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Super Bowl 59 Breakdown: Leger Douzable joins Adam Caplan
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2/8/2025
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All right, our continuing coverage here at Super Bowl 59, Adam Kaplan and Lijai Duesable,
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former NFL defensive lineman, and Lijai and I were talking off the air here, and I know
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you've watched Chiefs tape, Eagles tape, so let's get started, let's get right to it.
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You really let off a bell in my head.
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I love it.
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I was like, wow.
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That's why I do this.
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Okay, let's get, so you and I were talking about earlier that Spaggs did some stuff earlier
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this year.
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Correct.
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Okay, so you got Saquon Barkley, number 26, got the Chiefs defense, Chiefs one of the
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best running defenses in the National Football League, but as you know, as being a former
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defensive tackle, at any given time, Saquon Barkley could break one.
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So what does Spaggs need to do here?
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So that's the thing, right?
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You've got to be gap sound, and when I say gap sound, if you have a gap responsibility,
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you need to be in it, because as soon as you're not, to your point, Saquon Barkley can take
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any run, 60, 70, 80 yards.
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So it's interesting.
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It's interesting.
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We were talking, I saw earlier, I went back and watched the tape from the Houston Texans,
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and literally it was the first couple plays of the game.
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The Houston Texans came out in 12 personnel.
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For people that don't know what that means, one back, two tight end.
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That is what the Philadelphia Eagles major in.
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They major in a lot of 12 personnel.
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What they did, which was so interesting, Spaggs, and this is XC and OE, so if it's too much,
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you know, just bear with us for a second.
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They went to reduced front, and when I say reduced front, a lot of times you'll take
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that one defensive end that's usually outside of the offensive tackle, you'll put him in
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the inside shoulder of the offensive tackle, and you'll bring a linebacker on the edge.
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That way you have essentially a five down front, right?
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Two linebackers behind you.
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So what Spaggs did, instead of making it McDana as the four eyes, what we call the inside
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of the tackle shoulder, he put Leo Chanel there in a two point stance.
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Folks, Leo Chanel is a strong side linebacker, so when you watch that tape, see Spagnoli
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the great defensive coordinator, who once worked for the Eagles many years ago, but
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when you saw him do this, because when you told me this, I was like, you can't do that.
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Are you going to get away with it?
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He only did it like twice, but I think it's a caveat just to see how he can switch things
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up and give you a reduced front by giving you different personnel looks.
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Now, again, later on in the game, McDana reduced down and he had Chanel on the edge, but I
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think it's something that Spaggs just wants to throw out there to see how it worked.
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And on that play, Chanel showed well, right?
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He's going against a tackle and an offensive guard, and he held his own, and I think the
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carry only went for like two or three yards.
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So Spaggs in the back of his head is like, well, I can maybe switch things up and they
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don't know what's coming.
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That way I can get McDana on the edge, just in case it is heavy play action pass, I get
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a pass rush because this is where it's XC and OE, because when you're in the four eye,
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you're not in a great position to rush the passer, because you're in the inside shoulder
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of the offensive tackle.
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Fletcher Cox hated that in the beginning, when they started to run the Fangio defense
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with Eagles some years ago, and he had to get used to it.
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It was a different technique, he said.
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It is.
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It's completely different, right?
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So, like, it's great if you're essentially going to be the B-gap player, playing over
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the guard.
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But if you're the four eye and you have to work back outside, it's the worst position
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to be in.
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So I think that's what Spaggs was thinking.
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He was like, Leo Chanel can hold up in the run game, but just in case the Eagles decide
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to go heavy play action pass, we got McDana on the edge versus tight end rushing and he
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can win that one-on-one.
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Let me ask you this question with Barkley on the other side.
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You see that Eagle offensive line, arguably the heaviest in NFL history.
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So as a defensive tackle, how do you prepare for that?
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That's a mentality thing.
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A hundred percent.
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And I guarantee Steve Spagnuolo, Joe Cullen, who I love, was my defensive line coach two
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years in Jacksonville.
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He's the defensive line coach for the Kansas City Chiefs.
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He will have them mentally ready.
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Like Chris Jones and Mike Dana and Amenahu and George Karloffis and Nnamdi, like these
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guys will have to play sound because you talked about it.
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This offensive line from the Eagles, they just move guys off the line of scrimmage.
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They literally move guys and change the line of scrimmage.
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Mekhi Becton, I mean, shout out to coach Jeff Stoutley, one of the best in the league because
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this guy played all left tackle his whole career.
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Never played guard, right?
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And now he's like a perennial Pro Bowl guard, right?
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He's going to get paid this offseason being a guard probably for whatever team he plays
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for.
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Sure.
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He's what?
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360, 370.
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These guys, Landon Dickerson, 360, like these guys move guys off the ball.
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And that's why I think when you go reduce front, it's kind of hard to do double teams,
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right?
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Because you have everybody gapped out.
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So it's essentially five single blocks.
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I think that's what Spags will do to mitigate and try to take some of that punishment off
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his defensive line.
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All right.
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Lee Jay.
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Sunday.
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Yep.
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Eagles.
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Chiefs.
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Who do you like?
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So I've been going back and forth because everybody talks about the pedigree for the
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Kansas City Chiefs, right?
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This is the most complete team in the NFL when you talk about the Philadelphia Eagles, right?
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They have the star power.
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I just think the look in Jalen Hurch's eyes and the way he's carried himself throughout
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this process, you can tell he's still pissed off about two years ago because essentially
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it was his fumble that kind of changed the course of the game because he was the best
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player on the field.
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Great that day.
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People keep right.
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He was the best player on the field that day.
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I think the Philadelphia Eagles get it done and they stopped the dynasty from three peening.
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Wow.
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OK.
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You heard it.
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You heard it from Lee Jay.
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Adam Kaplan.
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