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" Kon Se Mulk Mein Parliment Mein Judges Jatay Hain Yeh Acha Pegham Nahi Hota," Sabiq Governor
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10/24/2024
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00:00
I'll tell you this, you asked when was the moment when it was understood that this is a friend's tilt.
00:07
I think when he reached the assembly, who were celebrating the 50th anniversary of the constitution,
00:12
I think sitting in between Ishaq Dar and Khwaja Asif, I think whoever it was.
00:18
Zardari sir was sitting with him.
00:20
Zardari sir?
00:21
Zardari sir was on one side.
00:22
Which judge? I don't know, neither in India, nor in the UK, nor anywhere, or in Pakistan.
00:27
And then he…
00:28
People sit in secret, they don't sit openly like this.
00:30
Yes, they don't sit openly.
00:31
I think a judge…
00:33
By the way, he had to become the Chief Justice, he didn't become it yet.
00:36
So he went at that time.
00:38
And he was the only judge, by the way.
00:40
Everyone was invited, only he went.
00:43
So one, he shouldn't have gone.
00:45
One, there should have been a symbolic gesture with the brother judges,
00:48
that why am I going alone?
00:50
You saw in that case, the reserve seat case,
00:54
Mr. Qazi repeatedly said that this case is the case of intra-party elections.
01:00
He didn't do it, I made the decision.
01:02
Mr. Qazi never gave an answer to one thing.
01:04
But you also say that the Election Commission's interpretation was not correct.
01:07
You issued two clarifications in Mubarak Shani.
01:10
In that too, you would have said that our decision is being misinterpreted,
01:14
we have eliminated a party, it is entitled.
01:17
Elections…
01:18
How big it would have been, if all the reserve seats had been given to the PTI.
01:22
If the interpretation is that the Election Commission is wrong,
01:24
and he is also sitting quietly,
01:26
then all the consequences that you are seeing are because of that.
01:29
No, Hassan, there is another point in that.
01:31
He should have given clarification.
01:33
The party's flag would have been put in front of Azad,
01:35
posters would have been put up, banners would have been put up.
01:37
It was said that you are completely free.
01:39
Kashif did the biggest problem.
01:41
Look, clarifications, it's not that they don't give clarifications.
01:44
They got clarification.
01:46
The most important thing in any democracy is the electoral process.
01:50
Its fairness.
01:52
And especially when you are making decisions,
01:54
because of your decisions, its interpretation is being misinterpreted.
01:57
And you are seeing that its interpretation is being misinterpreted.
02:00
And he let it go.
02:02
On purpose.
02:04
Later, in the decision of July, he says that the interpretation was wrong.
02:07
Who has been punished for that?
02:09
The people of Pakistan have been punished.
02:11
You had disenfranchised the people of Pakistan.
02:13
You had steal mandates from the people of Pakistan.
02:16
He is directly responsible.
02:18
There is an election commission.
02:20
But if this case was not in the Supreme Court,
02:23
then it would have been another matter that why did you interfere.
02:26
But because of the case, you yourself are saying that the interpretation is wrong.
02:29
But they say that why didn't the PTI lawyer come in this regard?
02:32
Okay.
02:33
Where he is today, there are a lot of arguments.
02:36
And why wasn't the intraparty election done before 8th February?
02:39
There must be a lot of arguments.
02:41
I am pretty sure everyone has a lot of arguments.
02:43
I kept hearing in the Reserve Seat case,
02:45
where their biggest argument was
02:47
that because of the intraparty election,
02:49
a case came in front of us.
02:50
We decided the case on merit.
02:51
Someone told me this.
02:52
The decision was made at 11 pm.
02:54
Someone told me this.
02:55
When I spoke to him, I said,
02:57
Sir, this disenfranchised.
02:59
He said, Sir, this is not possible.
03:01
And the rest of the parties didn't do it.
03:03
You fined someone.
03:04
You did this to someone.
03:05
He said, Sir, this is not possible.
03:06
10 people have killed.
