"Ham Ayesa Qanoon Nahi Banaye Gay Jo Qazi Faez Isa ki...." Bilawal Bhutto's Huge Statement

ARY NEWS

#bilawalbhutto #bilawalbhuttozardari #kashifabbasi #offtherecord #constitutionalamendment #breakingnews #PPP #fazalurrehman #pmshehbazsharif #judiciary #chiefjustice #qazifaezisa   "Ham Ayesa Qanoon Nahi Banaye Gay Jo Qazi Faez Isa ki...." Bilawal Bhutto's Huge Statement

Transcript

00:00Qazi Faisal Sahib has become the next Chief Justice. Do you have any objection to this?

00:05You should first make a Constitutional Court and then decide who will be the next Chief Justice.

00:10My objection is that...

00:12Sir, yesterday you said that Mansoor Ali Shah will be the next Chief Justice.

00:19Pakistan People's Party, person specific clauses, whether it is to remove a person or to appoint a person,

00:27we will not be in his favour.

00:29So, you will not be in the favour of Qazi Faisal Sahib?

00:32If you make it person specific in appointing or removing Qazi Faisal Sahib,

00:39the People's Party will not support it.

00:41Our starting point is that it will not be person specific.

00:44So, I will not make a law that only targets Qaizi Faiz Issa Sahib.

00:49And I will not make a law that only promotes Qaiz Faiz Issa Sahib.

00:56I want a law that can go on forever.

00:59Absolutely.

01:00A law that can get the people of this country justice as soon as possible.

01:04Right now, our Supreme Court gives 90% of its 15% cases, political and legal cases, to those cases.

01:13My grandfather got 50 years to get justice.

01:16Every citizen should not wait that long.

01:20This is my objective.

01:21Absolutely right.

01:22Sir, if the Parliament does this, if there are two or three institutions,

01:26they should be rectified.

01:27Absolutely.

01:28And all these nations will be happy.

01:30In fact, they will pray that whoever rectifies these institutions,

01:34takes the authority from the establishment to run the rest of the country.

01:38Tell the court to do its own job.

01:40Give justice to the people instead of interfering in politics.

01:43But tell me, sir, the statement you gave yesterday that Mansoor Ali Shah will be the Chief Justice.

01:47What will he be the Chief Justice of?

01:49Will he be the Chief Justice of the Indian Court or the Chief Justice of another court?

01:52That decision is for later.

01:56In that context, whether he becomes the Chief Justice of the Constitutional Court or the Supreme Court,

02:01he will be the Chief Justice.

02:05Sir, this is the problem here.

02:06But this is the problem for the people who are person-specific.

02:10No, no, but he is next in line.

02:12I raised this in front of Maulana Fazl Rahman in that committee.

02:16Look, people are saying that the government is partisan.

02:19People are saying that the PTI is partisan.

02:22What does the People's Party have to do with the JUI?

02:25Our job is to do justice.

02:28This is an old demand of mine and yours.

02:30So if we come up with a version that is not person-specific,

02:35then maybe we can move it forward.

02:38But I am committed to getting my mother's promises implemented.

02:43And I will engage with Maulana Fazl Rahman in his party,

02:48despite the statements in bad taste that were given by his official representative.

02:53And I will continue my all-out efforts to ensure that we meet the numbers

02:58to try and pass the best possible legislation to bring about judicial reform in this country

03:05that has not only affected me as a person and my family,

03:08but if you take a survey of any place,

03:11if you ask the public, if you ask lawyers,

03:15if you ask your media colleagues,

03:17if you ask politicians,

03:19no one can deny the fact that judicial reform should take place.

03:2380% of people cannot deny the fact that the INE court should be formed.

03:30If there is any objection, it is that the timing is not right, the method is not right.

03:36So my answer to that is only this,

03:39if not now, then when?

03:41But Mr. Bilawal, the way you spoke,

03:43you said that the objection is on the method.

03:45You also spoke about the right of the parliamentarians.

03:47What right does a parliamentarian have?

03:49Even at midnight, the parliamentarians did not know

03:52which thumbprint to put on which issue.

03:54If Maulana had agreed that day,

03:56then the legislation would have been done by now.

03:58No one knew, sir.

04:00No one knows what the issue is.

04:02It is not the right of the two courts to sit at midnight.

04:08It is only their right to come and break the law.

04:14It is only their right to sit at midnight

04:17and tell Amir to come and rule for 10-11 years.

04:22If any parliamentarian by mistake,

04:25although we say that politicians do not work,

04:29I think it is a very good thing that we worked hard.

04:35If we try to address every issue with this hard work,

04:39then maybe there will be more progress.

04:41This is the problem.

04:42Because we have never seen this parliament sitting at 12 o'clock,

04:44except when you get some political benefit.

04:47So I was sitting in this parliament at the time of the meeting.

04:50Political benefit.

04:51If there is political benefit, then you will sit at 12 o'clock too.

04:53That is why the way you are doing it,

04:55the way you are doing it,

04:57the way you have done the 18th amendment,

05:00how much praise do you get for the 18th amendment?

05:02It took 8 months.

05:03Everyone's consensus was built.

05:05People were asking each other on TV,

05:08where are Musabdeh?

05:09Should I talk to Noonwals?

05:10They said, sir, we do not know what is happening.

05:12We have only been told to wait.

05:13Whatever Musabdeh comes,

05:14there will be a meeting at 12 o'clock,

05:16put your thumb up and go home.

05:17There is no need for you to find out what is going to happen,

05:19what is written in it.

05:20That is why it seems that this is a person-specific amendment.

05:23This is being done for personal benefit,

05:25for political benefit.

05:27Sir,

05:28I can't,

05:29I can't talk about anyone else's intentions,

05:32but I don't see a personal benefit or political benefit in it

05:37that I succeed in it.

05:39As far as my 70 votes are concerned,

05:41and my hard work day and night,

05:43that is because I have to fulfill my mother's dream.

05:47What is the intention of Maulana Fazl Rehman Sahib that he is supporting it?

05:51Or what is the intention of Mian Nawaz Sharif and Mian Shabaz Sharif that he is supporting it?

05:56I have nothing to do with it.

05:59I have nothing to do with the fact that I have to show my Mansoor.

06:04As far as you are concerned,

06:06the way we did the 18th amendment,

06:11you are absolutely right.

06:13We spent a year discussing the 18th amendment.

06:16All parties,

06:17not only the government parties,

06:18every single party was part of that process.

06:21What did the Supreme Court say when they heard about the 18th amendment?

06:25They said,

06:26what kind of time is this?

06:27You got a committee to pass this.

06:30When we got a majority of three-thirds,

06:33what did the Supreme Court say?

06:35That we will pass a complete amendment.

06:37So now,

06:38whether I do it with three-thirds or two-thirds,

06:41I have to do it.

06:43And twice bitten,

06:45I mean,

06:46once bitten twice.

06:47You have seen what they did with the 19th amendment.

06:49You have seen what they made us go through

06:51when we legislated more reforms in the judiciary

06:54every single time.

Category

Transcript

Recommended