Karachi ke khule huay gutter yah maut ke kuwayn?
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00:00Deputy Mayor of Karachi, Salman Abdullah Basab, and this is his interview as well, so let us talk to him about what this is all about.
00:07Mr. Salman, we were talking to you last night as well.
00:09At that time, you were probably going to the same area, and of course, you had reached there as well.
00:13What further details have you found out about this incident?
00:17Initially, you were saying that there is a private society where this incident took place, and it was their responsibility.
00:22So, what has been done so far on this incident?
00:26Yes, the unfortunate incident that took place yesterday in Memangot,
00:31there was a private society there,
00:35and there was a fence placed on top of the well.
00:44So, due to the increase in the crowd there,
00:47more people came on top of the cover of the well,
00:52and the children also ate their food there.
00:56So, due to the increase in the crowd, the cover of the well broke, and five children fell on it.
01:01So, as soon as we got the information, I also reached there on the spot.
01:05Two children were seriously injured, three of whom were taken to the hospital.
01:12Sir, please tell us one thing,
01:14either there is no cover on the well,
01:17and if it was here, what material was it made of that it broke?
01:21I mean, it weighs a lot.
01:24Trucks pass through it, cars pass through it, so it doesn't break.
01:27What will be the weight of the small children when the children stand on it?
01:33See, this was a private society.
01:36This is the work of a builder, when he launches a society,
01:41it is his responsibility.
01:43No, Mr. Salman, we were talking about this last night as well.
01:46It is the work of a builder.
01:48It is his responsibility to do the charges.
01:50No, but there is a regulator for these societies, right?
01:55Someone controls them,
01:57that if people are shifting here, then NOCs are issued for them.
02:00It is done by the government, right?
02:02So, who is responsible for this?
02:03The Indian government is responsible,
02:04your municipality is responsible.
02:06Yes, it is the work of the municipality.
02:08Who is responsible for this?
02:11See, we told the Deputy Commissioner yesterday
02:18that you should enquire about this.
02:20The housing project that has been launched,
02:25it is their responsibility to cover it.
02:29Before you start any project,
02:32you have to take NOC from all departments.
02:35This is what we are talking about.
02:36So, they may not have completed this procedure.
02:40So, we say that this is a regrettable incident.
02:44This is a case of negligence.
02:46This is criminal negligence.
02:47There, it is the responsibility of the builder
02:52to improve the infrastructure there,
02:55to provide severage.
02:57Suppose, Mr. Salman,
02:58the builder used a defective material.
03:01What will happen now?
03:02The builder used a defective material,
03:03but how important is it to keep a check and balance on it?
03:06Plus, when we say that the municipal governments are important,
03:09it means that the authorities will go to the lower level
03:13and the local council keeps an eye on all these things.
03:16You just remove a little roof outside your house,
03:19the SBCA people come there immediately.
03:21So, when this building is being built here,
03:23who is responsible for getting check and balance, NOC on it?
03:26This is what we are asking you.
03:30Look, we have just told the Deputy Commissioner yesterday
03:35and he has also made a committee
03:37and he will proceed on it.
03:39And whatever happens on it, action will be taken on it.
03:42The one who will be responsible,
03:43the one who has done negligence,
03:45action will be taken against him.
03:47You must know who is responsible for this.
03:50No, the committee has just been formed.
03:52No, who is watching this?
03:54We have established a committee.
03:55We have established a committee with the Deputy Commissioner yesterday
03:58and he will enquire and present facts and figures to you.
04:01In how many days? Have you given a time frame?
04:02Whoever has done negligence, action will be taken against him.
04:06Mr. Salman, have you given a time frame to the committee
04:08that you have to give a report in so many days?
04:11Yes, we will start working from today.
04:16The Deputy Commissioner has made a committee
04:19on the assistance of the Commissioner,
04:21the Chief Executive Officer and the local SHOs.
04:24We will present facts and figures on it.
04:26Whatever happens on it, action will be taken against it.
04:29Apart from this, let's look at the year 2023.
04:32You were also giving a reference to the year 2023,
04:34that an incident took place here.
04:36The number was 68 in the year 2023
04:39and now it has come down to 13 or 14 in this year.
04:42This is a problem for everyone.
04:44Whether it is a matter of stray dogs,
04:46or a matter of gutters,
04:48it is obvious that it is a problem.
