Harald Malmgren Drops The Biggest UFO Bombshell I've Ever Heard

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Patrick discusses one bombshell part of the last interview Harald Malmgren ever recorded, days before his passing. He claims to have touched with his own hands, pieces of a UFO. And the story is even stranger than you could ever imagine. Shout out to Jesse Michels (American Alchemy) for a phenomenal interview.

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00:00What's up, Vetters? Patrick here with Vetted. I have an absolute bombshell story to share for you all in today's video.

00:08Jesse Michaels just released his latest interview with Harold Malgrim. Now, who is Harold?

00:15I made a video discussing who he is kind of essentially a few weeks ago, but I'm going to include a little snippet of that in today's video to kind of, you know, catch you up on who he is.

00:28I'll also put a link in the description to the full interview with Jesse Michaels.

00:32I actually made a video about that earlier today.

00:36Again, I'll put a link in the description to that so you can go learn more about what's in the entire interview.

00:41But in today's video, I'm only going to focus on one particular story in that interview that I find to be absolutely mind-blowing, and it has to do with this.

00:53This interview changed my life forever, and will hopefully do the same for you.

01:00In it, Harold admits to directly handling UFO material that fell out of the plume of a Marshall Islands nuclear test.

01:08This is world history.

01:10It's the first time anybody of this caliber has ever admitted to handling UFO material directly.

01:16What did it feel like?

01:17He discusses getting briefed on other world technologies by Deputy Director of Plans for the CIA and Chief Architect of Area 51, Richard Bissell.

01:35Now, you see what I mean?

01:37This is exciting.

01:38Before we break this down even further with some clips from that interview, I do want to tell you, please hit that like button better.

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01:50I put out new videos every week about the UFO phenomena.

01:53Now, I mentioned at the beginning of this video that I would tell you a little bit more about Harold Malgrin.

01:59So, let me explain a little bit more about who he is, and then we'll jump into some of these clips from Jesse Michaels' new interview.

02:07Harold Malgrin, born 1935, who recently passed away in 2025, was an American scholar, diplomat, and senior advisor to U.S. Presidents Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, and Ford,

02:19as well as a key figure in international trade negotiations.

02:23With a background in physics and economics, he held high-level security clearances during his career,

02:28including roles overseeing Department of Defense projects on nuclear weapons and anti-missile defense in the 1960s.

02:36Malgrin later revealed he was informally briefed on other world technologies by CIA official Richard Bissell,

02:44who oversaw secretive programs like Area 51 and Skunk Works.

02:48He claimed this occurred over 60 years ago, suggesting knowledge of non-human intelligence technologies,

02:55including recovered materials held by government and private entities.

03:00Notably, Malgrin alleged that during a 1962 missile test tied to the Cuban Missile Crisis,

03:06the U.S. Navy shot down and retrieved a UFO orb, an event he linked to briefings from Bissell

03:14and Atomic Energy Commission official Lawrence Preston Geis.

03:19And Lawrence Preston Geis just happens to be Jeff Bezos' grandfather.

03:24That's right, the guy behind Amazon.

03:27Before his death in February 2025, Malgrin broke decades of secrecy to share these insights,

03:33contributing to modern UFO discourse.

03:37So I said, well, what am I here to find out?

03:41He said, well, he reached for some stuff sitting on his desk.

03:45These are things that have come down.

03:52I'm looking at, you know, that round rock, you know.

03:57So you're looking at, like, anomalous material?

04:00Yeah.

04:00Debris?

04:01Yeah.

04:01But debris or images?

04:04Debris.

04:06Wow.

04:07No, he said handling.

04:09Wow, that's amazing.

04:11I lost all of those.

04:14I was told by the Lawrence, she's, yeah, put your stuff in your hands, play with it.

04:21See what it feels like.

04:22What did it feel like?

04:25It felt weird because it didn't feel anything we know.

04:32What color was it?

04:42It's the color of something in space.

04:49What's the color of something in space?

04:53Depends on the light in the room or the light for the camera.

04:59Was it heavy?

05:02Yeah.

05:06The objects were like, I mean, they picked them up.

05:12They didn't, I didn't put them down and they went through.

05:16It's heavy.

05:22So let's make sure we're all on the same page here, right?

05:25There was a Marshall Islands nuclear test done.

05:30And during this, out of the plume of this explosion, some materials fell from a UFO.

05:39And Harold was able to get his hands on it.

05:41But more importantly, they tried to cover this up by releasing a second video that was scrubbed that didn't show that stuff dripping down.

05:49Why cover it up?

05:50Why cover it up?

05:52And let me assure you, this story, it gets even stranger.

05:56If you had been there without knowing how it was retrieved, would you think that it was at all different than like random rocks or something?

06:05He didn't know how it was retrieved, but he said, no, this is some of, he said, I have it on my desk just as an example.

06:17I mean, he didn't say it for visitors, but I mean, whatever reason, he had it there.

06:25Did it, did it, was it emitting alpha, beta, gamma radiation, anything like that?

06:30I don't know.

06:31I don't know if he, he must have known it was safe.

06:35I mean, he had all this instrumentation around.

06:38Anyway, so I, you know, I just, what have we learned?

06:47Because it does pertain to designing a missile system of what kinds of things can interfere with it or might emulate.

07:01We just need to know more.

07:04Who else is studying this?

07:06We need to know about knowledge in other quarters, China or wherever, Russia.

07:14We feared Russian science more than China at that time.

07:21Anyway, he explained, though, that this is not the first case.

07:28The first case of other unidentified objects or phenomena, there's a history.

07:40Now, he didn't go into the history with me.

07:42He just said, do your research.

