciate my friend from Texas, the chairman.
09:52
And, you know, there are my Democratic colleagues
09:54
go again, telling things that are not true.
09:57
The vast majority of Americans
09:59
will get tax benefits under this bill.
10:01
It's just simply false to say that that's not true.
10:03
Hardworking Americans who will benefit
10:05
from the standard deduction increase.
10:06
Hardworking Americans will benefit
10:07
from child tax credits and lower tax rates.
10:10
Stop saying things that aren't true.
10:12
Those things are true.
10:14
The fact is we have money in here for border
10:15
to undo the damage of Joe Biden.
10:17
We have more money in here for the defense
10:19
to undo the damage of Joe Biden.
10:20
But we also address Medicaid
10:22
and Medicaid spending goes up.
10:24
Stop lying.
10:25
Medicaid spending goes up.
10:27
My colleagues on the other side of the aisle
10:28
are profoundly unserious
10:30
when it comes to being real
10:31
about what's happening with the numbers.
10:33
I applaud Chairman Arrington.
10:34
I applaud my colleagues on this side of the aisle
10:36
for taking a step forward
10:37
in dealing with the spending problem in this town.
10:40
But I have to now admonish my colleagues
10:42
on this side of the aisle.
10:43
This bill falls profoundly short.
10:45
It does not do what we say it does
10:47
with respect to deficits.
10:48
The fact of the matter is
10:50
on the spending,
10:51
what we're dealing with here
10:52
on tax cuts and spending,
10:54
a massive front-loaded deficit increase.
10:57
That's the truth.
10:59
That's the truth.
11:00
Deficits will go up
11:02
in the first half of the 10-year budget window
11:04
and we all know it's true.
11:05
And we shouldn't do that.
11:07
We shouldn't say that we're doing something
11:09
we're not doing.
11:10
The fact of the matter is
11:12
this bill has back-loaded savings
11:15
and it has front-loaded spending.
11:19
Nowhere near the Senate budget top line,
11:21
by the way.
11:22
The Senate budget top line
11:23
of $6.5 trillion,
11:25
which, by the way,
11:26
is what we were pre-COVID,
11:28
inflation-adjusted,
11:29
on interest,
11:30
on Medicaid,
11:31
I'm sorry,
11:32
on Medicare and Social Security.
11:33
And if we would reform Medicaid,
11:35
we could actually get to the core of the problem.
11:37
But we refused to do it.
11:40
And I'm not going to sit here
11:41
and say that everything is hunky-dory
11:43
when this is the budget committee.
11:46
This is the budget committee.
11:47
We are supposed to do something
11:48
to actually result in balanced budgets.
11:51
But we're not doing it.
11:52
Look at what happens under deficits.
11:54
By the way,
11:55
this chart includes growth.
11:57
This chart demonstrates economic growth.
12:00
And right here,
12:01
what do you see?
12:02
Baseline
12:03
and the orange
12:04
columns
12:05
are the deficits
12:06
under the House budget
12:08
assuming growth.
12:10
Only in Washington
12:11
are we expected
12:12
to bet on the come
12:13
that in five years,
12:15
then everything will work.
12:17
Then we will solve the problem.
12:19
We have got to change
12:21
the direction of this town.
12:22
And to my colleagues
12:23
on the other side of the aisle,
12:24
yes, that means touching Medicaid.
12:26
It went from $400 billion in 2019
12:28
to $600 billion this year.
12:30
It'll be over a trillion in the 2030s.
12:32
We are making promises
12:33
that we cannot keep.
12:35
We do need to reform it.
12:36
We need to stop giving
12:37
seven times as much money
12:38
to the able-bodied
12:39
over the vulnerable.
12:41
Why are we sticking it
12:42
to the vulnerable population,
12:43
the disabled and the sick,
12:44
to give money
12:45
to single able-bodied male adults?
12:47
We shouldn't do that.
12:49
We should reform it.
12:50
But guess what?
12:51
That message needs to be delivered
12:52
to my colleagues
12:53
on this side of the aisle too.
12:55
We are writing checks
12:56
we cannot cash.
12:57
And our children
12:58
are going to pay the price.
12:59
So I am a no on this bill
13:01
unless serious reforms are made
13:03
today,
13:04
tomorrow,
13:05
Sunday.
13:05
We're having conversations
13:07
as we speak,
13:07
but something needs to change
13:09
or you're not going
13:10
to get my support.
13:11
I yield back.
13:18
We've done a pretty good job
13:19
of conducting ourselves
13:20
professionally.
13:21
So if you've got
13:23
sidebar comments,
13:24
either side,
13:26
use your three minutes
13:27
to sound off, okay?
13:29
Mr. Chair,
13:30
we're not allowed
13:31
to use the word lying
13:32
about one another either.
13:34
So that decorum
13:36
should go both ways.
13:37
Well, I'd encourage people
13:38
not to say that.
13:41
Everybody's got to be responsible
13:42
for the things
13:43
that they say
13:43
in this committee.
13:45
But I also associate myself
13:48
with Mr. Chip Roy.
13:50
A whole lot of work
13:51
is still left undone,
13:54
and I look forward
13:55
to joining him
13:56
and making sure
13:57
that we strengthen
13:58
many of these spending
14:00
reform measures
14:01
before the ink dries.
14:02
But with that...
14:04
and that이라는
14:15
I'll call you
14:17
through any kind
14:19
of wood,
14:20
but I'm going
14:22
to drop
14:23
the way
14:25
that time
14:27
is
14:27
on other
14:28
people
14:29
and
14:30
I know
14:31
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