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Macron says to discuss with European partners extending French nuclear deterrence
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About an hour ago, Emmanuel Macron made a roughly 14 minute speech from the Elysee Palace in Paris,
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which signalled a change in attitude towards defence, not just in France, but Macron calling
00:14
for the same across Europe. He wants Europe to unite to get behind Ukraine in its existential
00:20
fight against Russia's invasion. Emmanuel Macron unveiled a plan to increase French defence spending
00:28
by 20 billion euros over the next five years. This, he says, will be a private-public partnership to,
00:35
he says, avoid any tax increases on French citizens in order to fund that. He says it's
00:41
essential that Europe unites to secure future peace, future security. He said Russia is now
00:49
the enemy and cannot be trusted. He cited Vladimir Putin specifically on this issue.
00:54
He cited the fact that Russia has twice broken treaties, namely the Minsk treaties over the
01:03
issues in Ukraine, 2014, 2015, and he says that basically it is impossible to take Vladimir Putin
01:10
at his word. He says Russia will be boosting its defences, its army, its weaponry as it goes along.
01:17
He said Russia has made this a world conflict by bringing in Iran and North Korea and to an extent
01:25
China in terms of the use of arms on the ground. And he said that Europe has the duty now to work
01:32
together to create more security and to lend its support to Ukraine. Let's take a listen to the
01:38
French president. As I speak to you and for the foreseeable, Russia has become a threat to France
01:47
and Europe. I deeply regret this and I'm convinced that in the long term, peace will return to our
01:53
continent with Russia once again at peace. But this is the situation I'm describing to you and
01:59
we have to live with it. Faced with this dangerous world, it would be foolish to remain a spectator.
02:06
Without further delay, we must make decisions for Ukraine, for the security of the French,
02:11
for the security of Europeans.
02:16
So security, the big issue that Emmanuel Macron pains to outline there, basically the increase
02:21
of spending, 20 billion euros extra from now until 2030, is his way, he says, of re-industrialising
02:29
certain parts of France. So that is something from the social aspect to look at in terms of
02:35
increasing jobs, which is almost a welcome issue in many parts of the country. But on a broader
02:42
scale and a pan-European scale, it's a question of creating a platform from which the continent can
02:48
defend itself and, at this point in time, lend its support to Vladimir Zelensky and Ukraine's
02:54
fight against Vladimir Putin and Russia. James Andre has been observing matters for us. He joins
02:59
us now live from the Élysée Palace. James, President Macron here, in many ways,
03:06
opening the door to a different kind of future in terms of defence for France and Europe.
03:14
Yes, absolutely. Emmanuel Macron, who really wanted to offer something very didactic today
03:18
and to try and convince the French people that indeed they needed to shift gears, that basically
03:23
the recipes of the past could not apply to what is happening now across Europe. Emmanuel Macron,
03:30
that we've been seeing over the past few days, in a flurry of diplomatic activity. We saw him
03:35
indeed last Sunday. He was in London on the 24th of February. He was in Washington, basically
03:43
showing support for Vladimir Zelensky. And this is the message he really clearly hammered to the
03:48
French public. We must back Vladimir Zelensky. He said we need to back Ukraine in order to achieve
03:56
sustainable, solid peace to protect Ukraine, but also to protect Europe. And also explaining to
04:02
the French public that, yes, there will be more military spending, that obviously he does not want
04:08
to hike taxes. But what he wants to do, he says, is to redistribute the spending of the nation,
04:15
which he says means there will be sacrifices, there will be tough choices to make, but also
04:20
call upon the French public to mobilize, to get ready, and indeed to get ready to defend France
04:25
and its values in the face of what has become, as he put it, a renewed threat coming from the East.
04:34
Emmanuel Macron saying that indeed tomorrow at this European summit, it will really be the
04:39
kickstarting of a European defense, that rules would be changed inside the Union in order to
04:44
allow countries to have deficit if that money is spent on defense, but also creating financial
04:52
mechanisms, reindustrializing France, basically recreating a whole economy of the defense that
04:59
needs to be sovereign and that needs to be integrated here in France. Indeed, Macron says
05:04
also he will open debate about extending the French nuclear umbrella to EU partner nations.
05:09
James, bear with us a second, because as you've been observing, at the Elysee, Hungarian Prime
05:13
Minister Viktor Orban has arrived for a special pre-summit supper with the French President. Now,
05:21
this very high honor indeed being paid to Viktor Orban. His visit comes as US President Trump has
05:26
ordered the suspension of US military aid deliveries to Kiev and a halt in intelligence
05:31
sharing, which is a real blow to Ukraine's troops in trying to fend off that Russian invasion.
05:37
The feeling in many European capitals is that Trump's America is pivoting away from its allies
05:42
toward Moscow. Orban, of course, one of Trump's and Moscow's closest allies in the European Union,
05:47
said a transatlantic rift of Russia's invasion of Ukraine became apparent over recent days.
05:52
I think that's an understatement, isn't it? Macron has hatched a four-point plan, of course,
05:56
to end the Ukraine war, but the main beneficiary from US actions over the past week is clearly
06:01
Russia and Vladimir Putin. Let's go back to James Andre, who is observing matters for us at the
06:06
Elysee. James, Viktor Orban then and Emmanuel Macron. I imagine that this will be a supper
06:12
that involves a lot of talking as well.
06:16
Yes, absolutely. Well, we saw Viktor Orban arrive just earlier on here and be greeted by Emmanuel
06:22
Macron here with the full Republican Guard. This is a state dinner and this is obviously an honor
06:27
that's being paid to Viktor Orban with a lot of things to discuss. As you know, Viktor Orban,
06:32
this was just last week when the European Union decided to renew sanctions on Russia,
06:38
threatened to use its veto power in order to avoid that happening. Viktor Orban has been
06:43
quite clear about the fact that he is ready to use his position in the European Union to block
06:50
the building or at least to slow down the creation of this European defense. And this, of course,
06:57
is something that Emmanuel Macron needs to sit down and discuss with the Hungarian president.
07:01
This is the point of this dinner, to get him on board, probably to try and convince him that he
07:05
has more to win by staying allied to the European Union rather than pivoting towards Russia. Well,
07:12
he's already an ally of Russia, but basically finding himself in this American Russia camp.
07:18
So we'll see how he responds to this. This is also, of course, to prepare tomorrow's special
07:24
summit, the European Union summit, where these first bricks of this renewed European defense
07:31
need to be laid. And of course, the idea is to avoid Viktor Orban impeding that progress.
07:36
James Andre at the Elysee Palace in Paris, the official residence of Emmanuel Macron,
07:40
French president. James, thank you, as always, very much indeed.
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