07:45I said, so you're telling me anyway, but the Navy says I can't know.

07:51Yes.

07:53He said, yes, but probably you saw the original.

08:00My bet is that that part of the test, the video, will have been scrubbed.

08:07Scrubbed, which was, but, and he repeated, that's Navy intelligence.

08:15They're another, they live in their own world.

08:19Sometimes they think they're even more powerful than we are, but.

08:23Do they still live in their own world?

08:25Yes.

08:28That's what everybody says.

08:30Now, if this story is true, the implications are groundbreaking, right?

08:35Because if this isn't the first story, and there are many more, again, I highly recommend watching this interview.

08:41It is an absolute home run, grand slam, you know, hat trick, Stanley Cup, World Series, Super Bowl interview.

08:49That Jesse did his best work, I believe, period.

08:54So I highly recommend watching it again.

08:56The link is in the description, but let's continue because there's even more to this.

09:00Again, like I said, it gets even stranger.

09:04There are a few key details of this story that fill in some gaps that Harold relayed to Pippa before he passed.

09:10Malmgrim confirmed that the entire Bluegill shootdown was an attempt to down a UFO.

09:23Malmgrim explicitly told this to Pippa, his daughter, and Jeffrey Cruikshank.

09:28He also told this to Senate Intelligence Staffer Kirk McConnell, who I interviewed.

09:32What Malmgrim reported, that he'd been told directly by Bissell, is that we downed a UFO that was monitoring, closely monitoring that test,

09:43and it tumbled into the ocean, and that the Navy picked it up.

09:47So the American military knew they could bait UFOs with nukes, and destabilize their flight paths with EMPs.

09:54See, EMPs disrupt local magnetic fields.

09:57It would even locally disrupt the magnetosphere of the Earth.

10:02If you're flying at incredible speeds in a UFO, you probably need to use some form of quantum sensing.

10:11This would allow you to use the magnetosphere of the Earth in order to navigate.

10:15Birds even do this.

10:17They use avian cryptochromes to quantum sense the magnetic field of the Earth and navigate home.

10:22This form of precision sensing would be necessary in order to navigate a UFO.

10:27So when you disrupt the local magnetic field, you could cause a UFO to spin out, lose control, and drop out of the air.

10:35Also, UFO propulsion likely requires megavolt-range electricity and extremely strong electric field strength over long periods of time,

10:44which would require a power source that far surpasses traditional fuel or batteries.

10:49I think UFOs have a nuclear propulsion source.

10:52If the X-ray-induced shockwave from the Bluegill payload would disrupt the plutonium pit of an incoming nuclear warhead,

10:58it would also probably disrupt the power source of a UFO.

11:02Like I said, it got even stranger.

11:08And oh, it gets even more strange than this,

11:11because the actual properties of the piece of material do things that can't be explained.

11:19So, what is going on here?

11:22Wait till you hear this.

11:23Uh, what?

11:53He's touching the UFO materials and some voices come in his head.

11:58He can't remember it.

11:59Granted, it's been a long time, but it telepathically communicated with him.

12:04The pieces?

12:05Are these pieces alive?

12:07Does this therefore indicate that the UFOs are alive?

12:12This is definitely a theory that floats around the UFO community and has for a long time.

12:17But no one of Harold's stature or credibility has ever said anything like this.

12:24That's why this is so groundbreaking.

12:25I'm not saying this is true.

12:27I don't know.

12:28I've seen zero evidence.

12:30It's just his testimony.

12:31But this isn't just anybody's testimony, right?

12:35There's something behind this.

12:37So, I have to be honest.

12:38This definitely gets me thinking.

12:41And it definitely just makes my mind run crazy thinking about this.

12:45He also apparently thought that this was a test that Lawrence Geis had given him.

12:56He wanted to see if Harold would have this mental reaction to the pieces.

13:00Harold apparently passed.

13:01Once Harold passed Lawrence Geis' test and realized there was far more to this tag-along UFO phenomenon than met the eye,

13:09Malmgrim had clearly graduated from his role as the missile cost assessment guy.

13:14He needed to get fully read in.

13:16That's when he received a full briefing on otherworldly technologies by Richard Bissell.

13:26Who is Richard Bissell?

13:28Okay, so a few months after this series of episodes, missile crisis, Los Alamos,

13:39Richard Bissell called me up and said,

13:42I'd like to spend some time talking to you.

13:48Maybe Friday afternoons after work would be good.

13:54I said, sure.

13:55I knew who he was.

13:59I mean, he was deputy director of CIA.

14:03And he was in the news a lot because he had been the one who helped Schunkworth develop the U-2.

14:12So Richard Bissell then proceeds to informally brief Harold on the UFO program and different stories and different cases that had happened,

14:25revealing to Harold, this is real.

14:29This is a real phenomenon.

14:30Not only is it real, we have pieces, we have craft, we may even have bodies, right?

14:37And this is, again, astonishing.

14:41So, again, I hope you enjoyed today's video.

14:44Please check out the full episode on Jesse's channel.

14:47Again, I've said it a million times in this video, but links in the description.

14:51Go check out the full thing.

14:52It's well worth watching.

14:54If you're a fan of Jesse, it's the best work he's done.

14:57It's absolutely amazing.

14:58And that's saying a lot because he's already at a high standard.

15:01So, props again to Jesse and rest in peace to Harold and my best to him and his family.

15:08I think this is a great piece of material to have about, you know, your late father or person in your family, right?

15:17To have something like this of them, right?

15:19So, again, props all the way around.

15:23We'll see you guys in the next video.

15:25Remember, every day is a gift, y'all.

15:27Peace.

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