Claudia Jordan and Luenell share their thoughts on the decline of talk shows

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Claudia Jordan and Luenell, two dynamic personalities, delve into their perspectives on the decline of talk shows.

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00:00All right, so look, real quick, there was a story that came out in Time Magazine called

00:03the Talk Shows Are Endangered Species, To Survive They Must Evolve.

00:07When you look at the talk shows that are on TV right now, do you think they reflect what

00:11people want to see, or just what they're trying to fill for advertisers and white people?

00:15I feel like a lot of them are too safe.

00:19I want to say that I feel like Cocktails of Queens, we're not safe, and we're a little

00:22edgy.

00:23A little edgy?

00:25A lot edgy, but I think we're the real.

00:29We're very real.

00:30Not to take away from the real, because that was a great show, Emmy nominated show, Emmy

00:33award winning show, but I feel like our show is very ... We don't bite our tongue on anything,

00:39and sometimes we got to talk about celebrities that are our friends, and we have to give

00:42a real opinion on things.

00:44I think we need to stop being so scary, advertisers stop being so scary, and go with the real

00:49shit.

00:50All this perfectly curated and safe shit is boring.

00:53We don't need that.

00:54We need to be ... I want to hear the same kind of conversation I would hear in the barbershop

00:58or the beauty salons.

00:59Where you just go in.

01:00You're not worried about who I'm going to offend.

01:03Yeah.

01:04Well, I'm trying to be the next black woman at Late Night.

01:08Late Night has a certain vibe.

01:11I don't feel like Contents with Queens attracts men.

01:17I think it attracts women and supports what we feel with each other, but I want to have

01:23a show that ... It's just like in comedy.

01:27There's female comics who are funny, but there's female comics who are what they call

01:32guy funny, where a guy would want to come see you even without his chick, or three or

01:38four guys want to come and see you.

01:40That's very different.

01:41You have to be a different type of person.

01:44I want to be the type of person who has a show that embraces the men as well.

01:49Nobody except for gay men and women want to hear women ... They don't want to hear our

01:55opinion.

01:57I want to do things that attract them in, and then they inadvertently hear our opinion.

02:04I feel like talk shows back in the day like Jenny Jones, Ricky Legg, even Sally, Jesse,

02:09and Oprah, Geraldo, everybody had something different that got everybody.

02:15You can tune into any of those shows and be captivated by what you're seeing.

02:17Nowadays, I feel like most of them are boring, and most of them are lackluster.

02:22I don't know.

02:23Is it because they're afraid to have the real conversations that people are having, or is

02:26it because the brands just don't want to have those real conversations?

02:28Well, daytime is different than nighttime, see?

02:31Everybody thinks they can be a talk show host, and everybody can't.

02:33Everybody wants to do daytime.

02:36I'm just not with the selling of the soap powder and trying to make Christmas wreaths

02:43out of toilet tissue rolls and stuff like that.

02:45I want to do like what Hugh Hefner used to have, Playboy After Dark, boozy and sort of

02:53sexy with poetry or comedy and musical artists and stuff like that.

03:01I'm not trying to get the housewives on my team, so that's what is up for me.

03:08I just want late night.

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