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'Turning point': Israelis strike and protest to demand Gaza hostage deal
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9/2/2024
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We're going to talk more about the situation today in Israel with our Jerusalem correspondent
00:03
Iris Mackler, who joins me now live.
00:05
Iris, first of all, what's the significance of this strike and these protests?
00:10
Tell us a bit more about this court decision ordering an end to the strike today.
00:14
That's right.
00:15
The court has ordered the strike to end half an hour ago.
00:18
I just came here to see what the situation is in this street, and everything remains
00:22
closed despite that court order, except the church, of course, whose doors are still open
00:27
behind me.
00:28
But I think people will be slowly going back to work as a result of that court order.
00:32
I think the significance of the strike and of the protests is that they show us the level
00:39
– something has changed for the Israeli public.
00:42
We haven't seen a strike, and we haven't seen protests of this size, hundreds of thousands
00:47
on the streets last night, and it was, in a sense, spontaneous, and it was a response
00:52
to the news that the six hostages had been found dead.
00:56
And I think what you're seeing is a turning point for the public.
01:00
You know, will it be a turning point for the politicians?
01:02
We have to yet see.
01:03
But the public, I think, was horrified because the autopsies showed that these six were killed,
01:09
executed basically, being shot in the head at close range, and also because of the notion
01:15
that four of the six had the possibility – at least three of the six, but maybe even four
01:20
of the six – would have been in the first phase of a negotiated hostage release and
01:26
ceasefire deal.
01:27
They would have been released.
01:28
Now, let's just go back over those dates.
01:30
A proposal was put forward in April, Israel put forward a proposal in May, it was adopted
01:35
by Joe Biden and the UN Security Council, Hamas agreed to it in July, and nevertheless
01:40
there is no deal.
01:43
And that, and the fact that in the past two weeks, 13 hostages have been rescued.
01:49
That is one rescued alive, 12 returned in body bags.
01:53
And those numbers are terrifying for the Israeli public, for the relatives of the hostages.
01:57
And I guess what the public is saying now to their politicians is, we want this return
02:03
of hostages to be prioritised, it's important to us, and, you know, we want you, the government,
02:11
to act on that.
02:12
Joe Biden, the US president, said that Hamas pulled the trigger and is plainly to blame
02:18
for the death of these six hostages.
02:21
I guess what the Israeli public is asking is what role did its own government play?
02:25
Indeed.
02:26
And as you say, this could really be a turning point for the public in Israel.
02:30
But what about the politicians?
02:31
And crucially, what about for Benjamin Netanyahu himself?
02:34
Could this be a turning point for them?
02:37
We don't know the answer to that.
02:39
You know, they've been holding pretty steadfast to the line, Benjamin Netanyahu's line and
02:43
his right-wing allies as well, that you don't reward Hamas, who's just killed six hostages,
02:50
by doing a deal with them, that kind of talk, that these actions during a time of war, these
02:57
protests, this strike, it's highly unusual, it's damaging for the public, they call for
03:02
it to stop.
03:03
But the public is calling on them to act.
03:05
And I think you're seeing that rift perhaps for the first time.
03:08
It's been a long war, a long, hard war for the people of Gaza, certainly, but for the
03:13
people of Israel as well.
03:14
We're also seeing an escalation of the border with Lebanon in the West Bank, certainly within
03:20
the last six weeks.
03:22
And I guess what's being asked here is, is this government carrying out something that
03:26
is strategically successful for the state of Israel?
03:30
And there are many military, former military, serving military leaders, security service
03:36
leaders who are beginning to question that, as well as the public.
03:41
Iris, thanks so much for that.
03:42
That's the France 24's Jerusalem correspondent, Iris Maclare.
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