03:07
If there is a punishment on 11th,
03:08
you say that it was not done on the first 10th,
03:09
so leave it.
03:10
There was no murder.
03:11
It was a very sacred thing.
03:13
Now, from there, I am talking about a debate.
03:16
From there, the debate came that,
03:18
Sir, you cannot collect both.
03:20
One is a crime against humanity,
03:22
when you kill somebody.
03:24
And one is that the election was not done,
03:26
but 1 crore, 1.5 crore, 2 crore, 5 crore,
03:30
all the people who want to vote for a political party,
03:32
you give them a chance to choose their political party.
03:35
The supremacy of the parliament,
03:37
which Qazi Sahib mentions again and again,
03:39
that is the basis of the parliament,
03:41
the election.
03:42
If the election is fair,
03:43
then a fair parliament,
03:44
the representative of the people will come to the parliament,
03:46
who will then make a decision,
03:48
then it will be a representative decision.
03:50
That is why amendments are not acceptable,
03:52
because this assembly is wrongly elected.
03:55
This is what Maulana Sahib says.
03:57
Not Maulana Sahib, this is what everyone says.
03:59
I am saying this again and again,
04:00
this is a form of criticism,
04:01
but Maulana Sahib used to say that
04:02
this is a fake assembly,
04:03
it has no power.
04:04
Muneeb Sahib,
04:05
was Qazi Sahib deceived in the end?
04:07
What did you think three months ago?
04:09
Will Qazi Sahib become the head of the Constitutional Court?
04:12
Did he think that something like this would happen?
04:14
Were there any assurances?
04:16
Or were there just talks in the market
04:18
to malign Qazi Sahib?
04:22
I think Qazi Sahib knew that
04:26
the government was going to make some amendments.
04:30
Qazi Faisal Sahib was very important for this system.
04:36
Let me tell you that
04:38
this is just the first phase.
04:44
In the coming days,
04:46
there will be some developments
04:48
after which you will see the 27th amendment,
04:52
and maybe the 28th as well.
04:54
Eventually, the constitutional benches
04:57
will become the Constitutional Court.
05:00
That is the Constitutional Court.
05:02
This is the Constitutional Court.
05:04
No, no, that is here.
05:06
There is an issue.
05:08
There are some issues,
05:10
and there will be some complications.
05:13
Because at the end of the day,
05:15
it is under a superstructure.
05:17
It is the Supreme Court.
05:18
Under that, they have created a new division
05:20
and a new bench.
05:21
Look at what is happening in England.
05:23
In England, there is a British High Court.
05:25
There is a Kings Bench Division,
05:27
a Chancellery Division,
05:28
and a Family Division.
05:30
Those cases have been shifted from one place to another.
05:32
Here, they have created these benches.
05:34
Now, to smoothen them,
05:36
if this system works, then it is fair enough.
05:39
If not, then in the future,
05:41
someone else will do it for them.
05:43
But one thing,
05:45
Mr. Qazi Faisal,
05:47
regarding him, I will definitely say
05:49
that he was very important
05:51
for the system,
05:53
and he had a lot of importance,
05:55
and he also knew about this.
05:57
And everyone wanted...
05:59
Yes?
06:00
No, no, no, no.
06:01
You start laughing.
06:02
I was saying, what is this system?
06:04
No, no, no.
06:05
You are...
06:06
No, no, no.
06:07
Listen.
06:08
No, no, no.
06:09
Sir, if you want to stop the program,
06:11
then it is a good thing.
06:13
I will tell you.
06:14
No, no, no.
06:15
Listen to me.
06:16
Everyone knows what this system is.
06:18
Yesterday, Mr. Wada said,
06:20
our people,
06:21
remember,
06:22
they are much more intelligent than us.
06:24
The Pakistani nation is not stupid.
06:26
Yes, that is right.
06:27
We think they are stupid.
06:29
We think we have fooled them.
06:31
No, sir.
06:32
They have repeatedly shown
06:34
how intelligent they are.
06:36
So, let's take a break.
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