Campbell & Holmes Can Still Agree To Disagree

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00:00Alright Gator, with Gator being back today, I want to get your thoughts on the Lions final

00:0753-man roster and surprises with the practice squad.

00:11So the surprises on the 53-man roster were the Strickland kid, the safety making it,

00:18was Parker Hess making it over Zylstra and Mitchell, was Hendon Hooker making it over

00:25Nate Sudfeld after what was said last week, and then Jake Fromm making the practice squad

00:30over Nate Sudfeld.

00:31What do you make of the final roster?

00:35I like it because everybody you were kind of disappointed about, they didn't make the

00:41team, they made the practice squad.

00:44Somehow Draft Ninja, Brad Holmes, became Roster Ninja and Roster Jedi, because convinced you

00:53don't need any of our players.

00:56And I'm totally surprised by that.

00:58So I think it's going to be a fluid situation with players that are on the practice squad,

01:04they might have an opportunity to make the big, they're going to be injuries anyway.

01:09So I'm not going to lie though, I'm surprised at some of those moves where the players got

01:15in over other players.

01:17How about them having four wide receivers on the practice squad?

01:21And Brad Holmes said, we weren't going to give out a fifth spot just to have a fifth

01:24wide receiver.

01:26But it feels to me like they're still kind of searching for another wide receiver.

01:32When you bring in Alan Robinson, you bring in Tim Patrick, you bring back Donovan Peoples-Jones,

01:39and you bring back Tom Kennedy as one does every year.

01:45What do you make of that four wide receivers on the practice squad?

01:48I think it's internal competition again.

01:52We didn't really resolve things with the preseason and training camp.

01:56So we need you guys to come out there and show what you can.

02:02The practice squad guys are going to be scout team guys, they're going to get reps against

02:05some pretty good players, and they're going to have opportunities each and every day to

02:10prove themselves.

02:11So if I were one of those wide receivers, I would take it as such, hey, all right, you

02:16got to go out there and prove it.

02:18Because I don't think they're married to the final guys that made the roster.

02:23No, no, the bottom three, four spots on that roster are going to be rotating.

02:28And then there's always injuries.

02:29You just never know how that's going to play itself out.

02:32The Jake Fromm thing is interesting.

02:35Yeah.

02:37I said this yesterday, and then Kang had found a soundbite from Brad Holmes that kind of

02:41confirmed it.

02:43Brad Holmes talked about how much he liked him out of Georgia.

02:46And I'm like, this is a guy he was eyeing to draft.

02:49It's one of those, I finally got my hands on this guy.

02:51He really wanted to draft him.

02:53And when you heard him talk, he had a lot of praise for him.

03:00Pretty complimentary, if you will, on him coming out of Georgia.

03:05But has your faith been shaken a little bit, Doug?

03:08And Kang.

03:09I mean, this was the guy.

03:11We all believe what they have to say, right?

03:14Upper hand.

03:15Yeah.

03:16Nate Sutfeld has the upper hand, and yet Nate Sutfeld's not on the roster and not on the

03:21practice squad.

03:24Was there some hoodwinking going on?

03:25This is in reference to something that I have said and Kang has also come on board with,

03:30which is, I believe absolutely everything that Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell have said.

03:33I've spent my entire professional career being skeptical of everything that came out of the

03:38Detroit Lions.

03:39And when you heard hype, I'm like, I'll believe it when I see it, too.

03:42There was always that undercurrent of, I'll believe it when I see it.

03:48And now I'm like, I just believe it.

03:51So last week, yes, Dan Campbell said Nate Sutfeld has the upper hand.

03:57A week later, he not only didn't have the upper hand, two quarterbacks passed him and

04:01he got straight up released.

04:04And so Gator is asking, is our faith rattled, Kang, in Dan Campbell?

04:10Gator, Dan Campbell lied to us.

04:13Oh boy.

04:14He lied to us, Doug.

04:15Just accept it.

04:17I'm back on board with Gator.

04:19Campbell was talking all this jive, you know, this camp talk, you know, that they all do.

04:23It was just coach speak.

04:24That's all.

04:25Coach speak.

04:26Yup.

04:27It's okay.

04:28Dude, how do you go from upper hand till you got fired on your day off?

04:30They sat him the final preseason game thinking, you're good, bro.

04:33Don't worry.

04:34You ain't got nothing else to prove.

04:35We've seen what you have to offer.

04:38From comes in for four snaps.

04:40All right.

04:41Well, you know, things have changed, my friend.

04:43I'm sorry.

04:44And not only did he get passed over by Hendon Hooker, but from?

04:50Let's be clear here.

04:53Dan Campbell didn't cut Nate Sudfeld.

04:57Brad Holmes cut Nate Sudfeld.

04:58Oh, you saying they're fighting?

04:59No.

05:00It's NBD.

05:01No big deal.

05:02No big deal.

05:03NBD.

05:04They share the same brain, Doug.

05:08Yeah.

05:09I mean.

05:10Not on everything.

05:11I think Dan Campbell has a big say in who gets cut.

05:14I think he does have a big say.

05:15No, but I mean, all honesty, anybody surprised really in the end that Nate Sudfeld isn't

05:22here?

05:23I mean, we were surprised he had the upper hand.

05:24Yeah, exactly.

05:25That's what we were surprised about.

05:26Yeah.

05:27That was like, upper hand, huh?

05:30Okay.

05:31Maybe you're seeing something I haven't seen.

05:32Okay.

05:33He's going against tougher competition.

05:34He's in the beginning of games as opposed to later on, like when, when we see Hendon

05:38Hooker.

05:39Okay.

05:40And then he had the last preseason game and Hendon Hooker.

05:41He was okay.

05:42He was better.

05:43It may be better than okay.

05:44He obviously makes plays with his feet and pretty heady player.

05:47Really like Hendon Hooker.

05:48Did he pass Nate Sudfeld?

05:50Apparently so.

05:52Nate Sudfeld, the reason he was still even in contention, I feel is that maybe this coaching

06:00staff just, they like him for a calming influence he might have with Jared Goff or, or because

06:05he can see plays and what, what is supposed to happen.

06:08The problem with Nate Sudfeld is that he doesn't have the talent to make them happen.

06:13You know, it's like the old adage, those who can do those who can't teach.

06:17And some people take that as an insult and I wouldn't take that as an insult at all.

06:21Right.

06:22What it is, and one of the most important life lessons that you can have is knowing

06:27what your limitations are.

06:29Like if you know the playbook, you know what they're supposed to happen.

06:31We'll just go out and do it.

06:32I physically can't.

06:33I'm not fast enough to move to the outside or maneuver through the pocket to buy myself

06:37time.

06:38I can't do that, but I know that that's the route to do it.

06:41Or maybe I just don't have the arm strength to make that play, but that play is there

06:45and I'm telling you, you can do it.

06:47I mean, I feel like that's what Nate Sudfeld is.

06:49He's like an extra coach and don't be surprised if you hear that he's added to a coaching

06:54staff in years down the line.

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