" High Court Ke Judges Se Mutaliq Hum Ne Hukoomat Ko Jo Tajweez Di Hai Is Mein. .. " Bilawal Bhutto

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00:00Sir, can High Court judges be transferred?

00:03As far as the right to transfer is concerned,

00:06the recommendation we have given to the government

00:10is that they should have consent.

00:16The judge or the Chief Justice should have consent

00:22and this decision should not be the government's decision.

00:25This decision should be the Supreme Judicial Council

00:28or the body of the judges of the Parliament.

00:33This should not be the domain of any executive authority.

00:36Sir, he is saying that you are destroying the High Courts

00:38because you know that the judges of the High Courts have written the right.

00:41Yes, they have done this to the Supreme Courts.

00:43I have been in the case of the Constitutional People's Court for 50 years.

00:46Till date, in the case of the martyr Mortimer Benazir Bhutto,

00:48the police officers who did not find the traitor,

00:51that Aamir had to wait for his death,

00:54then the case against him was dismissed that he died.

00:58The police officers who washed away the crime scene,

01:01you have also freed them.

01:03The common man has no hope of justice from the High Courts,

01:06the Lower Courts and the Supreme Courts.

01:08We are going to destroy.

01:10They have destroyed. We are going to fix.

01:13Sir, the Parliament is also destroyed in the same way

01:15as a rubber stamp has been made.

01:18Your Minister of Law said that I did not see the controversy.

01:21Your Deputy Prime Minister said that I did not see the controversy.

01:23I did not see the controversy. I do not know where it came from.

01:25Yes, that was the rubber stamp.

01:28Before that, the way the Parliament was,

01:32when the Independent Parliament was legislating,

01:36it was the same Kashif Abbasi,

01:38it was the same Ayyarwai,

01:40that Panama, Xhosa,

01:43these were the champions of Istikhar Chaudhary.

01:48So, Kashif Abbasi, with apologies,

01:51today, when I hear the same objections from the same people,

01:55the way I have given importance to that objection in the past,

01:59now we have decided that with a lot of respect,

02:03we respect you,

02:05we can talk to you,

02:07we can engage with you.

02:08I believe that we can answer all your questions.

02:12But now, we have to do politics,

02:17like the courts have been doing,

02:19running their institutions,

02:21and other institutions have been running their institutions,

02:23and Parliamentary authority,

02:26and all other institutions have only curled except for Parliament.

02:30Ibtikhar Chaudhary,

02:32he was removed unilaterally,

02:35Aamir removed him,

02:37this will happen again,

02:38if I get a chance,

02:39I will still stand against that action.

02:42Even today, if someone is removed unilaterally,

02:45I will still stand against it.

02:47Sir, even if you are standing in favour of this unilateral action,

02:51I will still stand against it.

02:52Sir, if you are telling me to get people's properties which are undeclared,

02:57and I say that the balance is good,

02:58what should I do with that?

02:59You can bring the bills that you want to bring to Parliament,

03:02but the consensus in the judiciary,

03:05which has not been there since today,

03:07but has been there since 2004-2006,

03:11you can't say that 15 years,

03:14or 20 years is too fast.

03:17We are going to wait for 15-20 years,

03:24God willing, we will be successful.

03:26Sir, I will add one more thing,

03:27the argument you gave me in Panama,

03:29you said that the Sharif family was caught red-handed.

03:32I had a misunderstanding,

03:34that this case will be heard in the right way,

03:39which was right,

03:40but that also got ruined,

03:42because I had an interest in politics,

03:44I didn't have an interest in running the system of the court,

03:47and making the right decisions.

03:49If that case had gone in the right way,

03:52maybe the situation would have been different legally.

03:55But because it was that case,

03:58or it was Mr. Killani's case,

04:00politics was given importance,

04:02not the law and the constitution.

04:04Even in our case,

04:06even today,

04:07the case of our Sindh's fake accounts,

04:10the case of the FIA,

04:12is going on in Bindi.

04:14The Supreme Court has decided this.

04:17Sir, but the case is not that good,

04:18when the government itself said,

04:20that yes, my fake accounts…

04:21You can run it in Bindi,

04:22but how can you object,

04:24when the government says,

04:26that if you can put the case from one side to the other,

04:29then we want to put the judge from one side to the other.

04:31I am giving this suggestion to the government,

04:34and I am giving this suggestion to the government,

04:36that in this world,

04:38the executive does not have this power.

04:40We have this power with the Supreme Judicial Council,

04:43and with the judiciary,

04:45or with the Parliamentary Judicial Commission.

04:48Sir, can I ask one last question?

04:50I wanted to ask about the people who went to the Parliament,

04:53and the parliamentarians who were arrested.

04:55But I think your time is less.

04:57The way the Parliament was breached,

05:00and you said nothing in your speech.

05:02If the Parliament is going to be breached,

05:04like in 2014,

05:06if the Parliament is going to be breached,

05:08then that is the right way.

05:10You will give 24-hour coverage,

05:12you will clap,

05:13you will claim for the revolution.

05:15Sir, in the case of those who opposed the protest,

05:18the money that was taken,

05:19I got a 9th place list at that time.

05:21Whether we made a committee,

05:23or we said that we are all with you,

05:25then that is bad.

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