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Aj Raat Ahem Tareen Mulaqat...? Murtaza Wahab's Reveals Everything
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9/27/2024
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Aj Raat Ahem Tareen Mulaqat...? Murtaza Wahab's Reveals Everything
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00:00
I have heard that you have an important meeting and some things are going to be decided in this important meeting.
00:06
Please tell us something about it.
00:08
As all of you know, in our last meeting with Maulana Fazlur Rehman,
00:15
the decision was that both political parties will work on their own drafts
00:21
and then the political leaders can sit and finalize that draft.
00:25
So, tonight we will meet Maulana Fazlur Rehman's team
00:31
and we will share the draft with our friends.
00:36
Mr. Murtaza, what will be the discussion at this time?
00:41
On one hand, it is being said that Maulana Fazlur Rehman agrees with the Constitutional Court.
00:47
He has no problem with that.
00:49
But he does not agree with the extension of judges.
00:54
Further, what are the things on which he has agreed?
00:57
We will discuss that and get it in a clean and neat form.
01:02
We will get to know about his reservations, observations and submissions after the meeting.
01:11
But I am glad you have highlighted that the people's party's perspective,
01:15
Mr. Bilawal's perspective from day one is regarding the creation of Constitutional Courts.
01:21
And you yourself have said that Maulana Fazlur Rehman agrees with this opinion.
01:27
He has no objection to this in principle.
01:30
So, I think the larger perspective is the understanding of the political leaders,
01:37
how to shape it up, how it will be written, what will be written,
01:43
those things are yet to be decided.
01:46
Senator Humayun Mohammad has joined me in the program.
01:51
He was saying that if a Constitutional Court is formed and there is a Supreme Court on one side
01:56
and there is a general question of PTI on the other side,
01:58
then it will happen simultaneously.
02:00
Then there will be a conflict.
02:01
If there is a conflict, then the questions on the judicial system will be raised more.
02:06
Because a tug of war will start between the two sides.
02:08
Instead of Parliament vs. Supreme Court, it will be Constitutional Court vs. Supreme Court.
02:12
Is this what he is seeing?
02:14
See, those who breed on conflict,
02:17
they always try to raise the status quo of conflict on everything.
02:23
Unfortunately, you have seen that if you look at the past of PTI,
02:28
I would like to say with great respect that they try to spread the same controversy,
02:35
when they are in opposition and when they come to power unfortunately,
02:39
even then their views and thoughts do not change.
02:44
I believe and I think every Pakistani should believe that
02:48
whatever the institution is, it has to operate according to the law.
02:52
According to the law, it is the right of the Parliament to legislate.
02:58
And it is the right and duty of the respected courts
03:02
that the implementation of the law passed by the parliamentarians,
03:09
the decisions of the cases on it, it is necessary to do that.
03:13
So there is no personal fight here.
03:16
We are trying to reform.
03:18
We are trying to make the system easier.
03:20
Everyone in this country agrees that the system needs to be reformed.
03:27
Now, who will bell the cat?
03:29
There is always this unfortunate thing that happens in the government
03:33
or the one who is trying to do something of responsibility.
03:37
There is always some other factor that tries to stop those people.
03:42
I think the need is that the parliamentarians,
03:46
while acting responsibly, this is a major issue in this country.
03:50
It is necessary to address it in terms of justice, in terms of justice.
03:56
And because the parliament is initiating it,
04:00
I hope that by solving these issues politically,
04:05
we will pass such a law that will be in line with the dignity of the court.
04:13
And a common man's right to cheap and standard foreign justice,
04:17
he will also get that.
04:19
Okay, tell us about 63A.
04:21
First of all, is there going to be a constitutional exchange?
04:24
Is there a constitutional or working paper from the Pakistan People's Party?
04:28
And from the JUI, do you expect that there will be a working paper?
04:32
And in this, is the amendment in Article 63A included?
04:37
Look, Anika, because the People's Party has a proposal
04:42
in relation to the Constitutional Court.
04:44
We have been working on the Constitutional Court for several weeks now.
04:49
And we have the resources to take it forward.
04:55
I am sure the JUI has also prepared for it.
04:59
And today we will be able to sit down and take that matter forward.
05:04
As far as 63A is concerned, there are three or four things in it.
05:09
I believe that when 63A was introduced in the 18th amendment,
05:16
it was stated that if you do not follow the party line in three situations,
05:23
be it the Finance Act, the Constitutional Amendment and the Vote of Confidence,
05:27
if you do not follow your party policy in these three situations,
05:31
you will be punished in the form of being de-seated.
05:35
In the case of the Punjab Assembly, unfortunately,
05:39
the Supreme Court has changed the words of 63A.
05:47
And they have decided that not only will he be punished,
05:53
but his vote will not be counted.
05:56
That is, they have inserted a clause into the Constitution,
06:00
which I believe, according to Article 238,
06:04
Now, it is not the right of any judge to amend the Constitution or change the words of the Constitution.
06:11
This right, this obligation, is purely and exclusively of the parliament of Pakistan.
06:17
And if they have done such a thing,
06:20
the judges have two ways to correct it in their wisdom.
06:25
Either you modify it in the Constitution with two-thirds majority,
06:29
so that you can address that thing.
06:32
Or you can address that matter through a second opinion.
06:36
So, I believe, the government is considering both options.
06:40
Perhaps, on 30th, the second opinion has also been fixed in the Supreme Court.
06:45
Mr. Pratibha, I have heard that even without the JUI,
06:50
the votes have been counted in the National Assembly. Is that correct?
06:55
Look, you have a better response than the government.
07:00
How can the government function without you, Mr. Pratibha?
07:03
I am not a part of the government, nor is my political party a part of the government.
07:07
You can ask this to the parliamentary ministers.
07:10
But I am fairly confident that when the government is working on these things,
07:16
then their work has already been done and the numbers are available.
07:18
And we are also very hopeful, because Maulana Sahib has spoken very positively,
07:23
because he agrees with this conceptually.
07:26
We are very hopeful that Maulana Sahib will also support this.
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