04:51The people of Karachi want to get rid of this
04:54so that their lives are safe.
04:56This is a big problem.
04:58Is this a matter of concern for the local government?
05:01Is the Mayor keeping an eye on this?
05:03Do you have an eye on this?
05:05Are these open gutters causing problems?
05:12Yes, the Mayor is focused on this.
05:15We have made teams on this.
05:18We have also asked our opposition leaders,
05:21whether they are members of the Jamaat or BTI,
05:24to come together for the development of the city.
05:27The more hard work we have been given in this city,
05:30the more responsibility we have.
05:32Serving this city,
05:34bringing life to this city,
05:36this city has gone through a lot.
05:38We have to end this hatred and hatred politics
05:41and turn to constructive politics.
05:43Sir, I have a question for you.
05:45This is not a K4 project,
05:47which will take years to complete.
05:49People's lives are at risk here.
05:51Ashfaq has just quoted the number of people who have died in 2023.
05:54How many children have died in the last seven months?
05:57How many people have died?
05:59We want to know from you
06:01what reports do you receive?
06:03What reports do your councillors and chairmen give?
06:06Look at this area.
06:08The gutter is separate.
06:10There is water here.
06:12I am sure that those children
06:14will pass through the gutter
06:16because they feel it is a support.
06:18What complaints do you receive?
06:20What is not there and what is needed?
06:23Our UC's chairmen,
06:25when they are elected,
06:27whatever complaints they bring to us,
06:29whether it is about the main road cover,
06:31the water saverage,
06:33or the roads,
06:35we listen to them.
06:37At the same time,
06:39we give them a call.
06:41Do you have any numbers?
06:43How many complaints have you received?
06:45How much work have you done on this?
06:47Is it correct?
06:49Look,
06:51almost all of our UC's chairmen,
06:55on a daily basis,
06:57they come to us
06:59and whatever complaints they have
07:01about their area or UC's,
07:03whether it is on the level of KMC,
07:05or the water board,
07:07or about the main road cover,
07:09they come to us and tell us.
07:11They tell us and we work on it.
07:13They have their own...
07:15Tell me something basic.
07:17They have their own...
07:19What is the number at the moment?
07:21How many gutters are there
07:23in different areas of the city
07:25where you operate
07:27where there is no cover on the gutter?
07:29The second issue is
07:31that if this cover...
07:33As Mr. Bharat said,
07:35we will act against the garbage collectors
07:37who sell their waste there.
07:39We will catch the drug addicts
07:41who pick up the covers of the gutters.
07:43So, we are trying to investigate
07:45how many numbers are there.
07:47Because you will be able to supply
07:49the covers of the gutters
07:51only if you know
07:53how many numbers are missing.
07:57Last time,
07:59when the manual covers
08:01were closed to all UC chairmen
08:03in the water board factory,
08:05which was restarted by Mr. Murtaza Wahab,
08:07we distributed
08:09around 12,500 manual covers
08:11to all UC chairmen.
08:13So, we are working on it
08:15in a routine manner.
08:17It is not like...
08:19Can you tell us
08:21about their quality?
08:23Because their quality is also
08:25better than the quality
08:27in many areas.
08:29Their quality is better
08:31and let me tell you
08:33that if you distribute the manual covers
08:35to all UC chairmen,
08:37then they will be able
08:39to sell their waste
08:41again.
08:43This happened
08:45last time in Lemangot.
08:47The next day,
08:49the same people
08:51who try to damage
08:53the infrastructure
08:55were handed over to the police.
08:57So, I request you
08:59if you see
09:01anything like this,
09:03inform the government
09:05or the police
09:07so that there is no loss.
09:09Institutions do their work
09:11and leave.
09:13Can you give a number
09:15so that people can contact you
09:17and inform you?
09:19There is a helpline number
09:2111128.
09:23Our helpline number
09:25is 11128.
09:27Can they contact you?
09:29Absolutely.
09:31We note it down
09:33and implement it.
09:35You mentioned 11128.
09:37Yes.
09:39If you don't have
09:41any gutter cover in your area,
09:43call us.
09:45If you don't receive a call,
09:47contact us
09:49and tell us
09:51what is the problem in your area.
09:53It can be solved collectively.
09:55It is a social issue.
09:57Thank you so much, Salman Abdullah Murad.
09:59You answered our questions
10:01very patiently.